Peak Flow down, Clinic Visits Increased

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Terry

Guest
Hi!

Sorry it has been so long since I have been on the board. Life has been busy around here.

I was wondering if any of you might have experienced this situation or have any input. Marissa was hospitalized the last week of February for DIOS (all cleared up). Up until then she was consistently blowing 300 - 320 on her peak flow meter. When she got out of the hospital, her peak flow had dropped to 220. We figured she had caught a bug in the hospital, which would be typical. She did eventually start coughing more frequently (she would rarely cough before hand if she wasn't "sick"), we upped her vest treatments to 3 times a day from twice a day.

She was seen in the clinic the first week of March, and her fev1 had dropped 11 points. They started her on a 6 week course of Bactrim. She quit coughing as much and her peak flow went up to 250, still down. They saw her at the clinic when the bactrim was finished and decided to put her on it for another 6 weeks.

There has not been any further improvement. Since March she has had to go to the clinic every 6 weeks instead of every 3 months. We are not being given a reason for the increase in clinic visits, or the drop in her peak flow, or the drop in her fev1, or the coughing. She is not culturing anything other than the MRSA that she has had (untreated) for a couple of years now.

She goes to Johns Hopkins, so we know she is in good hands as far as qualifications go. We just don't understand why there is an obvious concern (increased visits), but no further treatment for whatever must be there causing this issue.

Is this just supposed to happen without reason? I keep asking myself if maybe although we KNOW that she is not "healthy," do we not accept that she is "sick." Do we accept that this is the new "norm." Is it not reasonable to expect her to not cough most of the night in bed, or to blow a 320 again?

I'm sorry, I think I am beginning to get depressed. I'm so angry about issues that go on with her real mom, not taking things serious like she is supposed to get the feedings we send...I feel like I am getting lost...I thought I knew what I was doing, but now I can't figure this out.

It is too much of a difference to not mean something needs to be done.

I think we have all had this nagging, ticking sound in the back of our minds. Marissa wasn't diagnosed with CF until she was 4, although she was constantly sick and being seen for "asthma." When they diagnosed her, we were told she probably wouldn't make it past nine years old. We shrugged that off the past few years, but she had been doing so well since getting all her treatments. She turned 9 last April.

Thanks for reading.

Maybe I just needed to vent. That is so hard to do when you don't want to upset people or have her over hear.

Terry
 
T

Terry

Guest
Hi!

Sorry it has been so long since I have been on the board. Life has been busy around here.

I was wondering if any of you might have experienced this situation or have any input. Marissa was hospitalized the last week of February for DIOS (all cleared up). Up until then she was consistently blowing 300 - 320 on her peak flow meter. When she got out of the hospital, her peak flow had dropped to 220. We figured she had caught a bug in the hospital, which would be typical. She did eventually start coughing more frequently (she would rarely cough before hand if she wasn't "sick"), we upped her vest treatments to 3 times a day from twice a day.

She was seen in the clinic the first week of March, and her fev1 had dropped 11 points. They started her on a 6 week course of Bactrim. She quit coughing as much and her peak flow went up to 250, still down. They saw her at the clinic when the bactrim was finished and decided to put her on it for another 6 weeks.

There has not been any further improvement. Since March she has had to go to the clinic every 6 weeks instead of every 3 months. We are not being given a reason for the increase in clinic visits, or the drop in her peak flow, or the drop in her fev1, or the coughing. She is not culturing anything other than the MRSA that she has had (untreated) for a couple of years now.

She goes to Johns Hopkins, so we know she is in good hands as far as qualifications go. We just don't understand why there is an obvious concern (increased visits), but no further treatment for whatever must be there causing this issue.

Is this just supposed to happen without reason? I keep asking myself if maybe although we KNOW that she is not "healthy," do we not accept that she is "sick." Do we accept that this is the new "norm." Is it not reasonable to expect her to not cough most of the night in bed, or to blow a 320 again?

I'm sorry, I think I am beginning to get depressed. I'm so angry about issues that go on with her real mom, not taking things serious like she is supposed to get the feedings we send...I feel like I am getting lost...I thought I knew what I was doing, but now I can't figure this out.

It is too much of a difference to not mean something needs to be done.

I think we have all had this nagging, ticking sound in the back of our minds. Marissa wasn't diagnosed with CF until she was 4, although she was constantly sick and being seen for "asthma." When they diagnosed her, we were told she probably wouldn't make it past nine years old. We shrugged that off the past few years, but she had been doing so well since getting all her treatments. She turned 9 last April.

Thanks for reading.

