How...?!? This is really overwhelming.

SARAHSARAH253

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Don't have any tips to offer. But I just wanted to tell you I will keep Emily in my prayers. Stay Strong!! BIG HUGS!
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<br />Love,
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<br />Sarh
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<br />Mommy to Johnny 3 1/2 w/cf and Bailey 1 1/2 nocf
 

biz

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Hi, Harriett. im so sorry you are having a hard time. weve dont two picc lines with Aidan with home meds. we spend a night in hospital then go home and do meds for two weeks. we always have the bubbles that hold the meds. it is so much easier. what ive learned from my experience is when were in hospital and they are getting ready finally to start meds i make sure the time frame is whats best for our schedule at home. meaning the first time we did two meds every eight hour. then the second picc line we had two meds one every six hour and the second every eight hours. so its best to plan with the nurse on when they start them so ur not doing it at 3am.

i was more exhausted the second time with the picc line. because they werent at the same time. the only time that he got them one after the other was his last course at night. somehow we figured that out so i didnt have to wait in between them at night. however it took over and hour to complete. so since the bubbles usually take 30- 45 mins each i would set my alarm on my phone and nap between bubbles. i was a zombie then next day more then at night. somehow u push thru and make it. and by day 5 i usually see results in Aidan so thats always a comfort. maybe you can suggest to do the rest in the hospital. i dont knw if thats possible with your other children, but give it some thought. my clinic told me the first time we did home meds if i couldnt handle it they would take us in. ill be thinking bout you and let us knw how ur doing when you get the time...lol...right!!!!!!
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Elizabeth
mama to Aidan 5 w/cf
 

biz

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Hi, Harriett. im so sorry you are having a hard time. weve dont two picc lines with Aidan with home meds. we spend a night in hospital then go home and do meds for two weeks. we always have the bubbles that hold the meds. it is so much easier. what ive learned from my experience is when were in hospital and they are getting ready finally to start meds i make sure the time frame is whats best for our schedule at home. meaning the first time we did two meds every eight hour. then the second picc line we had two meds one every six hour and the second every eight hours. so its best to plan with the nurse on when they start them so ur not doing it at 3am.

i was more exhausted the second time with the picc line. because they werent at the same time. the only time that he got them one after the other was his last course at night. somehow we figured that out so i didnt have to wait in between them at night. however it took over and hour to complete. so since the bubbles usually take 30- 45 mins each i would set my alarm on my phone and nap between bubbles. i was a zombie then next day more then at night. somehow u push thru and make it. and by day 5 i usually see results in Aidan so thats always a comfort. maybe you can suggest to do the rest in the hospital. i dont knw if thats possible with your other children, but give it some thought. my clinic told me the first time we did home meds if i couldnt handle it they would take us in. ill be thinking bout you and let us knw how ur doing when you get the time...lol...right!!!!!!
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Elizabeth
mama to Aidan 5 w/cf
 

biz

New member
Hi, Harriett. im so sorry you are having a hard time. weve dont two picc lines with Aidan with home meds. we spend a night in hospital then go home and do meds for two weeks. we always have the bubbles that hold the meds. it is so much easier. what ive learned from my experience is when were in hospital and they are getting ready finally to start meds i make sure the time frame is whats best for our schedule at home. meaning the first time we did two meds every eight hour. then the second picc line we had two meds one every six hour and the second every eight hours. so its best to plan with the nurse on when they start them so ur not doing it at 3am.
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<br />i was more exhausted the second time with the picc line. because they werent at the same time. the only time that he got them one after the other was his last course at night. somehow we figured that out so i didnt have to wait in between them at night. however it took over and hour to complete. so since the bubbles usually take 30- 45 mins each i would set my alarm on my phone and nap between bubbles. i was a zombie then next day more then at night. somehow u push thru and make it. and by day 5 i usually see results in Aidan so thats always a comfort. maybe you can suggest to do the rest in the hospital. i dont knw if thats possible with your other children, but give it some thought. my clinic told me the first time we did home meds if i couldnt handle it they would take us in. ill be thinking bout you and let us knw how ur doing when you get the time...lol...right!!!!!!
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<br />Elizabeth
<br />mama to Aidan 5 w/cf
 

zoe4life

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Harriett,
Hi sweetie! Yep, first time on home iv's can seem VERY overwhelming. Especially with 2-3 antibiotics infusing.Are you having to wait in between infusions? Sometimes....a med (for instance, Timentin) has play room. It will say infuse ever 8 hours....BUT what sometimes they fail to tell you is...it can be as close as 6 hours if needed or farther apart... as LONG as you get 3 doses in at seperate times in 24 hours. Ask your home health nurse about your drugs to see if that is possible.
Another thought...how bad would it affect her if she didn't do so many feedings? If it didn't affect her...it seems to me, it would be ok to decrease the ones that are affecting everyones sleep just while she is on iv's.
Our hosptial sends Zoe home on 3 breathing treatments/cpt a day after hospital. Maybe that is an option also for you....
Hope things get a little less crazy for you and that Emily will be feeling better real soon!!<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">
Hugs!
 

