opinions on homeschooling

anonymous

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I have 2 daughters (8yrs just diagnosed wcf & 6yrs no cf). Before the diagnosis I was already thinking about homeschooling but had so far decided against it. Now with the diagnosis I am seriously considering it. It would keep her away from germs (at least some), we wouldn't be rushed in the Am with treatment and trying to get to school on time. We could shift our whole schedule to a little later in the day (sleep late, go to bed later) so they could have more time with their dad in the evenings. I would be sure to get them in extracurricular activities so they could still be with their friends.

Were any of you CFers homeschooled? Did you wish you went to "regular" school? I want to make a rational decision, but I am still running on emotion right now!
 

Allie

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The one problem with homeschooling is it's harder to get a college education due to the non-standardized grades. Just a thought.

Other than that, all I can tell you is my husband went to public school and liked it.
 

lflatford

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Hey there,
If you were already thinking about it then I would assume you have more reason to do so know. Here are a few things I would keep in mind if I were you. If you do homeschool, then make sure your children have other outlets to socialize and feel normal. Will you homeschool your non CF child too? If it were me I would be worried that my non Cf child would end up resenting my CF child for keeping them from going to regular school? Another thing to keep in mind is, I am a high school teacher and you would be surprised how many first time schoolers we get as freshman. What happens is their parent gets overwhelmed with the curriculum and decides to send them to regular school. As freshman they are completely new to school and the teen years are tough enough without adding to it the fact that this their very first step into a public school setting.
I am not saying what you should do, but giving you some things to think about. A lot of times this topic comes up on the forum and it ends up out of hand. Just remember the health of your child should be of number one importance. My daughter for example is very healthy so far, so we plan on sending her to school. However if one day she got worse and keeping her at home would be beneficial I would absolutely do so.

Good Luck!
 

rachel123

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hi in 20 and i went to school, it was hard to get up early and do all my treatment before school but it was worth it iv met some of my best friends there who have helped me through alot. it was also hard trying to avoid colds and things like that but i never realy suffered from it. i can remember even when all my family had colds and flu like symptoms i would somehow avoid them, prob all the medication, i think school was the most important and enjoyable part of my life so far. i never got treated any differant. i also had a physio at school at one point in a little private room so no one new so if your worried about your daughter missing treatment there help out there. i no you'll no whats best for her i just wanted to share my experince of school with cf.
 

JazzysMom

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Looking back on things 20 years after graduation.....I wouldnt change a thing. I went to a small school which made it much easier for me & my family. I got sick & had a few admissions over the years, but the friends & experiences made it all worthwhile. When/where I was growing up we didnt have any organized sports. We did have girlscouts which I was a part of, but we were limited so I would have been quite the brat without my school socialization. I personally dont believe in it whether the child has CF or not, but then I guess I wont be homeschooling my daughter. Your choice is up to you. You might find the pros outway the cons by a landslide.
 

miesl

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<blockquote>Quote<br><hr><i>Originally posted by: <b>Anonymous</b></i><br>we wouldn't be rushed in the Am with treatment and trying to get to school on time. <hr></blockquote>
The main concern i have with this line of thought is that when your child grows up and joins the workforce, they're going to have to do this anyway. Maybe it's better to get into the habit now so that it's not a problem later.
 

anonymous

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I feel that being in school is such a huge part of growing up. It is a time to socialize and make friends as well as doing some learning along the way. My concern with keeping your daughter home is that she is going to feel different. I've gone to public schools since I was in pre-school. I don't think I got more sick than other kids with normal colds and stuff. I had a flare up probably once and year or twice if it came to that. Usually I would do IV treatments in the summer and this sustained me until winter break or until the following summer. Doing treatments in the morning was rough, I'm not going to lie, but it gave me some great time management skills. I feel that I have better time management skills than most of my peers do at my age because I always had so much more to fit in. School was my favorite part of my life. I'm afraid also that by keeping your daughter home, she will lose out on that bonding time with friends and not be a part of a socialized group. And I agree that when she goes out into the work world she is going to have to find a way to manage all of this anyways. Better to integrate her into this lifestyle earlier rather than later.

Just my opinion

Margaret
Double Lung Tx 11.11.04
 

anonymous

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I believe that public school also is good for children. My 4 year old with CF loves to get out of the house and go to Pre-school(this is his 2nd year) he loves being around other kids. He was sick awhile back and cried & cried because he couldn't go to school. Sure, I worry about all the germs, but you can't keep them in a bubble. Good Luck with you decision.

