Finding Out (Your Child has CF)

anonymous

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Just wondering how you were told your child had CF (only really applies to those parents whose child was picked up on screening). For example, when we found out our daughter had CF, first of all our GP came to our house. At first, I thought something was wrong with me! My daughter had shown no signs of having CF. My husband had gone for a run and the time, and I was at home with my eldest daughter (who was then 2) and my youngest daughter with CF(who was then 6 weeks). He told us that some tests had showed that there may be something wrong with our daughter. I knew before he told me, that something was wrong and was quite scared so I asked if he could wait til my husband returned home as he wasn't going to be long, but he said it couldn't wait.

When my husband returned home the Doc had left and I told him that we had to take our daughter to the Paediatric Outpatients Unit at the Hospital. Anyway, to cut a very long story short, when we were actually told about our daughter having CF there were about eight people in the room which I still think to this day was a terrible way of telling us. Don't get me wrong, there is no easy or nice way of telling someone that your child has CF, but I really think that we could have been told just by the Consultant with nobody else in the room.

I found the first few visits to the Clinic very tough, and am still very angry to this day about the way they did it all.

I would be grateful for any of your views and/or questions.

Charlotte<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-disgusted.gif" border="0">
 

ampetrie

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Hi, my daughter too, was diagnosed because of newborn screening. We were first notified by a phone call from our GP that she had tested positive on the newborn screening. We then met with him and he told us that because they had only picked up one gene that she had a 4% (or something like that) chance of actually having the disease, but we set up a sweat test just to be sure. Last week after the sweat test we sat down in a private room with her pulmonologist and he told us that she most likely had the disease, but that they would repeat the sweat test. Two days later after the second sweat test we knew for sure that she had it. Our doctor was very nice and he took a few hours out of his schedule to talk to us and answer questions. Besides the doctor there was also a NP in the room, but that was it. We have only been to the dr twice but so far I am happy with the way we have been treated.

I think its awful that they told you in front of so many people. I know when it hit me I completely broke down. I couldn't imagine having people other than my family watching me. I am surprised that your GP actually came to the house too. I know mine probably wasn't right for telling us over the phone, but it was on a Friday evening after office hours that he finally got ahold of us and he said he wanted to be the first to tell us.

I'm just curious, what state do you live in??
 

anonymous

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Thanks for that. We live in Wales in the UK.

Charlotte<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">
 

MOME2RT

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Reece was born w/ mecoium elis (sp) BUT we had NO idea. As soon as he was born the docs noticed something....he did not take to the breast very well....to me the first sign looking back....(his tummy was all screwed up) then they noticed that his tummy was bloated. He was born on the 29th...(they kept him in the nursery all night except 2 times when they brought him in to me to try to feed him.) The next morning they told us that they were gonna transfer him to CHKD. They did ALL kinds of test but CF was on their top 3 list...the other 2 were Hyrsprung Disease or a small colon. So when they told me that I cried my eyes out....I had heard of CF but had no idea. (but the day before when they transfer team came to get him...they wheeled him in all buckled in....I gave him a kiss and told them to drive safe...one of the team members asked if CF ran in the family...... I said NO WAY, and so I thought we were off the hook.....Anyways, Reece was released 8 days later after MANT tests, X-RAYS, and enimas. We were told to ttreat him as if he DID have CF...CPTs...albeutrol treatments and enzymes. They did NOT have the official results back yet....but when the did his pulmnlogist CALLED us to tell us the results!!!!!!!! CALLED us...I still think that was a crappy way of telling us that our baby had a noncureable disease......BUT during Reeces stay the CF social worker DID come by and talk to us (I guess to prepare us) Tah twas his "old" doctor..I dont think his present one would have done that.
 

Ratatosk

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About 12 hours after DS was born, he started vomiting green stuff. When he was born they thought he'd stooled in the womb, so they put him in the NICU and observed him over night. He was examined by a neonatologist and a pediatrician and they told me he was fine. The peds doctor did mention to me in passing that it appeared he had a lot of stool. But I was a first time mom -- what did I know. After he started hurling they ordered xrays and a new neonatologist came in to work. Told us DS had a blockage and needed to be lifeflighted to the city for emergency surgery. In passing he said -- this could be a sign of CF.