zoe4life

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Harriett,
Hi sweetie! Yep, first time on home iv's can seem VERY overwhelming. Especially with 2-3 antibiotics infusing.Are you having to wait in between infusions? Sometimes....a med (for instance, Timentin) has play room. It will say infuse ever 8 hours....BUT what sometimes they fail to tell you is...it can be as close as 6 hours if needed or farther apart... as LONG as you get 3 doses in at seperate times in 24 hours. Ask your home health nurse about your drugs to see if that is possible.
Another thought...how bad would it affect her if she didn't do so many feedings? If it didn't affect her...it seems to me, it would be ok to decrease the ones that are affecting everyones sleep just while she is on iv's.
Our hosptial sends Zoe home on 3 breathing treatments/cpt a day after hospital. Maybe that is an option also for you....
Hope things get a little less crazy for you and that Emily will be feeling better real soon!!<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">
Hugs!
 

zoe4life

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Harriett,
<br />Hi sweetie! Yep, first time on home iv's can seem VERY overwhelming. Especially with 2-3 antibiotics infusing.Are you having to wait in between infusions? Sometimes....a med (for instance, Timentin) has play room. It will say infuse ever 8 hours....BUT what sometimes they fail to tell you is...it can be as close as 6 hours if needed or farther apart... as LONG as you get 3 doses in at seperate times in 24 hours. Ask your home health nurse about your drugs to see if that is possible.
<br />Another thought...how bad would it affect her if she didn't do so many feedings? If it didn't affect her...it seems to me, it would be ok to decrease the ones that are affecting everyones sleep just while she is on iv's.
<br />Our hosptial sends Zoe home on 3 breathing treatments/cpt a day after hospital. Maybe that is an option also for you....
<br />Hope things get a little less crazy for you and that Emily will be feeling better real soon!!<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">
<br />Hugs!
 

SIcklyhatED

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This wont answer your question, but I just thought I'd comment.

It would be great if you could use this situation as a learning oportunity for your daughter. You know, start to show her the ropes and teach her a little about home IVs and whatnot (though not too sure how much a young girl would exactly absorb..) That way when she's older and if she ahs to do more home IV's she'll know what to do right away.
I was on home IV's for the first time this past December and after about 2 days I basically ran the whole thing myself (granted I was 17, but still, you get the point). It defiantly took a work load off of my parents.

Keep a positive face on this and you'll do fine <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">
 

SIcklyhatED

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This wont answer your question, but I just thought I'd comment.

It would be great if you could use this situation as a learning oportunity for your daughter. You know, start to show her the ropes and teach her a little about home IVs and whatnot (though not too sure how much a young girl would exactly absorb..) That way when she's older and if she ahs to do more home IV's she'll know what to do right away.
I was on home IV's for the first time this past December and after about 2 days I basically ran the whole thing myself (granted I was 17, but still, you get the point). It defiantly took a work load off of my parents.

Keep a positive face on this and you'll do fine <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">
 

SIcklyhatED

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This wont answer your question, but I just thought I'd comment.
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<br />It would be great if you could use this situation as a learning oportunity for your daughter. You know, start to show her the ropes and teach her a little about home IVs and whatnot (though not too sure how much a young girl would exactly absorb..) That way when she's older and if she ahs to do more home IV's she'll know what to do right away.
<br />I was on home IV's for the first time this past December and after about 2 days I basically ran the whole thing myself (granted I was 17, but still, you get the point). It defiantly took a work load off of my parents.
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<br />Keep a positive face on this and you'll do fine <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">
 

LouLou

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>Liza</b></i>




May I ask, why you chose home IV? </end quote></div>

Many of the pediatric care centers are recommending a few days inpatient and then sending home on IVs if there is a good care team on the home front to avoid hospital infections at all cost. The hospitals are a different world than they were when your girls were kids. MRSA and VRE abound!
 

LouLou

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>Liza</b></i>




May I ask, why you chose home IV? </end quote>

Many of the pediatric care centers are recommending a few days inpatient and then sending home on IVs if there is a good care team on the home front to avoid hospital infections at all cost. The hospitals are a different world than they were when your girls were kids. MRSA and VRE abound!
 

