joint pain - help with diagnosis

seank

New member
Hello all. I'm the father of an 11 year old boy, Patrick, who has CF. I'm desperately looking for any help or ideas from people who have come across similar symptoms described below.

Patrick is a very active boy and fortunately his lungs and lung function tests are still in good shape.

However he is currently experiencing severe pain in many of his joints. In particular his back is bad (along the spine). He also has pain in his ankles, knees, and shoulders though not as bad as his back and can only walk 10 yards before he has to lie down due to the pain. He has had these symptoms for over a week without any sign of them abating. He has been on prednislone, naproxen & declofenac but so far these have not helped. There are no obvious signs of swelling at his joints.

Other symptoms include:
* burning sensation on the skin of his face, which comes and goes
* a red 'patch' or rash on his elbows and shoulders which comes and goes
* After the 5th day of symptoms, Patrick's condition suddenly got worse with a severe and sudden increase in pain (this came about 30 minutes after eating a large dinner). At the same time his pain increased, red patches flared up immediately on his elbows, shoulder and the top of his thigh. After about 45 minutes the pain and red patches calmed down. Then Patrick was physically sick, which triggered an immediate increase in pain and also the red patches immediately flared up. The pain and patches subsided again after 30 minutes.

His spine is very sensitive to even the gentlest of touches.

So far, the doctors have been unable to find out what is the problem. They were surprised the anti inflammatories and steroids have had no effect as I think they suspected Arthropy, even though his lungs are in good shape (also no sign of a cough or wheeze).

I would be very grateful for any of your ideas regarding what might be causing the above especially any comments from those of you unlucky enough to have experienced similar symptoms.

Thanks and regards

Sean

PS This is a great forum that I accidentally stumbled across.
 

seank

New member
Hello all. I'm the father of an 11 year old boy, Patrick, who has CF. I'm desperately looking for any help or ideas from people who have come across similar symptoms described below.

Patrick is a very active boy and fortunately his lungs and lung function tests are still in good shape.

However he is currently experiencing severe pain in many of his joints. In particular his back is bad (along the spine). He also has pain in his ankles, knees, and shoulders though not as bad as his back and can only walk 10 yards before he has to lie down due to the pain. He has had these symptoms for over a week without any sign of them abating. He has been on prednislone, naproxen & declofenac but so far these have not helped. There are no obvious signs of swelling at his joints.

Other symptoms include:
* burning sensation on the skin of his face, which comes and goes
* a red 'patch' or rash on his elbows and shoulders which comes and goes
* After the 5th day of symptoms, Patrick's condition suddenly got worse with a severe and sudden increase in pain (this came about 30 minutes after eating a large dinner). At the same time his pain increased, red patches flared up immediately on his elbows, shoulder and the top of his thigh. After about 45 minutes the pain and red patches calmed down. Then Patrick was physically sick, which triggered an immediate increase in pain and also the red patches immediately flared up. The pain and patches subsided again after 30 minutes.

His spine is very sensitive to even the gentlest of touches.

So far, the doctors have been unable to find out what is the problem. They were surprised the anti inflammatories and steroids have had no effect as I think they suspected Arthropy, even though his lungs are in good shape (also no sign of a cough or wheeze).

I would be very grateful for any of your ideas regarding what might be causing the above especially any comments from those of you unlucky enough to have experienced similar symptoms.

Thanks and regards

Sean

PS This is a great forum that I accidentally stumbled across.
 

seank

New member
Hello all. I'm the father of an 11 year old boy, Patrick, who has CF. I'm desperately looking for any help or ideas from people who have come across similar symptoms described below.

Patrick is a very active boy and fortunately his lungs and lung function tests are still in good shape.

However he is currently experiencing severe pain in many of his joints. In particular his back is bad (along the spine). He also has pain in his ankles, knees, and shoulders though not as bad as his back and can only walk 10 yards before he has to lie down due to the pain. He has had these symptoms for over a week without any sign of them abating. He has been on prednislone, naproxen & declofenac but so far these have not helped. There are no obvious signs of swelling at his joints.

Other symptoms include:
* burning sensation on the skin of his face, which comes and goes
* a red 'patch' or rash on his elbows and shoulders which comes and goes
* After the 5th day of symptoms, Patrick's condition suddenly got worse with a severe and sudden increase in pain (this came about 30 minutes after eating a large dinner). At the same time his pain increased, red patches flared up immediately on his elbows, shoulder and the top of his thigh. After about 45 minutes the pain and red patches calmed down. Then Patrick was physically sick, which triggered an immediate increase in pain and also the red patches immediately flared up. The pain and patches subsided again after 30 minutes.

His spine is very sensitive to even the gentlest of touches.

So far, the doctors have been unable to find out what is the problem. They were surprised the anti inflammatories and steroids have had no effect as I think they suspected Arthropy, even though his lungs are in good shape (also no sign of a cough or wheeze).

I would be very grateful for any of your ideas regarding what might be causing the above especially any comments from those of you unlucky enough to have experienced similar symptoms.

Thanks and regards

Sean

PS This is a great forum that I accidentally stumbled across.
 