Maybe I just needed to vent. That is so hard to do when you don't want to upset people or have her over hear.

Terry
 
T

Terry

Guest
Hi!

Sorry it has been so long since I have been on the board. Life has been busy around here.

I was wondering if any of you might have experienced this situation or have any input. Marissa was hospitalized the last week of February for DIOS (all cleared up). Up until then she was consistently blowing 300 - 320 on her peak flow meter. When she got out of the hospital, her peak flow had dropped to 220. We figured she had caught a bug in the hospital, which would be typical. She did eventually start coughing more frequently (she would rarely cough before hand if she wasn't "sick"), we upped her vest treatments to 3 times a day from twice a day.

She was seen in the clinic the first week of March, and her fev1 had dropped 11 points. They started her on a 6 week course of Bactrim. She quit coughing as much and her peak flow went up to 250, still down. They saw her at the clinic when the bactrim was finished and decided to put her on it for another 6 weeks.

There has not been any further improvement. Since March she has had to go to the clinic every 6 weeks instead of every 3 months. We are not being given a reason for the increase in clinic visits, or the drop in her peak flow, or the drop in her fev1, or the coughing. She is not culturing anything other than the MRSA that she has had (untreated) for a couple of years now.

She goes to Johns Hopkins, so we know she is in good hands as far as qualifications go. We just don't understand why there is an obvious concern (increased visits), but no further treatment for whatever must be there causing this issue.

Is this just supposed to happen without reason? I keep asking myself if maybe although we KNOW that she is not "healthy," do we not accept that she is "sick." Do we accept that this is the new "norm." Is it not reasonable to expect her to not cough most of the night in bed, or to blow a 320 again?

I'm sorry, I think I am beginning to get depressed. I'm so angry about issues that go on with her real mom, not taking things serious like she is supposed to get the feedings we send...I feel like I am getting lost...I thought I knew what I was doing, but now I can't figure this out.

It is too much of a difference to not mean something needs to be done.

I think we have all had this nagging, ticking sound in the back of our minds. Marissa wasn't diagnosed with CF until she was 4, although she was constantly sick and being seen for "asthma." When they diagnosed her, we were told she probably wouldn't make it past nine years old. We shrugged that off the past few years, but she had been doing so well since getting all her treatments. She turned 9 last April.

Thanks for reading.

Maybe I just needed to vent. That is so hard to do when you don't want to upset people or have her over hear.

Terry
 
T

Terry

Guest
Hi!

Sorry it has been so long since I have been on the board. Life has been busy around here.

I was wondering if any of you might have experienced this situation or have any input. Marissa was hospitalized the last week of February for DIOS (all cleared up). Up until then she was consistently blowing 300 - 320 on her peak flow meter. When she got out of the hospital, her peak flow had dropped to 220. We figured she had caught a bug in the hospital, which would be typical. She did eventually start coughing more frequently (she would rarely cough before hand if she wasn't "sick"), we upped her vest treatments to 3 times a day from twice a day.

She was seen in the clinic the first week of March, and her fev1 had dropped 11 points. They started her on a 6 week course of Bactrim. She quit coughing as much and her peak flow went up to 250, still down. They saw her at the clinic when the bactrim was finished and decided to put her on it for another 6 weeks.

There has not been any further improvement. Since March she has had to go to the clinic every 6 weeks instead of every 3 months. We are not being given a reason for the increase in clinic visits, or the drop in her peak flow, or the drop in her fev1, or the coughing. She is not culturing anything other than the MRSA that she has had (untreated) for a couple of years now.

She goes to Johns Hopkins, so we know she is in good hands as far as qualifications go. We just don't understand why there is an obvious concern (increased visits), but no further treatment for whatever must be there causing this issue.

Is this just supposed to happen without reason? I keep asking myself if maybe although we KNOW that she is not "healthy," do we not accept that she is "sick." Do we accept that this is the new "norm." Is it not reasonable to expect her to not cough most of the night in bed, or to blow a 320 again?

I'm sorry, I think I am beginning to get depressed. I'm so angry about issues that go on with her real mom, not taking things serious like she is supposed to get the feedings we send...I feel like I am getting lost...I thought I knew what I was doing, but now I can't figure this out.

It is too much of a difference to not mean something needs to be done.

I think we have all had this nagging, ticking sound in the back of our minds. Marissa wasn't diagnosed with CF until she was 4, although she was constantly sick and being seen for "asthma." When they diagnosed her, we were told she probably wouldn't make it past nine years old. We shrugged that off the past few years, but she had been doing so well since getting all her treatments. She turned 9 last April.