Angie
 

HollyCatheryn

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Some thoughts and some resources on homeschooling come to mind. 1) I enjoyed the homeschooling that I did. I was able to do much more in a smaller amount of time than at school. Then I had lots of free-time for practicing my violin, writing, swimming, whatever. I never missed my friends because there are TONS of ways to make friends outside of school. 2) It is not as if a child cannot or will not develop or keep friendships if they don't spend 8 hours a day together. 3) Most cities now have homeschool co-ops. This is nice because you can opt for your child to take one or two classes that you don't feel confident to teach and they get to be in a classroom setting for it. 4) Most Community Colleges will allow high school level students to take "dual-credit" classes. This means that if you want your daughter to have Spanish taught by someone who really gets it, she can take it through the college and not only get high school level credit for it, but college credit as well. 5) Many universities (including Ivy Leagues) are actively recruiting homeschoolers because on average they are more self-motivated and have better study habits and more consistent levels of performance than students coming out of regular school. 6) There are many ways to evaluate your homeschooler and to compile a resume and academic portfolio. 7) You can opt for your homeschooler to take standardized tests at regular intervals to track their progress and to help leave a paper-trail for college application. It is not necessary, but you may find it helpful.8) Homeschooling does not necessarily limit you or your student in any way. If you open your mind and get creative, you have lots of opportunities that kids bound to a classroom for 8 hours a day, 5 days a week, 9 months of the year don't. 9) Just because you set a particular schedule for them now doesn't mean they'll be stuck in it for the rest of life. You may have one child who likes to sleep late and another who rises early. With home educating you can meet them both at their best most alert hours. More and more jobs are becoming flexible with their hours because of 24-hour service, commutes and computers. It is highly unlikely that in 10 and 12 years flexible scheduling will be less available. So, even if your daughters decided that they'd never gotten up early and can't start, there will be myriad positions available in a multitude of professions that they can choose to suite their schedule.10) As far as germs, you will encounter the germs of the masses if you go out of your house to any public place. This will expose their immune systems. There is no reason to spend 40 hours a week in an environment just for exposure. It isn't just over-exposure to germs that lurks in a public environment, it is recirculated air, flourescent lighting, sitting for obscene lengths of time which all together serve to cause malady in the body. And public school isn't the only place this happens. The longer your kids stay healthy, the healthier they will ultimately be. Remember that a child's immune system is not even fully developed until 7-8 years of age. Resources: <U>Homeschooling for Excellence</U> by Colfax (written by a couple whose homeschooled sons graduated from Harvard)<U>Christian Unschooling</U> by Brown and Wahl (you don't have to be a Christian to get some great ideas from this book. It also talks about how to create a portfolio for students schooled untraditionally)<U>The Well-Trained Mind</U> by Wise and Bauer (a big book, but it gives guidance to classical-style homeschooling and provides blue-print academic plans for each grade-level)If you combine the three books you get the picture of a VERY workable, flexible style of home education. Feel free to email me at <A href="mailto:jaloughlin3@sbcglobal.net">jaloughlin3@sbcglobal.net</A> for more resources or information.Do what you feel is right for YOUR kids.
 

HollyCatheryn

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I thought of another couple of things to throw into the mix after I got off last night. - Homeschooling would NOT be a good idea for a laid-back, non-goal-oriented family. You know yourself. Will you be able to get up each day and maximize the teachable moments, set goals, be regular in focussing on education? This doesn't mean that Mon-Fri you have to sit at the kitchen table from 8-12 doing book work. That is a sure-fire way to have homeschooling NOT work for most families. But, you do have to be diligent about teaching as you go and seeking out learning opportunities and experiences.- Homeschooling can provide a great preparation for real life in learning to work alongside and in collaboration with others of different ages and skill-levels. Very few jobs will have people segregated by age and experience. Your kids will learn to be comfortable working in these kind of mixed groups. - Homeschooling can also be a great opportunity to put their education to practical use. Their education won't be limited to theories and paperwork, unless you want it to be. You can set up a project and learn all the skills necessary to bring it to fruition. - Homeschooling usually does a good job of integrating subjects. Meaning that you don't just learn about science. You learn about science in terms of history and geography. You learn about history in terms of literature, geography and art. Little of life is easily separated into compartmentalized subjects and homeschooling is especially suited to addressing the interconnectedness of each study. Food for thought. PS - as you might be able to tell, we are homeschooling our daughter. If you want some practical applications for studying different subjects, let me know. I have a few of my own and have some great resources.
 