10forever

New member
Hi Mr.Sean !
I am only 10 years old but i have been having pains in my knee caps and sometimes throuh my back for no reason. But my doctor told me that even when you'r a kid you can get arthritis. now im not saying that is what you'r child has but it's an idea. The rashes i don't know what that is. but if his legs are hurting try laying him down on the couch and tell him to pretend hes peddling a bike in mid air! My doctor told me to do that! well I hope my advice is good! bye and good luck<img src="i/expressions/heart.gif" border="0">
 

10forever

New member
Hi Mr.Sean !
I am only 10 years old but i have been having pains in my knee caps and sometimes throuh my back for no reason. But my doctor told me that even when you'r a kid you can get arthritis. now im not saying that is what you'r child has but it's an idea. The rashes i don't know what that is. but if his legs are hurting try laying him down on the couch and tell him to pretend hes peddling a bike in mid air! My doctor told me to do that! well I hope my advice is good! bye and good luck<img src="i/expressions/heart.gif" border="0">
 

10forever

New member
Hi Mr.Sean !
I am only 10 years old but i have been having pains in my knee caps and sometimes throuh my back for no reason. But my doctor told me that even when you'r a kid you can get arthritis. now im not saying that is what you'r child has but it's an idea. The rashes i don't know what that is. but if his legs are hurting try laying him down on the couch and tell him to pretend hes peddling a bike in mid air! My doctor told me to do that! well I hope my advice is good! bye and good luck<img src="i/expressions/heart.gif" border="0">
 

seank

New member
Hi Alexis

Thanks very much for your reply. Patrick is a lot better now. They tried him on some anti-histamanes and he got better several days later. We're not sure whether or not it was the tablets that helped or if it was just his body working its way through it all.

I hope everything is going well for you - the next time Patrick gets bad I'm going to tell him to ride a bike while lying down!

Thanks again

Sean
 

seank

New member
Hi Alexis

Thanks very much for your reply. Patrick is a lot better now. They tried him on some anti-histamanes and he got better several days later. We're not sure whether or not it was the tablets that helped or if it was just his body working its way through it all.

I hope everything is going well for you - the next time Patrick gets bad I'm going to tell him to ride a bike while lying down!

Thanks again

Sean
 

seank

New member
Hi Alexis

Thanks very much for your reply. Patrick is a lot better now. They tried him on some anti-histamanes and he got better several days later. We're not sure whether or not it was the tablets that helped or if it was just his body working its way through it all.

I hope everything is going well for you - the next time Patrick gets bad I'm going to tell him to ride a bike while lying down!

Thanks again

Sean
 

robert321

New member
hey, it's a little late to help much but if it happens again, see about his vitamin levels, it sounds to me he is short on his vitamin k and stuff, the fat souluble vitamins aren't easily digested by people with cf so they made ADEK tablets, the fat soulable vitamins, it may be something as simple as that, i don't think its arthritis because of the other symptoms besides the sore joints and it all went away at the same time, i do things like that when i start straying from my meds, it gets me to do them again pretty fast, that hurts, did he start brusing really easy too? the anti histamines helping doesn't really point to vitamin deficency but vitamins, or lack there of, can really mess you up
 

robert321

New member
hey, it's a little late to help much but if it happens again, see about his vitamin levels, it sounds to me he is short on his vitamin k and stuff, the fat souluble vitamins aren't easily digested by people with cf so they made ADEK tablets, the fat soulable vitamins, it may be something as simple as that, i don't think its arthritis because of the other symptoms besides the sore joints and it all went away at the same time, i do things like that when i start straying from my meds, it gets me to do them again pretty fast, that hurts, did he start brusing really easy too? the anti histamines helping doesn't really point to vitamin deficency but vitamins, or lack there of, can really mess you up
 

robert321

New member
hey, it's a little late to help much but if it happens again, see about his vitamin levels, it sounds to me he is short on his vitamin k and stuff, the fat souluble vitamins aren't easily digested by people with cf so they made ADEK tablets, the fat soulable vitamins, it may be something as simple as that, i don't think its arthritis because of the other symptoms besides the sore joints and it all went away at the same time, i do things like that when i start straying from my meds, it gets me to do them again pretty fast, that hurts, did he start brusing really easy too? the anti histamines helping doesn't really point to vitamin deficency but vitamins, or lack there of, can really mess you up
 

Lance2020x

New member
It sounds to my like either an allergic reaction or a lack of vitamins. The red patches and the fact that everything flaired up after he had something to eat... I would check that. But mostly talk to his doctors, and make sure they find the solution instead of just treating the symptoms.<br><br>I've had back/knee problems for years. Mainly upper back and lower back, but I've always assumed that was because of my old career as a dancer.
 

Lance2020x

New member
It sounds to my like either an allergic reaction or a lack of vitamins. The red patches and the fact that everything flaired up after he had something to eat... I would check that. But mostly talk to his doctors, and make sure they find the solution instead of just treating the symptoms.<br><br>I've had back/knee problems for years. Mainly upper back and lower back, but I've always assumed that was because of my old career as a dancer.
 

Lance2020x

New member
It sounds to my like either an allergic reaction or a lack of vitamins. The red patches and the fact that everything flaired up after he had something to eat... I would check that. But mostly talk to his doctors, and make sure they find the solution instead of just treating the symptoms.<br><br>I've had back/knee problems for years. Mainly upper back and lower back, but I've always assumed that was because of my old career as a dancer.
 
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