LouLou

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>Liza</b></i>
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<br />May I ask, why you chose home IV? </end quote>
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<br />Many of the pediatric care centers are recommending a few days inpatient and then sending home on IVs if there is a good care team on the home front to avoid hospital infections at all cost. The hospitals are a different world than they were when your girls were kids. MRSA and VRE abound!
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hmw

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Thank you so much everyone. <img src="i/expressions/rose.gif" border="0">

I brought her up on Monday to be seen, she was admitted later that day and we were discharged Friday. If she'd been on IV's before I think it would have been a bit sooner. It also took changing her tobra dose twice to get levels right- so each time dose changed it took several infusions before levels could be drawn again. I am assuming next time she needs tobra they have a better idea how she metabolizes it and what dose to give her to start with. The other med is ceftazidime.

Each med infuses in a little under an hour, and fortunately she can do them back to back~ so start to finish w/cleaning, flushing etc the IV session takes just under 2hrs to finish. She was on a schedule that naturally included a middle-of-the-night dose at the hospital but the last day there (once levels were right) we started advancing times by an hour each dose and by the time she'd had a couple doses at home we'd gotten onto our 6am, 2pm, 10pm schedule. At least after several doses the cleaning and flushing part doesn't feel as awkward as it did at first, I can do it faster now. I am SO glad I didn't have to go home with an IV pump or bags to hang, etc.

Given the drop in pft's, and she is bringing up SO much junk during airway clearance... I am sure that's why they want her doing 4 treatments a day. They have us doing albuterol and pulmicort 4x/day; pulmozyme and hypersal each twice/day. I think she's finally starting to break up stuff down there given what some of it looks like.

As hard as it is to have her hooked up to stuff more hours out of the day, I can't let the feed stuff go now. She needs a LOT of extra hydration and Miralax to stave off DIOS when she is sick (don't completely know why, but every one of her severe bouts have been on the heels of an exacerbation) and nutrition can't be compromised when she's sick due to her pattern of weight loss during illness. That can be timed with the abx at least and the feed pump can be worn in a backpack... I tucked the IV ball into the outside pocket of the backpack and that seemed to work well to keep all the tubing out of the way.

I do agree that this can be a good teaching experience. We do our best to involve Emily in all of her treatment (and she can do quite a bit of it independently) and by the end of this she will, no doubt, be pretty familiar with how it all works. We can enlist her help in getting stuff 'set up' prior to what we have to do to sterilize everything and as she gets a little older she can do more and more.

They told me while we were there that they don't send all of their patients home on IV's, that it's only the ones they feel confident in being able to take it on~ being compliant with resp. treatment, taking care of the picc safely, giving the meds as they should be, etc. And that if it worked out that we just couldn't do it, they would let us come back. But that said, home is a better environment and SAFER, as LouLou says.
 

hmw

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Thank you so much everyone. <img src="i/expressions/rose.gif" border="0">

I brought her up on Monday to be seen, she was admitted later that day and we were discharged Friday. If she'd been on IV's before I think it would have been a bit sooner. It also took changing her tobra dose twice to get levels right- so each time dose changed it took several infusions before levels could be drawn again. I am assuming next time she needs tobra they have a better idea how she metabolizes it and what dose to give her to start with. The other med is ceftazidime.

Each med infuses in a little under an hour, and fortunately she can do them back to back~ so start to finish w/cleaning, flushing etc the IV session takes just under 2hrs to finish. She was on a schedule that naturally included a middle-of-the-night dose at the hospital but the last day there (once levels were right) we started advancing times by an hour each dose and by the time she'd had a couple doses at home we'd gotten onto our 6am, 2pm, 10pm schedule. At least after several doses the cleaning and flushing part doesn't feel as awkward as it did at first, I can do it faster now. I am SO glad I didn't have to go home with an IV pump or bags to hang, etc.

Given the drop in pft's, and she is bringing up SO much junk during airway clearance... I am sure that's why they want her doing 4 treatments a day. They have us doing albuterol and pulmicort 4x/day; pulmozyme and hypersal each twice/day. I think she's finally starting to break up stuff down there given what some of it looks like.

As hard as it is to have her hooked up to stuff more hours out of the day, I can't let the feed stuff go now. She needs a LOT of extra hydration and Miralax to stave off DIOS when she is sick (don't completely know why, but every one of her severe bouts have been on the heels of an exacerbation) and nutrition can't be compromised when she's sick due to her pattern of weight loss during illness. That can be timed with the abx at least and the feed pump can be worn in a backpack... I tucked the IV ball into the outside pocket of the backpack and that seemed to work well to keep all the tubing out of the way.

I do agree that this can be a good teaching experience. We do our best to involve Emily in all of her treatment (and she can do quite a bit of it independently) and by the end of this she will, no doubt, be pretty familiar with how it all works. We can enlist her help in getting stuff 'set up' prior to what we have to do to sterilize everything and as she gets a little older she can do more and more.

