Maximum enzymes

rosesixtyfive

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Sam is taking 5 pancreab-4 with each meal, and recently has had bowel movements which suggest he needs more. I started giving him 6, but his clinic told us to cut back to 5 because that is his maximum. We go to see them on Thursday and they will test his stool to see what is going on. He did do better with 6. I thought you couldn't overdose on enzymes. Anyone else had this situation? I was thinking of giving him mango with his meals because those have enzymes. It is frightening to reach the end of what science can do to help him absorb food. I just won't settle for that as an answer. Do you know what happens when they reach their maximum amount of enzymes?
Thanks,
rosesixtyfive, mother of Sam (7 months), ddf508, and Robin, (4 years old), no CF
 

rosesixtyfive

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Sam is taking 5 pancreab-4 with each meal, and recently has had bowel movements which suggest he needs more. I started giving him 6, but his clinic told us to cut back to 5 because that is his maximum. We go to see them on Thursday and they will test his stool to see what is going on. He did do better with 6. I thought you couldn't overdose on enzymes. Anyone else had this situation? I was thinking of giving him mango with his meals because those have enzymes. It is frightening to reach the end of what science can do to help him absorb food. I just won't settle for that as an answer. Do you know what happens when they reach their maximum amount of enzymes?
Thanks,
rosesixtyfive, mother of Sam (7 months), ddf508, and Robin, (4 years old), no CF
 

rosesixtyfive

New member
Sam is taking 5 pancreab-4 with each meal, and recently has had bowel movements which suggest he needs more. I started giving him 6, but his clinic told us to cut back to 5 because that is his maximum. We go to see them on Thursday and they will test his stool to see what is going on. He did do better with 6. I thought you couldn't overdose on enzymes. Anyone else had this situation? I was thinking of giving him mango with his meals because those have enzymes. It is frightening to reach the end of what science can do to help him absorb food. I just won't settle for that as an answer. Do you know what happens when they reach their maximum amount of enzymes?
Thanks,
rosesixtyfive, mother of Sam (7 months), ddf508, and Robin, (4 years old), no CF
 

rosesixtyfive

New member
Sam is taking 5 pancreab-4 with each meal, and recently has had bowel movements which suggest he needs more. I started giving him 6, but his clinic told us to cut back to 5 because that is his maximum. We go to see them on Thursday and they will test his stool to see what is going on. He did do better with 6. I thought you couldn't overdose on enzymes. Anyone else had this situation? I was thinking of giving him mango with his meals because those have enzymes. It is frightening to reach the end of what science can do to help him absorb food. I just won't settle for that as an answer. Do you know what happens when they reach their maximum amount of enzymes?
Thanks,
rosesixtyfive, mother of Sam (7 months), ddf508, and Robin, (4 years old), no CF
 

rosesixtyfive

New member
Sam is taking 5 pancreab-4 with each meal, and recently has had bowel movements which suggest he needs more. I started giving him 6, but his clinic told us to cut back to 5 because that is his maximum. We go to see them on Thursday and they will test his stool to see what is going on. He did do better with 6. I thought you couldn't overdose on enzymes. Anyone else had this situation? I was thinking of giving him mango with his meals because those have enzymes. It is frightening to reach the end of what science can do to help him absorb food. I just won't settle for that as an answer. Do you know what happens when they reach their maximum amount of enzymes?
<br />Thanks,
<br />rosesixtyfive, mother of Sam (7 months), ddf508, and Robin, (4 years old), no CF
 

SadiesMom

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I would like an answer to this too. Sadie takes 3 or 4 creon-6 with each meal and I've been hesitant to up it. I know 20 per day is her max, but no one said if there was a max per meal.
 

SadiesMom

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I would like an answer to this too. Sadie takes 3 or 4 creon-6 with each meal and I've been hesitant to up it. I know 20 per day is her max, but no one said if there was a max per meal.
 

SadiesMom

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I would like an answer to this too. Sadie takes 3 or 4 creon-6 with each meal and I've been hesitant to up it. I know 20 per day is her max, but no one said if there was a max per meal.
 

SadiesMom

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I would like an answer to this too. Sadie takes 3 or 4 creon-6 with each meal and I've been hesitant to up it. I know 20 per day is her max, but no one said if there was a max per meal.
 

SadiesMom

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I would like an answer to this too. Sadie takes 3 or 4 creon-6 with each meal and I've been hesitant to up it. I know 20 per day is her max, but no one said if there was a max per meal.
 

hmw

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If someone does reach the max amount of one particular type of enzyme and still shows evidence of malabsorption, they can change what type of enzyme they give him; different brands vary in their composition. They can also try adding an antacid, since those can also help the enzymes work more effectively.

