It's not about being ignorant, it's about personally weighing risk vs reward, just like any activity. I know theres a very small chance that the roller coaster might derail and kill/seriously wound those on the coaster at the time, and I like to ride roller coasters. The risk is very negligible, so I will probably choose to ride that roller coaster. I realize that driving down the road without my seat belt on isn't a good choice because I am averse to turning into a human missle and seriously wounding/killing myself *IF* I happen to get into an accident. Most intelligent people realize that while the probability of them getting into an accident isn't huge, us not wearing our seatbelt and being unlucky or stupid enough to get into that accident isn't a good thing, so in turn we wear our seatbelt. As I said before, if you really want to go, go, because while I hate to see anything negative happen to another CF patient, you are still your own person, with the ability to weigh the risk vs reward. That has nothing to do with being American, or "Being ignorant", or implying that so and so said "don't go to Africa", which to me, it seemed she was stating the obvious risks involved with going. If you seriously think there isn't more risk in going to subsaharan Africa to help people, vs helping people domestically regardless where you are, you need to put back on your "safety helmet" while sitting at that PC.
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i need major advice about africa
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To mockingbird: Thank you
To Christian: I´m not at all "fear-filled" thinking of America, if you would read my posts you would know, I have been there several times and liked it very much!! But the things I mentioned are existing in America, even if you don´t want to hear that...
To SeanDavis: If you would have read also my first posting you should have seen, that I tried to mention the risks too, for example also to beware of moskitos and other insects because of the illnesses. And as you live in Florida, the west-Nile-Virus is existing there, the only prevention is to avoid moskitos, so be careful too...moskitos also fly in big cities,don´t they...
To Maggie: If you decide to go, be careful and good luck!
Uli,Germany
To Christian: I´m not at all "fear-filled" thinking of America, if you would read my posts you would know, I have been there several times and liked it very much!! But the things I mentioned are existing in America, even if you don´t want to hear that...
To SeanDavis: If you would have read also my first posting you should have seen, that I tried to mention the risks too, for example also to beware of moskitos and other insects because of the illnesses. And as you live in Florida, the west-Nile-Virus is existing there, the only prevention is to avoid moskitos, so be careful too...moskitos also fly in big cities,don´t they...
To Maggie: If you decide to go, be careful and good luck!
Uli,Germany
OMG!!!!!!!!! Maggie is young. She is looking to do something that SHE desires to do even tho her family has great concerns. She asked for THOUGHTS, OPINIONS, ADVICE & INFO not lectures to help her make the decision. Ultimately it is up to her. I would hope with every bit of my soul that she makes a very educated & responsible decision. Which decision that might be is not for me to decide if its right or wrong like its no one elses. Any trip has risks! Some moreso than others & some moreso for CFers than others! Present the info you know & leave it at that. Dont be so cruel & vicious about her thoughts of what she wants to do or where she wants to go! There seems to be a fine line between being concerned aout the well being of another CFer & dictating for some! Some ideas from other people here I think leave a lot to be desired at times, but I bite my tongue until it hurts then I let loose!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
christian, its not shallow american fear filled nonsense. its the truth. almost everyone, american or not, knows the health and safety risks in africa.
sean davis you forgot worms. so, has anyone watched the bodysnatchers series? worms worms everywhere. <a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.biosci.ohio-state.edu/~parasite/dracunculus.html">oh lookie here!</a> wow, scariest worm ive ever seen.
sean davis you forgot worms. so, has anyone watched the bodysnatchers series? worms worms everywhere. <a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.biosci.ohio-state.edu/~parasite/dracunculus.html">oh lookie here!</a> wow, scariest worm ive ever seen.
I decided to log on properly because I don't want to be known as "that lady"
Hey Sean Africa is not all that bad and South Africa is a great place. If I went anywhere north I would choose Tanzania its a beautiful place. By the way there are banks and even hospitals and houses etc.
Maggie if you really want to go, just make sure you have cleared it with your CF doctor first(that way I'm sure your family will feel better). You might want to take an extra course of antibiotics with you in case. Find out exactly where you will be and if there will be electricity (this is important if you're going to keep up with your CF routine. Ask a lot of questions so that you are not unprepared. Perhaps you should first build up your immune system and go for a shorter time.
