On a plane with another CF'er....what do you do?

Diane

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>clinging2faith</b></i>

I see that the jack of all traits and master of none is here again posting statements to make you Kelly feel bad. As the only trait this "master" seems to have available (harrasment all the way).




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Diane

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>clinging2faith</b></i>

I see that the jack of all traits and master of none is here again posting statements to make you Kelly feel bad. As the only trait this "master" seems to have available (harrasment all the way).




LOL <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-cool.gif" border="0">
 

sue35

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Getting back on a positive note Kelli have you gone on your trip yet?

Thinking more about it I would go and probably honestly only use a mask if I or she was sick. But that is only because when I wear a mask I have a harder trouble breathing for some reason.

Anyway, I hope you have fun and did not take my post before badly. It was not directed at you and I got off topic. I do know that when I was 7 and went on a trip with my aunt I thought I was the coolest person ever!
 

sue35

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Getting back on a positive note Kelli have you gone on your trip yet?

Thinking more about it I would go and probably honestly only use a mask if I or she was sick. But that is only because when I wear a mask I have a harder trouble breathing for some reason.

Anyway, I hope you have fun and did not take my post before badly. It was not directed at you and I got off topic. I do know that when I was 7 and went on a trip with my aunt I thought I was the coolest person ever!
 

sue35

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Getting back on a positive note Kelli have you gone on your trip yet?

Thinking more about it I would go and probably honestly only use a mask if I or she was sick. But that is only because when I wear a mask I have a harder trouble breathing for some reason.

Anyway, I hope you have fun and did not take my post before badly. It was not directed at you and I got off topic. I do know that when I was 7 and went on a trip with my aunt I thought I was the coolest person ever!
 

NoExcuses

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>clinging2faith</b></i>

and people do vary in ages as far as death. </end quote></div>

Any country varies in terms of ages with death. I was speaking about average life span, as quoted by cfww.og.

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>, but they also implement a different thinking and approach to cf </end quote></div>

Which is what? I'd love to hear what they do there in terms of different thinking... you didn't give many details.

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote> But not all of them in Denmark survive because of the rules of cross contamination ,there is a lot more than that which extends their livespan. </end quote></div>

Again I'd love to hear details since you stated twice that there is a lot more to longer lifespans.


<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Europe's healthcare system always comes up first with the newest treatments years (at least 3-5yrs) before they land in the FDA to be approved for use in the USA. </end quote></div>

What CF treatments does Europe have that the US doesn't? If you could give details, again, I would love to know.

Last I checked <i> most don't use TOBI, Pulmozyme or HFCC (the Vest).
 

NoExcuses

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>clinging2faith</b></i>

and people do vary in ages as far as death. </end quote></div>

Any country varies in terms of ages with death. I was speaking about average life span, as quoted by cfww.og.

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>, but they also implement a different thinking and approach to cf </end quote></div>

Which is what? I'd love to hear what they do there in terms of different thinking... you didn't give many details.

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote> But not all of them in Denmark survive because of the rules of cross contamination ,there is a lot more than that which extends their livespan. </end quote></div>

Again I'd love to hear details since you stated twice that there is a lot more to longer lifespans.


<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Europe's healthcare system always comes up first with the newest treatments years (at least 3-5yrs) before they land in the FDA to be approved for use in the USA. </end quote></div>

What CF treatments does Europe have that the US doesn't? If you could give details, again, I would love to know.

Last I checked <i> most don't use TOBI, Pulmozyme or HFCC (the Vest).
 

NoExcuses

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>clinging2faith</b></i>

and people do vary in ages as far as death. </end quote></div>

Any country varies in terms of ages with death. I was speaking about average life span, as quoted by cfww.og.

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>, but they also implement a different thinking and approach to cf </end quote></div>

Which is what? I'd love to hear what they do there in terms of different thinking... you didn't give many details.

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote> But not all of them in Denmark survive because of the rules of cross contamination ,there is a lot more than that which extends their livespan. </end quote></div>

Again I'd love to hear details since you stated twice that there is a lot more to longer lifespans.


<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Europe's healthcare system always comes up first with the newest treatments years (at least 3-5yrs) before they land in the FDA to be approved for use in the USA. </end quote></div>

What CF treatments does Europe have that the US doesn't? If you could give details, again, I would love to know.

Last I checked <i> most don't use TOBI, Pulmozyme or HFCC (the Vest).
 

shamrock

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Haha, this topic makes me laugh when I read some of the serious replies. Up until the last few years, our CF association would bring us ON A PLANE every year to France for a pilgramige(sp?). YES, that meant about 10-15 Cfers on the plane, all breathing and all coughing...Oh how little we knew!!

I must point out that I see several references to Denmark and other Eurpoean countries with regard to survival rates. This is indeed due to different practices, but ALSO over in northern Europe the genetic build up would be different to the MAJORITY of cfers in US. This means different levels of Gluthaine and other such factors. Just sometihng to keep in mind <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">

Also, another small point. It is MY belief that life it to be enjoyed - Quality and NOT quantity. Kelli, I say fly with your niece to FL. You can't live in a bubble the rest of your life like some people suggest <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">
 

shamrock

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Haha, this topic makes me laugh when I read some of the serious replies. Up until the last few years, our CF association would bring us ON A PLANE every year to France for a pilgramige(sp?). YES, that meant about 10-15 Cfers on the plane, all breathing and all coughing...Oh how little we knew!!