They told me while we were there that they don't send all of their patients home on IV's, that it's only the ones they feel confident in being able to take it on~ being compliant with resp. treatment, taking care of the picc safely, giving the meds as they should be, etc. And that if it worked out that we just couldn't do it, they would let us come back. But that said, home is a better environment and SAFER, as LouLou says.
 

hmw

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Thank you so much everyone. <img src="i/expressions/rose.gif" border="0">
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<br />I brought her up on Monday to be seen, she was admitted later that day and we were discharged Friday. If she'd been on IV's before I think it would have been a bit sooner. It also took changing her tobra dose twice to get levels right- so each time dose changed it took several infusions before levels could be drawn again. I am assuming next time she needs tobra they have a better idea how she metabolizes it and what dose to give her to start with. The other med is ceftazidime.
<br />
<br />Each med infuses in a little under an hour, and fortunately she can do them back to back~ so start to finish w/cleaning, flushing etc the IV session takes just under 2hrs to finish. She was on a schedule that naturally included a middle-of-the-night dose at the hospital but the last day there (once levels were right) we started advancing times by an hour each dose and by the time she'd had a couple doses at home we'd gotten onto our 6am, 2pm, 10pm schedule. At least after several doses the cleaning and flushing part doesn't feel as awkward as it did at first, I can do it faster now. I am SO glad I didn't have to go home with an IV pump or bags to hang, etc.
<br />
<br />Given the drop in pft's, and she is bringing up SO much junk during airway clearance... I am sure that's why they want her doing 4 treatments a day. They have us doing albuterol and pulmicort 4x/day; pulmozyme and hypersal each twice/day. I think she's finally starting to break up stuff down there given what some of it looks like.
<br />
<br />As hard as it is to have her hooked up to stuff more hours out of the day, I can't let the feed stuff go now. She needs a LOT of extra hydration and Miralax to stave off DIOS when she is sick (don't completely know why, but every one of her severe bouts have been on the heels of an exacerbation) and nutrition can't be compromised when she's sick due to her pattern of weight loss during illness. That can be timed with the abx at least and the feed pump can be worn in a backpack... I tucked the IV ball into the outside pocket of the backpack and that seemed to work well to keep all the tubing out of the way.
<br />
<br />I do agree that this can be a good teaching experience. We do our best to involve Emily in all of her treatment (and she can do quite a bit of it independently) and by the end of this she will, no doubt, be pretty familiar with how it all works. We can enlist her help in getting stuff 'set up' prior to what we have to do to sterilize everything and as she gets a little older she can do more and more.
<br />
<br />They told me while we were there that they don't send all of their patients home on IV's, that it's only the ones they feel confident in being able to take it on~ being compliant with resp. treatment, taking care of the picc safely, giving the meds as they should be, etc. And that if it worked out that we just couldn't do it, they would let us come back. But that said, home is a better environment and SAFER, as LouLou says.
 
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TonyaH

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I am happy to hear you are on an eight hour schedule. We are usually on a six, so we average about 5 hour nights while on ivs. I have no experience with feeding tubes. Is there a way to do her feeds so you can sleep from midnight until 6 am? Getting that six hours of uninterrubped sleep would be really nice.

I would also talk to your home health company about the ceftaz. It is available in an iv push...meaning it comes in a giant syringe and you inject it slowly for about 15 minutes. That would cut the infusion time of that med. In additon to being a faster infuse, it would be cheaper for the home infusion company. Eclipse balls are pricey.. I am sure they would comply!
 
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TonyaH

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I am happy to hear you are on an eight hour schedule. We are usually on a six, so we average about 5 hour nights while on ivs. I have no experience with feeding tubes. Is there a way to do her feeds so you can sleep from midnight until 6 am? Getting that six hours of uninterrubped sleep would be really nice.

I would also talk to your home health company about the ceftaz. It is available in an iv push...meaning it comes in a giant syringe and you inject it slowly for about 15 minutes. That would cut the infusion time of that med. In additon to being a faster infuse, it would be cheaper for the home infusion company. Eclipse balls are pricey.. I am sure they would comply!
 
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TonyaH

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I am happy to hear you are on an eight hour schedule. We are usually on a six, so we average about 5 hour nights while on ivs. I have no experience with feeding tubes. Is there a way to do her feeds so you can sleep from midnight until 6 am? Getting that six hours of uninterrubped sleep would be really nice.
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<br />I would also talk to your home health company about the ceftaz. It is available in an iv push...meaning it comes in a giant syringe and you inject it slowly for about 15 minutes. That would cut the infusion time of that med. In additon to being a faster infuse, it would be cheaper for the home infusion company. Eclipse balls are pricey.. I am sure they would comply!
 

JennifersHope

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Sending love, I know you well enough to know you will come through this like a champ. It is hard, I know, I have hard time when I had to do it for myself and I am grown up RN....

Hope things get better fast.
 
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