You may find it a wonderful experience. P.S. if you ever want to visit SA my little home is always open.
Good luck
Hey Sean Africa is not all that bad and South Africa is a great place. If I went anywhere north I would choose Tanzania its a beautiful place. By the way there are banks and even hospitals and houses etc.
Maggie if you really want to go, just make sure you have cleared it with your CF doctor first(that way I'm sure your family will feel better). You might want to take an extra course of antibiotics with you in case. Find out exactly where you will be and if there will be electricity (this is important if you're going to keep up with your CF routine. Ask a lot of questions so that you are not unprepared. Perhaps you should first build up your immune system and go for a shorter time.
You may find it a wonderful experience. P.S. if you ever want to visit SA my little home is always open.
Good luck
wow, a lot of people have posted since i last came on...
Sean, thank you for your opinions, i dont agree with many of them but i will none the less take them into consideration.
Uli, thank you so much for the information and for letting me see that someone else with cf has been there! i will certainly keep in mind all the advice you gave me if i decide to go on this trip. finally, have fun in thailand!!!
Allie, i really appreciated your post, that quote says it perfectly.
Mockingbird, thanks...just thanks
Christian, i will definitly think about waiting and taking care of myself first.
Joanne, i will be in full communciation about cf with my doctors and the orginization. and thank you.
i was looking for opinions, advice, info, just like Melissa said and which many people have given, so to you i say thank you, i appreciate the help and i will let you know about what i decide!
Maggie 18w/cf
Sean, thank you for your opinions, i dont agree with many of them but i will none the less take them into consideration.
Uli, thank you so much for the information and for letting me see that someone else with cf has been there! i will certainly keep in mind all the advice you gave me if i decide to go on this trip. finally, have fun in thailand!!!
Allie, i really appreciated your post, that quote says it perfectly.
Mockingbird, thanks...just thanks
Christian, i will definitly think about waiting and taking care of myself first.
Joanne, i will be in full communciation about cf with my doctors and the orginization. and thank you.
i was looking for opinions, advice, info, just like Melissa said and which many people have given, so to you i say thank you, i appreciate the help and i will let you know about what i decide!
Maggie 18w/cf
JennifersHope
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Sean this may be my steroids talking but why do you always have to have the last word in????
This website is not meant to be so you can save the world....sometimes ppl are just sharing thoughts and not looking for you to protect or heal them....Just because you don't agree with someone doesn't mean you need to be so pushy.....You seem so pushy with your issues in all your posts.....herbs... africa.... .... You said what you thought..... and to me it feels like you are trying to make Maggie look like an idiot for wanting to do something....outside the US....
.... It is not so much what you say but how you say it....
Jennifer
This website is not meant to be so you can save the world....sometimes ppl are just sharing thoughts and not looking for you to protect or heal them....Just because you don't agree with someone doesn't mean you need to be so pushy.....You seem so pushy with your issues in all your posts.....herbs... africa.... .... You said what you thought..... and to me it feels like you are trying to make Maggie look like an idiot for wanting to do something....outside the US....
.... It is not so much what you say but how you say it....
Jennifer
Emily65Roses
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Just in case anyone plans on jumping down Jennifer's throat for that, I would like to back her up. You said what you wanted to say, Sean, Maggie heard it and said she'd take it into consideration. You don't need to keep going. There are a few people around here that think you have a bit of a need to have the last word.
Maggie, I don't know much of anything about this type of stuff. I say, if it's important to you, do it. Do what you want in life, no matter what other people think of it, as long as you're not raping or murdering. Just be careful as possible. Keep up your meds and therapies, and get whatever vaccines you might need, all that stuff.
Maggie, I don't know much of anything about this type of stuff. I say, if it's important to you, do it. Do what you want in life, no matter what other people think of it, as long as you're not raping or murdering. Just be careful as possible. Keep up your meds and therapies, and get whatever vaccines you might need, all that stuff.
JennifersHope
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Thanks Emily... I may have to adopt you as my little sister is you keep this up though... Your always making me laugh.. always supportive to everyone...