Allie

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I just have to add, if you do choose to home school, please take the advice to get standardized testing done. It will make you child's life so much easier when they decide to go to college or transfer to a regular school. Especially have them take the SATs and/or ACTs.

The other thing, on a personal note, is the things like dances and prom, and high school football games, and class plays, those are the things I think would be hardest to miss out on. I teach high school, and you should see how excited they get about these things. Or even how excited Ahava gets about her class Halloween play. I think that might be hard to mis out on, those milestones. Just a personal thought.
 

anonymous

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I agree with you Allie..and I think that's what I was trying to get across in my point. Missing out on those certain milestones of life that come along with going to school. There is nothing like pretending you are a princess for a night and going to your prom with your date and nothing can replace having school spirit and sitting on the sidelines rooting on your friends to make one more touchdown so you can go on to be state champs. High school ecspecially is such an important time.

Margaret
Double Lung tx 11.11.04
 

HollyCatheryn

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I'm obviously playing devil's advocate, but let's play this out.I homeschooled part of high school, graduated two years early and then attended the local community college. All of my friends were public schoolers. We were friends when I homeschooled and friends when I went to CC. We had sleepovers. I had boyfriends. I went to prom - twice. You don't have to be a student at a high school (in most places) to be able to go to the prom as the date of a student. I played in orchestra with several of my friends in an out-of-school orchestra. I also swam on the city swim team on which many of the school swimmers swam also. I went to football games and rooted with my friends. I went to the school plays. I competed in All-Region Choir and Orchestra. Just because I didn't sit in the classroom didn't mean that those kids were off-limits as friends. I know that several of them envied my being able to finish school-work in such an efficient fashion while they were stuck sitting, doing paperwork. I made the same kinds of scores on my SATs and TASP as my public school friends when we took it our Freshman year. The difference was that even though we all scored at college entrance level, they were stuck doing three more years of high school. I went on to college because I could. By the time they got home in the afternoons, I was done with school and my violin practicing and was ready to hang out. They had hours of homework ahead and then practicing. We made time. And we had fun. But, I was so much freer and had so many more options than my friends - and they knew it. I wasn't smarter than they were. We all made the same kinds of grades and were studying the same things. Actually, if anything some of them were smarter than I. I ended up doing a year and a half at community college and then attending University of North Texas as a Mucis Ed. major (violin/voice double primary) with a double minor in jazz and performance.Not being in public high school didn't keep me from anything - friends or activities.
 

anonymous

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Holly-
I totally understand what you are saying...and you and I are just on opossite ends of the spectrum regarding this debate...which is totally cool as a difference of opinions is what makes the world go round. I don't know...maybe I just took more away from school than most people did. I for one did not mind getting up early and I liked sitting in the classroom. And I am not saying that because a person is homeschooled they will not have any friends (although I have met people that were homeschooled and were not very acclimated to social settings). Its just that you miss out on those funny things that happened in class and in the halls, and that bonding time at school. I just feel that staying home you are missing out on things in the class room. And maybe you do have more free time, but i think you can get just as much out of going to school. And I do think that going to school broadens your scope of friends. There are so many different people that you meet in the classroom that you may never think to talk to outside of school. I guess i just feel that High School ecspecially is like a right of passage into adulthood. Again this is just my opinion and it is totally dependent on what type of family wants to do the homeschooling and what type of child it is regarding. I wonder what the original poster decided to do.
Margaret
Double Lung Tx
11.11.04
 

anonymous

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I have one child in private school and I home school the other. My decisions were based on each child's needs. I keep the one that is home schooled as active as possible with help from the private school. I do playground duty with her peers. I am also their Brownie leader. The reason I keep her home is to teach her how to read HER way. She has an auditory? disorder, where she doen't hear the same way you and I do. I have to repeat things to her 3-5 times, a teacher doesn't have that kind of time. So, when she's able to read she can go back to the private school if need be. By the way she's not the one with cf. I see both positive and negative for home schooling and public or private school. We just have to make the choice for our children and hope we made the right one. Good luck, there are great programs out there.
Michelle
 

