Converting Dairy-based protein drinks...

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JRPandTJP

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I noticed alot of you give Carnation Instant breakfast to your little ones. Since we can not do dairy and I know a few other moms who can't or choose not to, I'd like to see if I can't do a high cal drink or shake from my non-dairy goodies that matches the calorie, protein, fat content of these drinks without all the sugar and corn syrup.

Can someone list the ingrediants on the Carnation Instant and High protein drinks you use? I have the ingredients for Boost High Protein. It has 200 calories made with water; 13 grams protein, 1 gram fat, and a whopping 35 grams of sugar. THe only ingredients after the non-fat milk it sugar, corn syrup and artificial flavor (oh and a few tiny drops of vitamins less then 2%). Yuck

Does this bother anyone else? This sugar content is up there with soda! Does anyone else worry about these high cal but high sugar drinks in terms of CFRD (CF related diabetes)? I just worry about our little guys in regards to keeping blood sugar levels more stable while still keeping calorie intake high.

Just wondered if anyone else would be interested in a recipe makeover on these products. I might have a chef give it a try and then have a certified dietician look over and verify the contents so everyone would know it is comparable to these products. What do you think?

Just an idea...thanks.

Jody
 
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julie

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Jody,

mark uses Boost Plus, not any high protein stuff because his main problem is the weight, and he has a problem getting in enough caloeires everyday. It's got 14 grams of protein and 360 calories. Here's the link, scroll down a little bit <a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.boost.com/boostplushcp.html
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Hope this helps a bit, good luck and let us know if you get anything made that has less sugar!!!!
 
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Seana30

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Jody,

This is a very good point! I hate giving Courtney so much sugar, but if I have to choose between soda and CIB, I choose the CIB.

I would love it if you could come up with a recipe for a shake that does not contain so much sugar and crap.

Here is the label on the Carnation Instant Breakfast VHC.

8.45 fl oz can

calories 560
total fat 32 g
sat. fat 3 g
trans fat 0 g
sodium 290 mg
potassium 440 mg
total carbs 49 g
fiber 0 g
sugars 15 g
protein 23 g



ingredients

water, corn syrup solids, canola oil, calcium-potassium, sugar, isolated soy protein, corn oil, and less than 2% of: soy lecithin, natural and artificial flavors, calcuim citrate, potassuim citrate, sodium phosphate, potassuim phosphate, soduim ascorbate, magnesium chloride, salt, citric acid, sodium citrate, magnesium oxide, choline chloride, zinc sulfate, taurine, calcium phosphate, carrageenan, ferrous sulfate, niacinamide, vitamin E, acetate, calcium pantothenate, manganese sulfate, vitamin A palmitate, vitamin B6, copper sulfate, vitamin B2, thiamine mononitrate, biotin, folic acid, vitamin D3, chromium chloride, vitamin B12, vitamin K1, potassium iodide, sodium molybdate, sodium selenate


I hope I spelled all of these correctly. As I get older, my eye sight is really going. I had to use reading glasses to try and read the label.

Seana
 
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Ratatosk

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DS doesn't have a problem with dairy, so we're fortunate that we can use powdered CIB. IMO, some of the lactose free, premixed stuff smells so vile or vitaminy. I've gotten him pediasure in the past, but the smell is very overwhelming.

I know you're concerned about sugar, but what about adding CIB powder to soy or some other non-dairy beverage. Has anyone tried doing that? Liza
 
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jonandlindsay

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I am so glad you brought up this subject. Just yesterday I was thinking about all the not-so-healthy things our kids are supposed to eat just to get more calories. I've always felt that there must be a better way. Ella drinks CIB for breakfast and lunch with whole milk. It is so full of sugar and chemicals it makes me feel badly every time I make her drink it. Please let us know what you come up with.

Lindsay
~ Mom to Ella - 2 1/2 w/ CF
 
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JRPandTJP

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thanks guys. I think I will give it a go and see what happens. It might take a while.

Risa, I like organic too. My daughter does dairy (sounds funny) and we do all organic milk/yogurt and cheese too. I really bothers me congestion-wise (sinuses and allergies are worse) but I gotta have some good ice cream from time to time! I read once that if you are going to spend the extra $1 on organic foods, dairy and fats (like your oils) are the best investment to make as the toxins in oil forms stay in the body longest. I try to buy as much stuff as possible but it isn't always in season or available. Do you live somewhere where it is readily available? I love going to different groceries around here, we are getting so many new ones with lots of great products and ideas.

I would love to someday have an all organic farm but for now I have this - I call it my mini-me organic garden LOL Jody
 
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thelizardqueen

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SCANDISHAKE calorie-rich shake mix. They come in Strawberry, Vanilla or Chocolate. A 3-oz serving of SCANDISHAKE powder mixed with 8 oz. of whole milk makes a 600-calorie milk shake. Each 12-oz. box contains four 3-oz. envelopes. You can also substitute the milk for any type of fruit juice.

Here's a link for some recipes:

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.axcan.com/recipes.php?lang=1
">http://www.axcan.com/recipes.php?lang=1
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You can even put this in casseroles, side dishes, salads, shakes, drinks & desserts. THere are even some lactose free options on this page as well.
 
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EnergyGal

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Hi Jody
I live in south florida and we have Whole foods market. I did buy a new organic ice cream yesterday and it is making my sinuses congested today. Not a good choice for the one I bought. I am not too bad in my sinuses but it was not worth it. I will give the rest to my husband. There are other kinds of ice cream that are better.

I like your little garden. How precious
 
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JRPandTJP

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Liz, thanks some of the recipes and info. I may try and see if I can create some non-dairy versions with same of higher calorie counts.

What exactly is in this stuff to give the calories? Lactose free usually still means casein and other milk proteins, so Ben can't do that. Do you have an ingredients list? Didn't find that on the site. I'm just curious to compare all of these products and their breakdowns of calories, protein, fats, sugar and vitamin contents.

Risa, that garden is actually a summer project for my daugher and her 2 friend who live on either side. It also called the friendship garden because the 2 older girls weren't getting along...so we created soemthing they all had to do together. They take turns each week taking care of it and bringing it inside so the deer don't eat it. We are hoping they get at least some veggies out of it. I also notice the same thing sinus wise. I had dairy tonight and I will wake up puffy for sure, plus it really affects my stomach. It isn't usually worth it for me.
 
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