Jennifer
Jennifer
Emily65Roses
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<blockquote>Quote<br><hr><i>Originally posted by: <b>JennifersHope</b></i><br>always supportive to everyone... <hr></blockquote>
There are people, I'm sure, that would disagree with that. Hah. But I'm glad you think so. Hehehe.
There are people, I'm sure, that would disagree with that. Hah. But I'm glad you think so. Hehehe.
<blockquote>Quote<br><hr><i>Originally posted by: <b>JennifersHope</b></i><br>Sean this may be my steroids talking but why do you always have to have the last word in????
Jennifer<hr></blockquote>
My god some of you have some extremely drippy bottoms. It was a joke. I shall point out that I don't think Meerkats actually carry rocket launchers, and to the best of my knowlege don't spit on your shoes when you disrespect them. There, is that better? Don't understand how you guys would view that as a jab, i personally thought it would be funny if meerkats in Africa carried rocket launchers, they would match many of the armed militias roaming around. And as for the "Me wanting to save the world" snide comment, at last check, this was a message board for CF patients to discuss things and exchange information. I found something that has been extremely helpful for me, and me being my empathic humanitarian self with interest for other CF patients well being, shared my information. Several times i've seen someone ask "Hey I feel like crap, cultured this, what do you guys think, etc" questions, and I refered them to the oregano oil thread or other supplements that myself or others use. That makes me wanting to "save the world"? Aside from that, yeah I am pretty aggressive in real life when it comes to things that can be viewed as fairly serious. And correct me if i'm wrong, but aren't these message board "threads" that we create and respond to? A thread meaning, someone starts one, and people in turn respond. On here they are almost always advice threads, and i'll give my opinion on the matter like many of you do. If called out on my opinion, ill clarify it or defend it, just like many of you do.
My very last response to this was basically me expounding on my my belief that north/central Africa is a very dangerous place in general, and even more so for a CF patient. I related it to real life risk and reward judgement calls we make. With that said, just like some of you dislike me, I also feel a couple of you guys are out of touch with things in general, and live in carebear land. I came here with the sole purpose of trying to help others. My life carries on fine regardless what some nerf armor safety helmet wearing carebear thinks of me. When I read some responses on here jumping to conclusions over some of the things I have said, i start to understand why natural selection is still present in human beings.
Why ask for advice and expect nothing but fluffiness and rainbows? Yes I feel charity in general begins at home. And yes, I feel North/Central Africa is overall a very dangerous place in respect to human on human violence, and yes I feel that the parasites and microbes/viruses that can enter your body there are much worse than in most other non third world countries, and would be an unnecessary risk for a CF patient to take. If that makes me a grinch so be it. If it also makes me a grinch because me asking some guy who equated north/central Africa to "any large American city" in the same realm danger wise "Dude can I have some of what you are takin", then so be it. The other 99% of the internet I come from isn't encased in child profing protection.
Jennifer<hr></blockquote>
My god some of you have some extremely drippy bottoms. It was a joke. I shall point out that I don't think Meerkats actually carry rocket launchers, and to the best of my knowlege don't spit on your shoes when you disrespect them. There, is that better? Don't understand how you guys would view that as a jab, i personally thought it would be funny if meerkats in Africa carried rocket launchers, they would match many of the armed militias roaming around. And as for the "Me wanting to save the world" snide comment, at last check, this was a message board for CF patients to discuss things and exchange information. I found something that has been extremely helpful for me, and me being my empathic humanitarian self with interest for other CF patients well being, shared my information. Several times i've seen someone ask "Hey I feel like crap, cultured this, what do you guys think, etc" questions, and I refered them to the oregano oil thread or other supplements that myself or others use. That makes me wanting to "save the world"? Aside from that, yeah I am pretty aggressive in real life when it comes to things that can be viewed as fairly serious. And correct me if i'm wrong, but aren't these message board "threads" that we create and respond to? A thread meaning, someone starts one, and people in turn respond. On here they are almost always advice threads, and i'll give my opinion on the matter like many of you do. If called out on my opinion, ill clarify it or defend it, just like many of you do.