HollyCatheryn

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Hey Margaret, Thanks for sharing your ideas and opinions and for letting me do so as well. It is so nice when we can have an open honest discussion without people getting all huffy <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">I haven't "spoken" totally clearly. I also attended public school as well as doing some homeschooling. I must admit that I have a bit of a unique vantage point because I did experience both home and public school and as a music teacher I have had lots of contact with homeschooling families as well as public and private schooling families. I have noticed that whether or not a child has social skills and "fits in" depends on the family not the method of education. I've taught some very awkward, socially inept kids who are not homeschooled and some very sociable, capable, comfortable homeschoolers and vice versa. I also loved school and learning. Even when I was in public school I made up projects to do at home because I didn't want to stop learning just because the bell had rung. I do understand the little things that go on in the classroom and I remember. But, I also must say, that as a teacher and with several other teachers in my family (my sister-in-law teaches public 8th grade English and my husband taught at a private school, my parents-in-law are retired teachers) the classroom experience that you and I had 10-15-20 years ago is not what the kids are getting today, in large part. There are a lot more negative things going on in the school systems now than even 8 or 10 years ago. The quality of eduaction and the level of academics has dropped dramatically. Kids are now reading in 8th grade the things that I read in 4th and 5th grade (really, I've compared reading lists). In my mind, there just are not enough positives in public school to outweigh the negatives for any family who has the option of homeschooling. Are the little quirky interactions between parents and children or siblings of less value to their personhood than those with peers? Do little quirky interactions with peers NOT happen in a sport or extracurricular setting? If a child like the classroom, sitting at a desk/table format can that not be used in the home?Obviously, a family who does not want to homeschool will not choose to do so, but to me it is hard to make a solid case for public schooling over homeschooling when it is an available option.
 

anonymous

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I would have to disagree with what you said HollyCathryn, re. what is being taught in public schools. It definately depends on the school district. I was a elementary teacher from 2000-2003 and when I started I was suprised to see that we were teaching many things earlier than I had been taught when I was in elementary school (in the early 80's). I also worked in 2 different districts in 2 different states and found this to be the case in both places...
 

anonymous

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Thanks everyone for your time in giving your opions. I certainly have much to think about. Holly btw, one of my friends uses the book <u>The Well-Trained Mind</u> to home school her kids. Her kids are some of the smartest kids I know of (besides mine, hehehe). My girls currently go to private school, but I don't think that we will be able to afford it much longer. And I don't feel the public schools in my town are an option. I know several TEACHERS that are great, but the system is bad. They are forced to teach so much to the test it is ridiculous. A teacher in our town was told what group to focus on. I can't remember the exact percentages, but basically... the kids over 70%+ already are testing Okay so don't worry about them. The kids at 50%- will never make it to 70%, so focus on the kids who have tested in the high 50% and 60% range to bring them up to acceptable. She has worked in 2 different elementary schools in our district and was told the same at each. Of course nothing is officially said.... So since my girls are good students, they would get lost in a class and just be kept occupied with busy work. I know not all schools are like this, but unfortunately the schools in my area are.
 

Allie

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Have you checked into an honors program? I teach honors English at a high school, and I can tell you, we do not 'teach to the test.' They have honors programs all the way into elementary school, so you might want to look at those programs before you dismiss public school althogether. I don't negate that there are problems, but I think with the budget we're given, we do fairly well.

Just a thought.
 

anonymous

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We have the same problem here. That is why my one daughter is in private school. I REALLY understand about the expense. Is it a christian school? If so, one of the church's that support it may help you on the tuition. When my ex- husband quit paying child support, our church stepped in until I could go to court. I know they also help families who are struggling to pay. Just for your information if you decide to home school. You have a right to use the school's library that your daughters would have been attending. We don't use our's because there isn't a selection. Also, if they would need occupational, speech or a resource class they have that right. This is according to Public Law 94-142. It doesn't sound like you would need this, but just letting you and anyone else know. At first my daughter was denied(speech), then the story changed very quickly when I came in with this law. There should be support groups in your area. This is where homeschoolers get together once a week for gym. This really helps too. Good luck with your decision. I know it took me 3 months to decide for myself.

Michelle
 
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