After 4 1/2 hours of surgery, the surgeon explained what he found, what he repaired. Said, the type of blockage twisting in 99% of the cases is CF and walked out the door. DH, hit the floor (passed out). Blood tests were ordered, also before we'd left home, the orignal neonatologist ordered one as well. 4 days later the neonatologist told us the results were back, it was CF. He arranged for a CF doctor to come in that evening and visit with us, answer questions. L
 

Abby

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Abby was diagnosed at 5 months of age because of a urinary tract infection. She was hospitalized on a Monday night because of the infection, the bacteria found in her urine was Pseudomonas. I spent all night Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday with her in the hospital. On Thursday, my husband told me to get out for a while, go to work and come back in the afternoon, which I did. He stayed with her and my mom works in the same hospital so I knew she was in good hands. I was told in one of my many phone calls to her room that morning that the doctor had ordered a sweat test to "rule out" cf. Honestly didn't give it another thought. Talked to my husband many times that day, called to say at 3pm that I was on my way to the hospital. I should have known something was wrong when I got off the elevator as all the nurses gave me the pity look and I saw my husband and another staffer waiting for me in the hallway. I walked right up, asked what was going on, not noticing my husbands expressions or sad face, he said "Nothing". I knew something was terribly wrong when the social worker gave him "the look" as in tell her the truth. He then told me that Abby had cf. At first I didn't let it sink in, just said, "ok, where do we go from here?". My husband was upset and said he didn't know yet but that our daughter was going to die before she reached adulthood. At that point, I walked into her room, where both of my parents and MIL were (they already knew) and just about collapsed. Luckily, my dad was there and caught me, let me sob for about 15 minutes. The hospital staff was great, there was a nurse that worked in the er, who has a son with cf, they asked her to come talk to us the following afternoon. I still feel extremely guilty that I wasn't there with my husband when he found out that day. He was all by himself with Abby and the pain/grief he felt must have been overwhelming. I sometimes get mad at him because I never saw him cry and I cried for two days straight. But my mom said that he was balling when she came in the room shortly after he was told, he was just being strong for me when I needed it.
 

annonymous

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We received a letter in the mail advising us to come in for a sweat test. It had a "questions and answers" section and the letter made it sound like it was pretty common to have one done and that we would probably be fine.
We went in for the sweat test and while waiting for the results, the genetic counselor visited with us. When she read the results, she told us that the numbers are consistent with CF. I asked her point blank if he had it or not and she told me that only the doctor could make the diagnosis. The following week, we received a letter from her that stated, "your child has cystic fibrosis". This ticked me off because we hadn't even met with the doctor yet and she said herself that only the doc could make the dx!!! I didn't appreciate her from the get go anyway, she was very cold and unempathetic. Some counselor......
 

anonymous

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I found out my daugher had CF before she was born, when I was about 5 months pregnant. It's a long story: When I was 20 wks pregnant i had a routine ultrasound, we went in with my son(about 4 yrs old) and my husband to see the baby and find out the sex. It was the same technician that did my son's u/s so I knew she was good and very friendly. I remember her acting quiet and not weanting to tell me the sex of the baby. She also said she saw the bab swallowing amniotic fluid and that was "a good sign". In my head I thought why is there a bad sign there? After the U/S the tech went off into the other room and was looking at the u/s pics in the bright light. I remember my stomach sinking for some reason, like I had a premonition.

At 2pm that day, my OB-GYN called saying they saw something on the u/s; and echogenic bowel and an echogenic foci in the left ventricle of her heart. she said it could mean Down's sndrome, trisomy 13 or CF. They needed to do a level 2 u/s to check if this was really there(it was). I was headed out for work at the time, my mom was there to babysit my son. I was a charge nurse on a cardiac floor, I took my cell phone got in my car and called my husband screaming in the phone there is omething wrong with the baby. You want to see a pregnant woman go crazy and tell her ther is something wrong with her baby.