Thanks for reading.

Maybe I just needed to vent. That is so hard to do when you don't want to upset people or have her over hear.

Terry
 
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Terry

Guest
Hi!
<br />
<br />Sorry it has been so long since I have been on the board. Life has been busy around here.
<br />
<br />I was wondering if any of you might have experienced this situation or have any input. Marissa was hospitalized the last week of February for DIOS (all cleared up). Up until then she was consistently blowing 300 - 320 on her peak flow meter. When she got out of the hospital, her peak flow had dropped to 220. We figured she had caught a bug in the hospital, which would be typical. She did eventually start coughing more frequently (she would rarely cough before hand if she wasn't "sick"), we upped her vest treatments to 3 times a day from twice a day.
<br />
<br />She was seen in the clinic the first week of March, and her fev1 had dropped 11 points. They started her on a 6 week course of Bactrim. She quit coughing as much and her peak flow went up to 250, still down. They saw her at the clinic when the bactrim was finished and decided to put her on it for another 6 weeks.
<br />
<br />There has not been any further improvement. Since March she has had to go to the clinic every 6 weeks instead of every 3 months. We are not being given a reason for the increase in clinic visits, or the drop in her peak flow, or the drop in her fev1, or the coughing. She is not culturing anything other than the MRSA that she has had (untreated) for a couple of years now.
<br />
<br />She goes to Johns Hopkins, so we know she is in good hands as far as qualifications go. We just don't understand why there is an obvious concern (increased visits), but no further treatment for whatever must be there causing this issue.
<br />
<br />Is this just supposed to happen without reason? I keep asking myself if maybe although we KNOW that she is not "healthy," do we not accept that she is "sick." Do we accept that this is the new "norm." Is it not reasonable to expect her to not cough most of the night in bed, or to blow a 320 again?
<br />
<br />I'm sorry, I think I am beginning to get depressed. I'm so angry about issues that go on with her real mom, not taking things serious like she is supposed to get the feedings we send...I feel like I am getting lost...I thought I knew what I was doing, but now I can't figure this out.
<br />
<br />It is too much of a difference to not mean something needs to be done.
<br />
<br />I think we have all had this nagging, ticking sound in the back of our minds. Marissa wasn't diagnosed with CF until she was 4, although she was constantly sick and being seen for "asthma." When they diagnosed her, we were told she probably wouldn't make it past nine years old. We shrugged that off the past few years, but she had been doing so well since getting all her treatments. She turned 9 last April.
<br />
<br />Thanks for reading.
<br />
<br />Maybe I just needed to vent. That is so hard to do when you don't want to upset people or have her over hear.
<br />
<br />Terry
 

ginandbrea

New member
Terry !!! I read the PM you sent me before reading this!

I updated you in the PM about the Allicin and how Brea is doing on it. Marissa and Breanna sound identical as I have said before. Brea wasn't diagnosed until 9 years old and has only cultured MRSA. I know the MRSA has to be the reason, it just has to be. I have read so many articles and it seems the CFers that culture MRSA have more antibiotics, more hospitalizations, lower PFTs and more exacerbations. Please look into to the Allicin, the AC-23. I have only been giving it to Brea for 2 1/2 weeks and she has made a HUGE improvement. The Allicin is supposed to eradicate the MRSA, a natural garlic derivative antibiotic. The oysters which have always been dark green and really thick are now light green turning clear and very thin. Her dry hacking cough at night we talked about is gone! She actually has color back in her face. After the 3 months of AC-23, (6) caps a day we are going to stay on a (2) cap a day regimen. I can't wait to see her next culture, it may not be completely gone, but I feel sure there will be a decrease in the amount of bacterias.

Keep me posted, take care,
Gina
 

ginandbrea

New member
Terry !!! I read the PM you sent me before reading this!

I updated you in the PM about the Allicin and how Brea is doing on it. Marissa and Breanna sound identical as I have said before. Brea wasn't diagnosed until 9 years old and has only cultured MRSA. I know the MRSA has to be the reason, it just has to be. I have read so many articles and it seems the CFers that culture MRSA have more antibiotics, more hospitalizations, lower PFTs and more exacerbations. Please look into to the Allicin, the AC-23. I have only been giving it to Brea for 2 1/2 weeks and she has made a HUGE improvement. The Allicin is supposed to eradicate the MRSA, a natural garlic derivative antibiotic. The oysters which have always been dark green and really thick are now light green turning clear and very thin. Her dry hacking cough at night we talked about is gone! She actually has color back in her face. After the 3 months of AC-23, (6) caps a day we are going to stay on a (2) cap a day regimen. I can't wait to see her next culture, it may not be completely gone, but I feel sure there will be a decrease in the amount of bacterias.

