I have a question about calories vs. fat calories

amber682

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Ok, quick question. I'll use my cream cheese I'm eating on my bagel as an example. It has 90 calories per serving, with 80 calories from fat. Does this mean that this cream cheese is almost entirely fat? Would my son would need more enzymes for this? If so, it doesn't seem like a very good choice, because the majority of it is fat, and people with CF and PI don't properly absorb fat, so a lot of it is wasted, no? I hope this is making some sense here.

I think we'd be better off with jelly, that has only 50 calories, but no fat. It also has a lot of carbs. Vincent's nutritionist is always pushing high calories and carbs, not high fat.

Sorry if this is a dumb question, I just thought of it when I read the cream cheese label.<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif" border="0">
 

amber682

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Ok, quick question. I'll use my cream cheese I'm eating on my bagel as an example. It has 90 calories per serving, with 80 calories from fat. Does this mean that this cream cheese is almost entirely fat? Would my son would need more enzymes for this? If so, it doesn't seem like a very good choice, because the majority of it is fat, and people with CF and PI don't properly absorb fat, so a lot of it is wasted, no? I hope this is making some sense here.

I think we'd be better off with jelly, that has only 50 calories, but no fat. It also has a lot of carbs. Vincent's nutritionist is always pushing high calories and carbs, not high fat.

Sorry if this is a dumb question, I just thought of it when I read the cream cheese label.<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif" border="0">
 

amber682

New member
Ok, quick question. I'll use my cream cheese I'm eating on my bagel as an example. It has 90 calories per serving, with 80 calories from fat. Does this mean that this cream cheese is almost entirely fat? Would my son would need more enzymes for this? If so, it doesn't seem like a very good choice, because the majority of it is fat, and people with CF and PI don't properly absorb fat, so a lot of it is wasted, no? I hope this is making some sense here.

I think we'd be better off with jelly, that has only 50 calories, but no fat. It also has a lot of carbs. Vincent's nutritionist is always pushing high calories and carbs, not high fat.

Sorry if this is a dumb question, I just thought of it when I read the cream cheese label.<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif" border="0">
 

batteredNfried

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Good example with the bagel and cream cheese.

I'll try to explain as best I can.

Cheese is mostly fat, which is something the body has difficulty absorbing. The enzyme that the body needs to break down fat is called lipase, which is one of the 3 components of the enzyme supplements CFers take. However, the amount of lipase in the enzyme supplements is pretty small compared to the enzymes that do the work of breaking down proteins and carbs.

So you are CORRECT when you say that cream cheese isn't a good choice. You are also correct to assume that more enzymes would be required to help digest it.

Complex carbohydrates are where the body gets most of its energy, (you've heard of athletes "carbo-loading" before a big event?) Jelly, although it has a lot of carbs has most of its carbs from fructose, which is fruit sugar. Fructose is not a complex carb, so it won't offer long term energy producing potential. But that's okay because the jelly is on a bagel, which is complex carbs.

Here's something that I like to do to maximize the calories, carbs and vitamins when I want a bagel.

Whole grain bagel (as opposed to a plain or egg bagel) with reduced fat chunky peanut butter.

The whole grains are complex carbs, chunky peanut butter has vitamin E and protein, and no trans fat. Compared to cheese, which is 89% fat, reduced fat peanut butter is only 60% fat. The peanut butter also has plenty of vitamins and minerals such as:

<UL>Folic acid
Vitamin B6 (riboflavin)
Niacin
Zinc
Magnesium</UL>
 

batteredNfried

New member
Good example with the bagel and cream cheese.

I'll try to explain as best I can.

Cheese is mostly fat, which is something the body has difficulty absorbing. The enzyme that the body needs to break down fat is called lipase, which is one of the 3 components of the enzyme supplements CFers take. However, the amount of lipase in the enzyme supplements is pretty small compared to the enzymes that do the work of breaking down proteins and carbs.

So you are CORRECT when you say that cream cheese isn't a good choice. You are also correct to assume that more enzymes would be required to help digest it.

Complex carbohydrates are where the body gets most of its energy, (you've heard of athletes "carbo-loading" before a big event?) Jelly, although it has a lot of carbs has most of its carbs from fructose, which is fruit sugar. Fructose is not a complex carb, so it won't offer long term energy producing potential. But that's okay because the jelly is on a bagel, which is complex carbs.

Here's something that I like to do to maximize the calories, carbs and vitamins when I want a bagel.

Whole grain bagel (as opposed to a plain or egg bagel) with reduced fat chunky peanut butter.

The whole grains are complex carbs, chunky peanut butter has vitamin E and protein, and no trans fat. Compared to cheese, which is 89% fat, reduced fat peanut butter is only 60% fat. The peanut butter also has plenty of vitamins and minerals such as:

<UL>Folic acid
Vitamin B6 (riboflavin)
Niacin
Zinc
Magnesium</UL>
 

batteredNfried

New member
Good example with the bagel and cream cheese.

I'll try to explain as best I can.

Cheese is mostly fat, which is something the body has difficulty absorbing. The enzyme that the body needs to break down fat is called lipase, which is one of the 3 components of the enzyme supplements CFers take. However, the amount of lipase in the enzyme supplements is pretty small compared to the enzymes that do the work of breaking down proteins and carbs.

So you are CORRECT when you say that cream cheese isn't a good choice. You are also correct to assume that more enzymes would be required to help digest it.

Complex carbohydrates are where the body gets most of its energy, (you've heard of athletes "carbo-loading" before a big event?) Jelly, although it has a lot of carbs has most of its carbs from fructose, which is fruit sugar. Fructose is not a complex carb, so it won't offer long term energy producing potential. But that's okay because the jelly is on a bagel, which is complex carbs.

Here's something that I like to do to maximize the calories, carbs and vitamins when I want a bagel.

Whole grain bagel (as opposed to a plain or egg bagel) with reduced fat chunky peanut butter.

The whole grains are complex carbs, chunky peanut butter has vitamin E and protein, and no trans fat. Compared to cheese, which is 89% fat, reduced fat peanut butter is only 60% fat. The peanut butter also has plenty of vitamins and minerals such as:

<UL>Folic acid
Vitamin B6 (riboflavin)
Niacin
Zinc
Magnesium</UL>
 

amber682

New member
Thank you for clearing that up for me. And I agree 100% on the peanut butter, in my opinion it should be one of the staples of any person w/ Cf's diet (assuming they're not allergic) because just a few bites pack so much nutrition. One of my favorite snacks to make Vinny is peanut butter balls, made with PB, honey, and powdered milk. No cooking involved, just mix and roll into balls. You can even add chopped nuts, or dip in melted chocolate.
 

amber682

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Thank you for clearing that up for me. And I agree 100% on the peanut butter, in my opinion it should be one of the staples of any person w/ Cf's diet (assuming they're not allergic) because just a few bites pack so much nutrition. One of my favorite snacks to make Vinny is peanut butter balls, made with PB, honey, and powdered milk. No cooking involved, just mix and roll into balls. You can even add chopped nuts, or dip in melted chocolate.
 

amber682

New member
Thank you for clearing that up for me. And I agree 100% on the peanut butter, in my opinion it should be one of the staples of any person w/ Cf's diet (assuming they're not allergic) because just a few bites pack so much nutrition. One of my favorite snacks to make Vinny is peanut butter balls, made with PB, honey, and powdered milk. No cooking involved, just mix and roll into balls. You can even add chopped nuts, or dip in melted chocolate.
 
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