I must point out that I see several references to Denmark and other Eurpoean countries with regard to survival rates. This is indeed due to different practices, but ALSO over in northern Europe the genetic build up would be different to the MAJORITY of cfers in US. This means different levels of Gluthaine and other such factors. Just sometihng to keep in mind <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">

Also, another small point. It is MY belief that life it to be enjoyed - Quality and NOT quantity. Kelli, I say fly with your niece to FL. You can't live in a bubble the rest of your life like some people suggest <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">
 

shamrock

New member
Haha, this topic makes me laugh when I read some of the serious replies. Up until the last few years, our CF association would bring us ON A PLANE every year to France for a pilgramige(sp?). YES, that meant about 10-15 Cfers on the plane, all breathing and all coughing...Oh how little we knew!!

I must point out that I see several references to Denmark and other Eurpoean countries with regard to survival rates. This is indeed due to different practices, but ALSO over in northern Europe the genetic build up would be different to the MAJORITY of cfers in US. This means different levels of Gluthaine and other such factors. Just sometihng to keep in mind <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">

Also, another small point. It is MY belief that life it to be enjoyed - Quality and NOT quantity. Kelli, I say fly with your niece to FL. You can't live in a bubble the rest of your life like some people suggest <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">
 

okok

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all i know is that on planes all the air is recirculated so everyone is sharing germs no matter where you sit (assuming the germs are transimitted in an airborne manner.) I guess if i were you i would probably sit next to her but wear a mask and be very conscientous about hand washing. I think a strong immune system is probably the best thing for prevention though.
 

okok

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all i know is that on planes all the air is recirculated so everyone is sharing germs no matter where you sit (assuming the germs are transimitted in an airborne manner.) I guess if i were you i would probably sit next to her but wear a mask and be very conscientous about hand washing. I think a strong immune system is probably the best thing for prevention though.
 

okok

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all i know is that on planes all the air is recirculated so everyone is sharing germs no matter where you sit (assuming the germs are transimitted in an airborne manner.) I guess if i were you i would probably sit next to her but wear a mask and be very conscientous about hand washing. I think a strong immune system is probably the best thing for prevention though.
 
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littlemisssilly

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In response to the first question.

Please understand that wearing a mask is really useless. The more important predictor of cross contamination is ineffective handwashing. These germs, as Amy said, are spread through droplets expelled from the lungs during coughing / laughing etc and they land on surfaces where they multiply in the saliva / mucous.

It is more important to wash your hands and use an alcohol hand rub (at least 60-70% alcohol content) and learn to never tough your mouth, nose or eyes without washing your hands.

I really don't want to pass judgment on the original poster but, if you spend so much time together on the ground then, the risks of cross contamination are already present each time you meet. There have been reported cases of people with CF becoming newly colonised with bacteria from other CFs when being in confined spaces together like a car. Unless you meet in the open air and stay 3 feet away each time you meet, taking a plane trip together is not that much of a bigger risk compared to when you meet otherwise.
 
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littlemisssilly

Guest
In response to the first question.

Please understand that wearing a mask is really useless. The more important predictor of cross contamination is ineffective handwashing. These germs, as Amy said, are spread through droplets expelled from the lungs during coughing / laughing etc and they land on surfaces where they multiply in the saliva / mucous.

It is more important to wash your hands and use an alcohol hand rub (at least 60-70% alcohol content) and learn to never tough your mouth, nose or eyes without washing your hands.

I really don't want to pass judgment on the original poster but, if you spend so much time together on the ground then, the risks of cross contamination are already present each time you meet. There have been reported cases of people with CF becoming newly colonised with bacteria from other CFs when being in confined spaces together like a car. Unless you meet in the open air and stay 3 feet away each time you meet, taking a plane trip together is not that much of a bigger risk compared to when you meet otherwise.
 
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littlemisssilly

Guest
In response to the first question.

Please understand that wearing a mask is really useless. The more important predictor of cross contamination is ineffective handwashing. These germs, as Amy said, are spread through droplets expelled from the lungs during coughing / laughing etc and they land on surfaces where they multiply in the saliva / mucous.

It is more important to wash your hands and use an alcohol hand rub (at least 60-70% alcohol content) and learn to never tough your mouth, nose or eyes without washing your hands.

I really don't want to pass judgment on the original poster but, if you spend so much time together on the ground then, the risks of cross contamination are already present each time you meet. There have been reported cases of people with CF becoming newly colonised with bacteria from other CFs when being in confined spaces together like a car. Unless you meet in the open air and stay 3 feet away each time you meet, taking a plane trip together is not that much of a bigger risk compared to when you meet otherwise.
 

Samsmom

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All the suggestions have been good. What about that stuff called airborne that is supposed to help boost your immune system. I have never taken a good look at it , just came to mind. If you are really unsure about the exposure to each other I would check with your docs. and get their opinion. My daughter was diagnosed a year ago and they have never told us to keep her away from other cfers???? Have a great vacation however you get there!!
 

Samsmom

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All the suggestions have been good. What about that stuff called airborne that is supposed to help boost your immune system. I have never taken a good look at it , just came to mind. If you are really unsure about the exposure to each other I would check with your docs. and get their opinion. My daughter was diagnosed a year ago and they have never told us to keep her away from other cfers???? Have a great vacation however you get there!!
 

Samsmom

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All the suggestions have been good. What about that stuff called airborne that is supposed to help boost your immune system. I have never taken a good look at it , just came to mind. If you are really unsure about the exposure to each other I would check with your docs. and get their opinion. My daughter was diagnosed a year ago and they have never told us to keep her away from other cfers???? Have a great vacation however you get there!!
 
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