After much consideration and heartache I had an amnio, which ruled out the down's or chromosomal disorder. My husband and I had carrier testing for CF which each came back for a mutation for CF. THe amniotic fluid had been tested for our mutations. But this took a while to come back, in my heart I knew my daugher had CF. When we finally found out, a nurse from the OB office called and said that my daughter carried both Cf mutation, she told me over the phone and my husband was out for a run. I started crying and hung up on the nurse. But after we found out my daughter did have CF I was more able to accept this and move on with my pregnancy.

My feeeling is we have all this genetic testing but no one seemd overly sympathetic or skilled at addressing me as a pregnant mom with a child with a potential problem. You are kind of on your own. The one person who was helpful was a gentic counselor, she seemed young and listened to me. I clearly remember asking her what other moms did when they were pregnant and found out their baby had CF did and she honestly said this never happened to anyone she knew before. Another peronatologist saiod the same thing to me as well.

Sorry so long, brings back lots of memories.

Rebecca(mom to Sammy7 no CF and Maggie3 with CF)
 

anonymous

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I think you never forget. Glad there's other people out there like me though. Thanks for all your stories. Another thing I meant to ask was how many of your children with CF were born with meconium present? My waters broke when I was pregnant with my daughter 3 weeks before her due date, with meconium.Do you think this was related to CF?

Charlotte<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif" border="0">
 

Jane

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This is still such a hard subject to talk about after 15 years.

At my son's two month check up I asked his doc why he had salt crystals all around his hair. His doctor told us that is a symptom of CF, but stated he really didn't think it would be that. Josh also had mild FTT. We went for a sweat test at the local hospital who said they'd never done one on such a young person and they weren't sure if their results would be accurate.

Our doc called us at home later to tell us that the number was 94 and that we needed to go to Boston Children's Hospital for further test. We had the test done a week later in a VERY small and creepy laboratory room. The doctor was very old and creepy too. AFter the test he came out to tell us he was sorry, but the test did show CF. We were left by ourselves to wonder now what?

We tried to get some info from the cf clinic but they wouldn't give any out. We were numb and in shock. All the research we did the following day was outdated and said children die at around 8 years old. We were devistated. It wasn't until weeks later that our doc scheduled an appointment at the CF clinic.

We have always felt that the way the diagnosis was was announced was mishandled. Families of newly diagnosed CF kids should be immediately surrounded by professionals who can answer questions and give emotional support. We still feel scarred by that experience.
 

anonymous

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oh!!!!!!!!!! another welshie<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0"> janet from uk here. we are from s. wales . llantwit major, about 16 miles south of cardiff. we live in bristol now ( had to move with my husbands work) we will return to wales when aled retires ( about 15 yrs). it must have been uncomfortable for you to have found out all about cf with an "audience". i was unable to control my emotions when i found out . i cried solidly for days , i couldn't speak without crying. our son was sent for sweat test , i didn't even know why they were doing it . i kept saying to the man that did it, why? theres nothing wrong with him<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif" border="0">. he never said what the test was for!!!!!!!!! my son had pnuemonia and was in hosp. for two weeks . nobody mentioned cf at all. what a horrible shock we had. we are dealing with it as best as we can though. but it is very hard for all of us. well you all know what i mean. take care. janet<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">
 

anonymous

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Charlotte,

I kept calling the doctor and hospital for 2-3 days telling them I was in labor. I wasn't due until the middle of the month, so they kept telling me it wasn't time. I finally had DH take me to the hospital, where they noticed I was dialated and kept me. I was over two weeks early.