My very last response to this was basically me expounding on my my belief that north/central Africa is a very dangerous place in general, and even more so for a CF patient. I related it to real life risk and reward judgement calls we make. With that said, just like some of you dislike me, I also feel a couple of you guys are out of touch with things in general, and live in carebear land. I came here with the sole purpose of trying to help others. My life carries on fine regardless what some nerf armor safety helmet wearing carebear thinks of me. When I read some responses on here jumping to conclusions over some of the things I have said, i start to understand why natural selection is still present in human beings.
Why ask for advice and expect nothing but fluffiness and rainbows? Yes I feel charity in general begins at home. And yes, I feel North/Central Africa is overall a very dangerous place in respect to human on human violence, and yes I feel that the parasites and microbes/viruses that can enter your body there are much worse than in most other non third world countries, and would be an unnecessary risk for a CF patient to take. If that makes me a grinch so be it. If it also makes me a grinch because me asking some guy who equated north/central Africa to "any large American city" in the same realm danger wise "Dude can I have some of what you are takin", then so be it. The other 99% of the internet I come from isn't encased in child profing protection.
Emily65Roses
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<hr><i>Originally posted by: <b>SeanDavis</b></i>
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and live in carebear land.
Why ask for advice and expect nothing but fluffiness and rainbows? The other 99% of the internet I come from isn't encased in child profing protection.<hr></blockquote>
It's called Care-a-Lot.
And as far as rainbows go, not all of us are like that. I, for one, am very against things being sugarcoated. But there is a difference between stating the negative side of things and stating them over and over and over because you don't think the person who asked is going to listen to your advice. We are all here to ask for / give advice, you're right. But that doesn't mean it's always going to be taken. If someone says they disagree, but still thanks you for your opinion, leave it at that. You've done all you can do in that case.
<hr><i>Originally posted by: <b>SeanDavis</b></i>
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and live in carebear land.
Why ask for advice and expect nothing but fluffiness and rainbows? The other 99% of the internet I come from isn't encased in child profing protection.<hr></blockquote>
It's called Care-a-Lot.
And as far as rainbows go, not all of us are like that. I, for one, am very against things being sugarcoated. But there is a difference between stating the negative side of things and stating them over and over and over because you don't think the person who asked is going to listen to your advice. We are all here to ask for / give advice, you're right. But that doesn't mean it's always going to be taken. If someone says they disagree, but still thanks you for your opinion, leave it at that. You've done all you can do in that case.
This is a little off....
but my dad's boss went to Africa for a safari ( I know this is different than what you will be doing). Well he ate shell fish and contracted Hepititus. He later died of complications related to the Hep. If you do go, please be very careful and make good decisions. (unlike what his boss did).
Take care of yourself!!!
KELLI
but my dad's boss went to Africa for a safari ( I know this is different than what you will be doing). Well he ate shell fish and contracted Hepititus. He later died of complications related to the Hep. If you do go, please be very careful and make good decisions. (unlike what his boss did).
Take care of yourself!!!
KELLI
I would go if I were you. However, given my expereinces, I would take a medicine cabinet just in case you cought something that aggravated your CF. I would definily either take with you or take immediately upon your return antifungal meds. I caught 6 different paracites/fungi and my body did register a significant response to them until after having them 7 months, and then my kidneys failed. I had no idea i had the bugs till it was almost too late.
Good luck.
Post your pics from the trip.
Good luck.
Post your pics from the trip.
S
saltingmywounds
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<blockquote>Quote<br><hr><i>Originally posted by: <b>Anonymous</b></i><br>I would go if I were you. However, given my expereinces, I would take a medicine cabinet just in case you cought something that aggravated your CF. I would definily either take with you or take immediately upon your return antifungal meds. I caught 6 different paracites/fungi and my body did register a significant response to them until after having them 7 months, and then my kidneys failed. I had no idea i had the bugs till it was almost too late.
Good luck.
Post your pics from the trip.<hr></blockquote>
i will be taking lots and lots of just in case meds, and ill definitly post pictures! (if i go of course...)
Good luck.
Post your pics from the trip.<hr></blockquote>
i will be taking lots and lots of just in case meds, and ill definitly post pictures! (if i go of course...)