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butterfly31079

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Hello,
My name is Selina Stevens I’m 20 years old and I am from Georgia I also have cystic fibrosis. And I was reading what every one was asking and saying. I have been engaged for 3 years. It’s really emotional when he has to work and I am in the hospital and he can only come and see me when he has time off. Or I am sick and I can’t do the things he likes. But he tries to understand. But He and I have had our trouble. And we were hoping to get married. But I was told that if I got married they could possibly take my Medicaid away from me. But how does other Cf people get married while there husband makes my Medicaid away . or his insurace wouldnt cover me and my hosptial bills because walmart insurance wont work with it. I even tried working for a little while and they were taking my Disability check away. Can any one give me any tips? My e-mail is selinastevens@alltel.net
I have yahoo and msn messenger
Yahoo id: just_another_angel4you2003
Msn id: SelinaMandler@hotmail.com

Thanks a lot
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anonymous

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The best thing to do is to get married or say vows but never sign legal papers for the government to say your married. Make sense? It truely is better to stay single in the governments eyes if you are to sick to work.

I learned the hard way. If you want to know more of my personal experience on this issue email me at akcooper_01@hotmail.com. I'd rather not spill tons of stuff on here and get in trouble or yelled at by someone on here who does not agree by what we were forced to do

If you are going to get married "legally" :

My hubby works for wal mart and his insurance picked me up...in gergria is it blue cross? They have a clause that says medicaid is a form of previous insurance on you so they will pick you up. But be aware you have to get forms and proof that you were previously covered so they won't drop you. Also get all packets on their insurance and everything so you know excatly what they cover and how much. As of last year the blue cross insurance here that covers wal mart sucked...it used to be good and by no means is it wal marts fault it is the insurance that covers them.....anyway see when open enrollment is get your fiance on it. as soon as he is on it he can add a spouse as soon as you are married. If his wal mart insurance is anything like ours your perscription co-pays alone will put you in the poor house. So calculate co pays on your meds and if you were to get a job if you could get on insurance then or if you could afford co pays if you got a job and if you can handle a full time job or part time.

Medicaid and SSI/SSD vary state to state but usually getting married makes you loose it. Or in time you will. THey consider a married couple as if they were one person with all that income and practically no bills...yes they fiugre things just that stupidly.

The sad thing is your best bet for medical coverage and maybe even finacial help is to stay single. Maybe just live together. If your morals are comprimised by that see about getting married just by the church (or take vows if you are not religous) and not sign the legal government papers you have to sign to get married. But most churches will not marry you until you sign those papers because i think its illegal for them too (what happened to seperation of church and state there..jk) All i am trying to say is that many people have gotten married only to have to get a divorce to get medical help through the government because there was no other way. No insurance and no money and a spouse was really sick. I know couples who the spouse got cancer and this being an elderly couple didn't have good insurance coverage and the government wouldn't help them because they "had to much money". So they got a "divorce" and viola the spouse gets medical coverage and was able to afford chemo, and yes tehy still lived together. They say they are still married in God's eyes and in their hearts the government can't tell them who they can or can not love but they sure do make it hard to live when you get sick.

Anyway I have some life stories and experience if your intersted. Thats just a tid bit of what i know. I am so sorry that it is this way but it is and it will continue to be that way until we see a politician who grew up poor and had a sick family member. Don't let this stop you from loving your fiance and being with him. You can find a way. There is always a way for love its just not easy.
Amanda
 

MarkR

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Hi Salina

I'm on SSI and have been since '86 . I got married in '90 and they didn't take mine away. In fact you should qualify for Medicare A and B. And if your soon to bee Husband has insurance coverage it should pick you up. You should give them a call and find out what will happen if you get married and go from there
 

anonymous

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Hi Selina,

I just wanted to throw my 2 cents worth in as I see this from 2 different angles. I am not an adult with CF, however I do have 2 children with CF and I work in medical underwriting for a major insurance company so I know the insurance industry pretty well. I also had to weigh the marriage issue at one time. I had 3 children, 2 with CF, as I said. Their father was very abusive to me and I finally, after 10 years, managed to get out of the relationship alive and with my children (not much else, but the children were all I really wanted). I got the children on medicaid which worked out well, since I didn't have to worry about copays or anything. However, later on I met a very nice man who treated us very well and wanted to get married...Of course that threatened the medicaid for the girls. It worked out for me because I landed the job at the insurance company so the girls would be very well covered and really didn't need the medicaid. If I ever quit or lose my job, I'll probably have to get legally divorced so the girls can get medicaid again because I don't think I could find another insurance policy like I have now. I know that really sucks to say and even more to have to do, but this is the world we live in and we are forced to make choices that we don't necessarily like. I agree with the other posters who say that maybe you should only have a ceremony to be married but not do it legally. It's a hard pill to swallow that the world forces you to do that, but having lived with CF for 20 years already, you've probably swallowed some pretty hard pills as it is.

As far as the insurance goes, it really depends so much on the employer and the insurance they offer. One thing to keep in mind is that most large companies, ie Target, Walmart, etc... are self-ensured, meaning that they write their own insurance policy. (MOST...not necessarily all)...The company they hire to administer their benefits, ie, Blue Cross, HealthPartners, Medica, etc, simply do just that...administer the benefits according to what the company chooses to have. The actual insurance company does not set the benefits, the employer does. I didn't know that until I started this job a few years ago. Also many large groups like that do not have pre-existing clauses so they do not consider your health history when adding you to a policy. You'd have to verify with the insurance company whether his particular employer does have one.

All that totally changes when you go to work for a smaller employer (less than 50 employees). They are usually fully-ensured, which means that the insurance company such as Blue Cross or Medica actually does determine the benefits and they do have pre-existing clauses. However, as someone mentioned before, medicaid is considered a previous insurance and if you've been covered for at least a year, they cannot put you under a pre-exist clause, so they cannot deny you or your claims due to your illness. This is a federal law, so it does not matter what state you live in. Unless you have no insurance coverage for 63 days or more, they cannot put you under a pre-exist clause. However, that being said, you may get the insurance, but in my opinion, you probably won't find insurance through an employer that will cover you as well as medicaid does. Of course I don't know the medicaid program in Georgia, so I am just assuming that they cover everything you need. With an employer's insurance you're likely to have considerable copays for prescriptions that you probably don't have now. Also, you have to consider the lifetime maximum of the policy. Most non-government insurances policies have a lifetime max of 1, 2 or 3 million dollars. Sounds like a lot, but with the expenses we all know are involved here and the fact that CF patients are living much longer these days, and that is going to continue to improve, those bills can really add up...It would really suck to work so hard to keep yourself healthy and live to be 75, only to have your insurance company drop you like a hot potato because you've exhausted your benefits. And they will do it...

I wish you the best and I know what an emotional experience this is and how unfair the system is. And things are more complicated by insurance laws and clauses that seem to be beyond understanding. I still learn new things every single day that just blow my mind. The loopholes that are out there...things like that. Everyone's out to protect themselves, whether it's an employer or an insurance company. And if you don't fight for yourself, you'll get lost in the shuffle. It's unfair and unfortunate. But knowledge is power, so learn everything you can about the policy you would be taking before even risking the medicaid. Sorry for rambling....I guess this is still more of an emotional issue for me than I realized...:)

Take Care,
Renee
 
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