It's very, VERY unlikely that he's reached the 'end' of what can be done for him digestively speaking... I wouldn't worry yet, esp if this is the first enzyme he has been on. And yes, it does take a very large amount of enzymes to truly 'overdose' on them. That said, most drs/nutritionists do try to work within a 'formula' of a certain amount. Who knows how they come up with their amount though, since you'd see how widely it varies if you did a 'poll' here on enzyme dosing!

Keep in mind as well that he's at an age where his diet will be undergoing a lot of changes in upcoming months: adding more solids, gradually decreasing formula or breastmilk, stools often change with the introductions of new foods... you'll have the added 'fun' of determining appropriate enzyme amounts for solid-food meals as well. So it's tricky... you'll always want to keep in the back of your mind any other possible reasons for stool issues other than the obvious cf-related ones.

I wish the best and hope this resolves soon for Sam! Adding a solid w/ natural enzyme properties does seem like a good idea, btw, if he likes it. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

eta> Emily's consumption at one sitting varies widely, since what she has varies so much, unlike a baby who has the same thing nearly every time. We have guidelines for what to give her for various snacks and meals and a daily max. I *think* her weight figures into the quick math I've seen her dr. do in figuring it out. She weighs in the high 40's most of the time and her max is 20 Creon 12's a day. She also takes Prevacid twice a day.
 

hmw

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If someone does reach the max amount of one particular type of enzyme and still shows evidence of malabsorption, they can change what type of enzyme they give him; different brands vary in their composition. They can also try adding an antacid, since those can also help the enzymes work more effectively.

It's very, VERY unlikely that he's reached the 'end' of what can be done for him digestively speaking... I wouldn't worry yet, esp if this is the first enzyme he has been on. And yes, it does take a very large amount of enzymes to truly 'overdose' on them. That said, most drs/nutritionists do try to work within a 'formula' of a certain amount. Who knows how they come up with their amount though, since you'd see how widely it varies if you did a 'poll' here on enzyme dosing!

Keep in mind as well that he's at an age where his diet will be undergoing a lot of changes in upcoming months: adding more solids, gradually decreasing formula or breastmilk, stools often change with the introductions of new foods... you'll have the added 'fun' of determining appropriate enzyme amounts for solid-food meals as well. So it's tricky... you'll always want to keep in the back of your mind any other possible reasons for stool issues other than the obvious cf-related ones.

I wish the best and hope this resolves soon for Sam! Adding a solid w/ natural enzyme properties does seem like a good idea, btw, if he likes it. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

eta> Emily's consumption at one sitting varies widely, since what she has varies so much, unlike a baby who has the same thing nearly every time. We have guidelines for what to give her for various snacks and meals and a daily max. I *think* her weight figures into the quick math I've seen her dr. do in figuring it out. She weighs in the high 40's most of the time and her max is 20 Creon 12's a day. She also takes Prevacid twice a day.
 

hmw

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If someone does reach the max amount of one particular type of enzyme and still shows evidence of malabsorption, they can change what type of enzyme they give him; different brands vary in their composition. They can also try adding an antacid, since those can also help the enzymes work more effectively.

It's very, VERY unlikely that he's reached the 'end' of what can be done for him digestively speaking... I wouldn't worry yet, esp if this is the first enzyme he has been on. And yes, it does take a very large amount of enzymes to truly 'overdose' on them. That said, most drs/nutritionists do try to work within a 'formula' of a certain amount. Who knows how they come up with their amount though, since you'd see how widely it varies if you did a 'poll' here on enzyme dosing!

Keep in mind as well that he's at an age where his diet will be undergoing a lot of changes in upcoming months: adding more solids, gradually decreasing formula or breastmilk, stools often change with the introductions of new foods... you'll have the added 'fun' of determining appropriate enzyme amounts for solid-food meals as well. So it's tricky... you'll always want to keep in the back of your mind any other possible reasons for stool issues other than the obvious cf-related ones.

I wish the best and hope this resolves soon for Sam! Adding a solid w/ natural enzyme properties does seem like a good idea, btw, if he likes it. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

eta> Emily's consumption at one sitting varies widely, since what she has varies so much, unlike a baby who has the same thing nearly every time. We have guidelines for what to give her for various snacks and meals and a daily max. I *think* her weight figures into the quick math I've seen her dr. do in figuring it out. She weighs in the high 40's most of the time and her max is 20 Creon 12's a day. She also takes Prevacid twice a day.
 

hmw

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If someone does reach the max amount of one particular type of enzyme and still shows evidence of malabsorption, they can change what type of enzyme they give him; different brands vary in their composition. They can also try adding an antacid, since those can also help the enzymes work more effectively.

