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is the vest any better than manual?
- Thread starter anonymous
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I have asked my sons nurse about this and she assures me that manual is just as effective as the vest, well for my son at least. The vest, I take it as a lifestyle thing, in that if you are on your own or time restricted, then yes, it would be good. The Americans swear by it, so i imagine that it would be very effective. Try and get a £12,000 vest of the N.H.S, and if you do give me a call. Incedently, where abouts in Scotland are you
Personally I don't think it is.
Look at life expectancies in various countries...some of the countries that don't use the vest have the highest.
We were told any method that is used regularly is as good as any other. The difference comes with compliance and compliance is better with the vest of course.
Personally I use the Acapella and find it to be the most effective thing for me. Partly because I use it daily....I did neither manual or the Vest on a daily basis....I hated the vest personally
Not to mention a lot of the studies on the vest that show it to be so much more effective were done by the vest companies! Biased a little? I think so
Look at life expectancies in various countries...some of the countries that don't use the vest have the highest.
We were told any method that is used regularly is as good as any other. The difference comes with compliance and compliance is better with the vest of course.
Personally I use the Acapella and find it to be the most effective thing for me. Partly because I use it daily....I did neither manual or the Vest on a daily basis....I hated the vest personally
Not to mention a lot of the studies on the vest that show it to be so much more effective were done by the vest companies! Biased a little? I think so
Quite honestly, I think statistics can show some important things, but there are people who like the vest and people who hate it.
If you love it, they you are going to use it regularly and it is productive for you. If you hate it, chances are you won't use it and then it becomes pointless and maybe even detrimental to your health because others "assume" you are doing your chest PT with the vest and don't think you need the manual anymore.
The huge benefits to it are that it takes less time to do the vest than manual chest PT. My husband was prescribed 1hr chest PT in the AM and 1 hr chest PT in the PM. That required time out of both of our busy schedules and required me or someone in the family who knows how to do chest PT-to be home.
With the vest, he does 20 minutes in the AM and 20 minutes in the PM and NOBOBY has to be home to help him. IT's really beneficial to us. He can still watch TV (and recently he's even mastered doing his homework while doing the vest, but don't ask me to read anything he's written because it doesn't make sense-scribbly all over the page) or do some other sedentary tasks while he is doing it. With manual Chest PT, all he could do was lay there for the PT.
If you are a person who dislikes the vest though, and many do, all those things I mentioned are pointless because you will dread doing it and likely not comply and not do it.
There are studies going on right now by accredited CF centers and some independent CF doctors/pulmonologists for the Vest. Mark was going to be part of it but they had already ordered his vest (he hadn't recieved it yet, mind you) so he couldn't qualify. But I assure you, there are independent studies ongoing and coming out right now.
If you love it, they you are going to use it regularly and it is productive for you. If you hate it, chances are you won't use it and then it becomes pointless and maybe even detrimental to your health because others "assume" you are doing your chest PT with the vest and don't think you need the manual anymore.
The huge benefits to it are that it takes less time to do the vest than manual chest PT. My husband was prescribed 1hr chest PT in the AM and 1 hr chest PT in the PM. That required time out of both of our busy schedules and required me or someone in the family who knows how to do chest PT-to be home.
With the vest, he does 20 minutes in the AM and 20 minutes in the PM and NOBOBY has to be home to help him. IT's really beneficial to us. He can still watch TV (and recently he's even mastered doing his homework while doing the vest, but don't ask me to read anything he's written because it doesn't make sense-scribbly all over the page) or do some other sedentary tasks while he is doing it. With manual Chest PT, all he could do was lay there for the PT.
If you are a person who dislikes the vest though, and many do, all those things I mentioned are pointless because you will dread doing it and likely not comply and not do it.
There are studies going on right now by accredited CF centers and some independent CF doctors/pulmonologists for the Vest. Mark was going to be part of it but they had already ordered his vest (he hadn't recieved it yet, mind you) so he couldn't qualify. But I assure you, there are independent studies ongoing and coming out right now.
thelizardqueen
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The only thing I know is that my physio guy said that the Acapella is better then the percussor, but I get benefits from both.
Hiya, just read your thread and i am from the uk and have got a brochure of such about the vest a company in London (i think) and they are selling them. a great £13000 yes thirteen thousand pounds. You won't get it on the NHS here. We are currently fundraising for the vest only started a2 weeks ago and have over £200 so only £12800 to go. Ha ha
Hi, well it's for my daughter not me!
But over Easter we raffled off a big egg and are holding a Casino night in aid of our daughter. Also friends of ours are getting married this year and are holding a raffle on the evening reception, So that should bring in fair amount too!
I've also mentioned it to all my friends who are in the process of thinking of things they can do to raise money.
But over Easter we raffled off a big egg and are holding a Casino night in aid of our daughter. Also friends of ours are getting married this year and are holding a raffle on the evening reception, So that should bring in fair amount too!
I've also mentioned it to all my friends who are in the process of thinking of things they can do to raise money.
thelizardqueen
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There's a woman in Ontario I believe who fundraised for her daughter to get a vest, as they aren't available in Canada. She did raise the money, and her daughter has the vest, but she said that it was so hard to do and so time consuming, that more then likely she would not do it again.
Guess I'll either have to wait forever and a day for the vest to become available in Canada, or simply stick to manual or the percussor. Both work perfectly for me.
Guess I'll either have to wait forever and a day for the vest to become available in Canada, or simply stick to manual or the percussor. Both work perfectly for me.