The OB didn't like the color of the amniotic fluid when they broke my water, they had a whole crew in the delivery room to suction out DS because they thought he stooled in the womb. He was covered with green slime when he was born. Thought he was fine until 12 hours later when he started hurling green stuff and we realized he hadn't pooped. Liza aka ratatosk
 

Emily65Roses

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Haaaa Charlotte you'll love this. I was 2 days old, and still hadn't passed my meconium (it was blocked, as is not uncommon with CF). The doctor came into my mom's room, told her "We may have waited too long" and ran me off to another hospital about 45 minutes away. That was appropriate, don't you think? <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif" border="0"> Sometimes people are just too stupid/inconsiderate for words.
 

anonymous

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Hi! My son was also born with meconium ilius. We knew something was wrong before he was born. At 30 weeks pregnant I went to the doctor because I was so huge (already measuring at 40 weeks). The ultrasound showed that he has some sort of intestinal blockage which was causing the amniotic fluid to build up around him. I was told this could be an indication of cf and put on bed rest. I finally had to end up having him at 37 weeks due to poor results on the stress test. When he came out his little belly was so bloated. He had surgery at 1 day old. When the surgeon got in to fix the blockage his intestines had actually ruptured so they had to route his intestines to the outside and give him a colostomy bag. When the surgeon came out to talk to us he said it could be hirshsprungs disease, cf, or just a blockage. So after the test came back about two weeks later the results were cf. Our son was still in the NICU so the neonatologists came over and told us as we sat by our babies bedside. It was shocking to us...especially since we already have 3 other children who are healthy and no family history on either side. Anyway he had surgery again at 5 weeks old to put his intestines back together. He finally came home from the hospital for the first time at 9 weeks of age. He is now 2 1/2 years old and is doing great! Thanks to everyone else who has shared their stories....
Carrie
 

CFHockeyMom

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Like many of the other posts, this is a long story. I'll try to keep it as short as possible. I truly hope that our stories of diagnosis/misdiagnosis can help new parents out there still stuck in the system. Here goes...

I guess it all started when I had a test during pregnancy. You know, the one that has to be done at week 15. The test is supposed to test for Downes. Well, mine came back with suspect results so my OB sent me in for an amnio. The tech did an ultra sound before I was scheduled for the amnio and was able to rule out Downes from the ultrasound so we didn't go through with the amnio. The Dr. there told me that the Downes test is VERY time sensitive so if my due date was off, so was the timing of the test which can give false positive results. I left elated and didn't give it another thought. Since then, I've discovered other parents with CFers that also showed false positives on this test.

When Sean was born he was pretty darn blue. They couldn't get him to pink up as quickly as they would have liked but he finally came around and again, we didn't think any more of it. By the time we left the hospital, 2 days later, Sean was already eating ~4oz at a feeding and eating every couple of hours. The pediatrician that saw him before we left warned me that he was eating too much. Mind you not from a CF warning type of thing but because she thought I was just feeding him too much.

Once we were home he was eating all the time. By the time he was 8 weeks old he was eating 8oz every couple of hours. His poop was bulky and foul smelling but we didn't think much of it because he was eating soooooo much. Thing was, for as much as he was eating, he was a stick; about 9 lbs. at eight weeks. We knew something wasn't right.

My husband thought Sean tasted salty and remembered a PSA about kissing your baby, salty taste, maybe CF. I dimissed him but knew in my heart he was right. He did a little more research and convinced himself Sean had CF. I tried denying it to myself but I just knew he was right. At our next peds appt., we asked about Sean possibly having CF. His ped asked us if we had any family history and when we told her no, she told us to stop worrying. I held onto her words as tightly as I could but again, in my heart, I just knew.

When Sean was 10 weeks old (and 11lbs), he got a cold that he just couldn't shake. He went downhill pretty fast and his ped admitted him to the hospital with pneumonia. Of course, she still wasn't admitting to the possibility of CF. Sean continued to decline. They put him in a creepy oxygen tent and I thought I was going to die. After three days of GI tests, X-rays, heart tests, etc... They admitted that Sean needed more advanced care and that they wanted to transfer him. We got our choice of two hospitals. Both of which were accredited CF centers but I didn't know that at the time. I prepared to leave one hospital and go to another. My husband went home to pack a few things and make some phone calls in the meantime. A minute or two after he left the Dr. came in and asked me where my husband went. I explained that he'd be back shortly but wanted to take advantage of the "wait time". She then explained to me that there would be no wait time that Sean was being picked up by helicopter and beign transferred ASAP. Within minutes I heard the chopper landing.