It's very, VERY unlikely that he's reached the 'end' of what can be done for him digestively speaking... I wouldn't worry yet, esp if this is the first enzyme he has been on. And yes, it does take a very large amount of enzymes to truly 'overdose' on them. That said, most drs/nutritionists do try to work within a 'formula' of a certain amount. Who knows how they come up with their amount though, since you'd see how widely it varies if you did a 'poll' here on enzyme dosing!

Keep in mind as well that he's at an age where his diet will be undergoing a lot of changes in upcoming months: adding more solids, gradually decreasing formula or breastmilk, stools often change with the introductions of new foods... you'll have the added 'fun' of determining appropriate enzyme amounts for solid-food meals as well. So it's tricky... you'll always want to keep in the back of your mind any other possible reasons for stool issues other than the obvious cf-related ones.

I wish the best and hope this resolves soon for Sam! Adding a solid w/ natural enzyme properties does seem like a good idea, btw, if he likes it. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

eta> Emily's consumption at one sitting varies widely, since what she has varies so much, unlike a baby who has the same thing nearly every time. We have guidelines for what to give her for various snacks and meals and a daily max. I *think* her weight figures into the quick math I've seen her dr. do in figuring it out. She weighs in the high 40's most of the time and her max is 20 Creon 12's a day. She also takes Prevacid twice a day.
 

hmw

New member
If someone does reach the max amount of one particular type of enzyme and still shows evidence of malabsorption, they can change what type of enzyme they give him; different brands vary in their composition. They can also try adding an antacid, since those can also help the enzymes work more effectively.
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<br />It's very, VERY unlikely that he's reached the 'end' of what can be done for him digestively speaking... I wouldn't worry yet, esp if this is the first enzyme he has been on. And yes, it does take a very large amount of enzymes to truly 'overdose' on them. That said, most drs/nutritionists do try to work within a 'formula' of a certain amount. Who knows how they come up with their amount though, since you'd see how widely it varies if you did a 'poll' here on enzyme dosing!
<br />
<br />Keep in mind as well that he's at an age where his diet will be undergoing a lot of changes in upcoming months: adding more solids, gradually decreasing formula or breastmilk, stools often change with the introductions of new foods... you'll have the added 'fun' of determining appropriate enzyme amounts for solid-food meals as well. So it's tricky... you'll always want to keep in the back of your mind any other possible reasons for stool issues other than the obvious cf-related ones.
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<br />I wish the best and hope this resolves soon for Sam! Adding a solid w/ natural enzyme properties does seem like a good idea, btw, if he likes it. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">
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<br />eta> Emily's consumption at one sitting varies widely, since what she has varies so much, unlike a baby who has the same thing nearly every time. We have guidelines for what to give her for various snacks and meals and a daily max. I *think* her weight figures into the quick math I've seen her dr. do in figuring it out. She weighs in the high 40's most of the time and her max is 20 Creon 12's a day. She also takes Prevacid twice a day.
 

PatrickM

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My experience has been that the enzymes come in different strengths or concentrations. For example when my son was a baby he took Creon 5, then Creon 10 and now at 13 he takes Creon 24. We were also told when my son was about 3 years old to add prevacid. We were told it changes the acidity in the stomach to allow the Creon to work better.
 

PatrickM

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My experience has been that the enzymes come in different strengths or concentrations. For example when my son was a baby he took Creon 5, then Creon 10 and now at 13 he takes Creon 24. We were also told when my son was about 3 years old to add prevacid. We were told it changes the acidity in the stomach to allow the Creon to work better.
 

PatrickM

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My experience has been that the enzymes come in different strengths or concentrations. For example when my son was a baby he took Creon 5, then Creon 10 and now at 13 he takes Creon 24. We were also told when my son was about 3 years old to add prevacid. We were told it changes the acidity in the stomach to allow the Creon to work better.
 

PatrickM

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My experience has been that the enzymes come in different strengths or concentrations. For example when my son was a baby he took Creon 5, then Creon 10 and now at 13 he takes Creon 24. We were also told when my son was about 3 years old to add prevacid. We were told it changes the acidity in the stomach to allow the Creon to work better.
 

PatrickM

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My experience has been that the enzymes come in different strengths or concentrations. For example when my son was a baby he took Creon 5, then Creon 10 and now at 13 he takes Creon 24. We were also told when my son was about 3 years old to add prevacid. We were told it changes the acidity in the stomach to allow the Creon to work better.
 
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