I walked down the hallway and into the elevator with Sean and his "team". I remember all the people whispering, "Oh my God there's a little baby in there." This was what I thought to be the worst day of my life. The nurses explained that no matter how fast I drove they would still beat me to UofM so just to take my time. HA! I drove like the crazy person I was and ran every light. The nurse was right, they beat me there and by the time I got there Sean was already resting in the PICU.

The next day, a Dr. came in to take Sean's/our history. He asked a lot of questions that looking back on it, must have given HUGE RED FLAGS to everyone there that Sean did indeed have CF.

Sean was stabilized and moved to a regular room the next day where the nurses began doing CPT on him. The next day, he had a sweat test. I was sitting in his room looking out the door for some reason as the resident walked by and I overheard him say, "Oh good, mom is here." I knew it was bad news. My husband was only gone for a few seconds to get a soda so when the residents and the attending came back, he was there.

I don't remember their exact words but you know you're screwed when the attending comes along. All I remember them saying is cystic fibrosis. They said it very matter of factly and walked out. There was a nurse with the patient in the other bed and she came over immeadiately after the docs walked out and started rubbing my back. My head was down and I was sobbing. I have no idea where my husband was not because he wasnt' there but because I honestly felt like I was the only person there. The nurse only said, "I'm sorry". I wish I knew who she was because IMO she's the best nurse of all time. After a minute or two, my husband said, "It'll be ok. It's not like we'll love him any less." Though I was practically choking on my tears, I said, "I'll love him more."

The pulmonologist stopped by later that afternoon and gave us our "CF for dummies" class. It was all overwhelming but at the same time a little bit of a relief because now we knew what was wrong and what we could do for Sean.

I went home that night to get some sleep while my husband stayed at the hospital. I stood in the doorway of Sean's nursery and cried for hours.
 

Jane

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>CFHockeyMom</b></i>


My husband thought Sean tasted salty and remembered a PSA about kissing your baby, salty taste, maybe CF.
</end quote></div>


I had seen something on this too, which caused me to bring it up to the doctor. Does anyone else remember it? There was a female celebrity and a little kid, it was on tv probably around 1990.
 

Ratatosk

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When the surgeon dropped the CF bomb on us and walked out the door (and my husband passed out), my mother-in-law, a nurse tracked down the neonatologist and demanded that he come back and EXPLAIN CF to us. That you don't just say, CF and walk out the door. So he came back and explained they'd do testing, that there was a high probability he'd have cf. When the test results came back he made sure a CF doctor came and talked to us and answered any questions AND that the CF team took over DS's case while he was recovering in the NICU. L
 

anonymous

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The day my son was dx. w/cf is a day i will never forget. My OB GYN called me when Tucker was about 4 days old and told me that I needed to bring him in at an earlier time for his one week check up because they said they needed to do another heel prick because they didn't get enough blood the first time around. I questioned immediately if something was wrong and she said no, but my gut was telling me there was. So, the day came for his one week check up. I had to take him to the appt. myself since my husband is a coach and had a game to coach that evening. We went into the room, she checked everything out and asked the normal check up questions, then at the end of the visit, she non-chalantly said, and "Well, all of his tests for the newborn screening came back negative except he did test positive for CF". These will be words i will never forget as long as i live. My heart sunk and I looked at Tucker and thought, "this can't be happening . . . he is too perfect to have something wrong with him". After the doc told me, i asked what cf was. All she could tell me was that "he will fail to thrive". I was soooooooooooo upset that she told me about him testing positive for CF when i was there ALL by myself!! Hello? She could have called me the day of the appointment and said "you may want to have someone come with you because we have some concerns" or something to that effect. I mean, here I was, bawling my eyes out, shaking like a leaf, having a breakdown, and then I had to try to figure out how i was going to make it back home which was a 45 min. drive? Anyways, to make a long story short, I called my husband and was able to catch him before he left the house to go coach his game. He came to the clinic and when he walked in he had tears streaming down his face. We just sat and held each other for what seemed like eternity. A moment I will never forget! Since Tucker's dx. 4 years ago, i have written this specific clinic and strongly encouraged them to change their protocol as to how they go about breaking news like this to someone. But, unfortunately, I don't think they have made any changes. There is no easy way to break news like this to new parents, but I feel they could have done it a bit more respectfully and tactfully.

Jodi, Mom to Tucker 4 w/cf
 

anonymous

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Our CF journey started when I was pregnanct with our 3rd child. I had the tripple screen test done which came back and gave me a 1 in 78 chance of having a baby with Downs. I was scheduled for a level 2 ultrasound and given the option of an amnio which we declined. The ultrasound showed no signs of Downs but there was mild dialation of one kidney. No big deal, they assured me, just wanted to re-check in a few weeks. When I went back for the re-check they again told me, no signs of Downs but the baby had an echogenic bowel. The perinatologist came in and told me that this could be an indication of CF. I had heard of CF but didn't really know what it was. He sent my husband and I for carrier testing and sent me home with a little booklet about CF. Of course we were in shock and hoping that we were not carriers. We were told by many poeple not to worry, CF was not in our family. Turns out we are carriers and now that it was known, that was most likely the cause of the echogenic bowel. Again offered an amnio, decided against it. My care was transferred to two perinatologists, one who had a daughter with CF. He was very nice and answered any questions I had along the way. I had ultrasounds and non-stress tests every other week. They worked with my insurance to get them to cover my delivery at a hospital right next to the Childrens Hospital with a CF center and the best surgeons in the state. I was induced at 39 weeks. Danny was born with no complications and the drs took cord blood to have tested right away. He looked good when he was born, a little bluish, but his abdomen was not distended at all. They did X-rays right away and decided to feed him and see if he would pass his meconium. He ate okay the first night and most of the next day, but no stool. By the middle of the second night, while still in the hospital, he began to get distended and spit up his feeds. The next morning they stopped his feeds and did more x-rays which didn't look too good. It was then decided that they would try an enema. They had to start an IV so he would be hydrated and that meant he had to stay in the nursery. My husband was taking care of out other two kids but when he was able to come we both sat in the nursery and looked at our precious angel and prayed harder than we have ever prayed before. While we were sitting there the peds doc in the nursery told us that his genetic results were back and would we please go back into my room so she could talk to us. Right then I knew it was not good news. We sat down and she looked at us and said "tell me what you know about cf." I was so annoyed with her at that point. I just thought, what a dumb question. I said "just tell us, does he have cf or not?" "yes double deltaF508" Our world came crashing down and all I could do was bawl while my husband and I held each other. It felt like I had been stabbed in the heart. I felt sick to my stomache. I wanted to go into that nursery, take my baby, and run away as far and as fast as I could. The dr was still there at this point and she was trying to talk to us. What she said I don't know but I told her to leave us alone. After we calmed down a bit we went back into the nursery. They had Danny hooked up to even more things now. More IV's, monitors, Ng tube. We were not prepared for that. My husband never cries, but he took one look at Danny like that and tears streamed down his face. I will never forget the look in his eyes. Danny was transferred to the childrens hospital and at 5 days old went into surgery to remove the blockage. They placed an ileostomy and after 7 long weeks and many setbacks he finally got to come home. He came home with a Picc line, on TPN, lipids, and many IV meds but he was home. He thrived at home, had his ostomy taken down, and he is doing really well. Tomorrow is his 2nd birthday!!!! I was not pleased with the way the dr. broke the news about CF to us, but I suppose there really is no good was to tell parents their child has CF. Anyway, sorry this was so long. At this time of year all of those memories come back-- it seems like yesterday.

Nicole
 

CFHockeyMom

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Hi Nicole,

Not sure if you saw in my post but we also had a false positive triple screen during my "CF pregnancy". There have been a couple other people on here that experienced the same thing. I know most don't but there must be something that occasionally throws it off for CFers. Interesting...
 
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