Keep me posted, take care,
Gina
 

ginandbrea

New member
Terry !!! I read the PM you sent me before reading this!

I updated you in the PM about the Allicin and how Brea is doing on it. Marissa and Breanna sound identical as I have said before. Brea wasn't diagnosed until 9 years old and has only cultured MRSA. I know the MRSA has to be the reason, it just has to be. I have read so many articles and it seems the CFers that culture MRSA have more antibiotics, more hospitalizations, lower PFTs and more exacerbations. Please look into to the Allicin, the AC-23. I have only been giving it to Brea for 2 1/2 weeks and she has made a HUGE improvement. The Allicin is supposed to eradicate the MRSA, a natural garlic derivative antibiotic. The oysters which have always been dark green and really thick are now light green turning clear and very thin. Her dry hacking cough at night we talked about is gone! She actually has color back in her face. After the 3 months of AC-23, (6) caps a day we are going to stay on a (2) cap a day regimen. I can't wait to see her next culture, it may not be completely gone, but I feel sure there will be a decrease in the amount of bacterias.

Keep me posted, take care,
Gina
 

ginandbrea

New member
Terry !!! I read the PM you sent me before reading this!

I updated you in the PM about the Allicin and how Brea is doing on it. Marissa and Breanna sound identical as I have said before. Brea wasn't diagnosed until 9 years old and has only cultured MRSA. I know the MRSA has to be the reason, it just has to be. I have read so many articles and it seems the CFers that culture MRSA have more antibiotics, more hospitalizations, lower PFTs and more exacerbations. Please look into to the Allicin, the AC-23. I have only been giving it to Brea for 2 1/2 weeks and she has made a HUGE improvement. The Allicin is supposed to eradicate the MRSA, a natural garlic derivative antibiotic. The oysters which have always been dark green and really thick are now light green turning clear and very thin. Her dry hacking cough at night we talked about is gone! She actually has color back in her face. After the 3 months of AC-23, (6) caps a day we are going to stay on a (2) cap a day regimen. I can't wait to see her next culture, it may not be completely gone, but I feel sure there will be a decrease in the amount of bacterias.

Keep me posted, take care,
Gina
 

ginandbrea

New member
Terry !!! I read the PM you sent me before reading this!
<br />
<br />I updated you in the PM about the Allicin and how Brea is doing on it. Marissa and Breanna sound identical as I have said before. Brea wasn't diagnosed until 9 years old and has only cultured MRSA. I know the MRSA has to be the reason, it just has to be. I have read so many articles and it seems the CFers that culture MRSA have more antibiotics, more hospitalizations, lower PFTs and more exacerbations. Please look into to the Allicin, the AC-23. I have only been giving it to Brea for 2 1/2 weeks and she has made a HUGE improvement. The Allicin is supposed to eradicate the MRSA, a natural garlic derivative antibiotic. The oysters which have always been dark green and really thick are now light green turning clear and very thin. Her dry hacking cough at night we talked about is gone! She actually has color back in her face. After the 3 months of AC-23, (6) caps a day we are going to stay on a (2) cap a day regimen. I can't wait to see her next culture, it may not be completely gone, but I feel sure there will be a decrease in the amount of bacterias.
<br />
<br />Keep me posted, take care,
<br />Gina
<br />
 
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Terry

Guest
Hi Gina!

Thanks for all the info. Allicin is definitely something worth trying.

I feel this is the MRSA as well. It's the only thing there, it must be. I have read on the internet about how the MRSA causes people with CF to have more problems. I still don't understand why it gets left untreated. I thought the goal here was to prevent problems, but letting this linger and get deeper makes no sense.

I am so glad for you that Brea is doing so much better! She is such a beautiful little girl, LOVE THE DIMPLES!

Take care,
Terry
 
T

Terry

Guest
Hi Gina!

Thanks for all the info. Allicin is definitely something worth trying.

I feel this is the MRSA as well. It's the only thing there, it must be. I have read on the internet about how the MRSA causes people with CF to have more problems. I still don't understand why it gets left untreated. I thought the goal here was to prevent problems, but letting this linger and get deeper makes no sense.

I am so glad for you that Brea is doing so much better! She is such a beautiful little girl, LOVE THE DIMPLES!

Take care,
Terry
 
T

Terry

Guest
Hi Gina!

Thanks for all the info. Allicin is definitely something worth trying.

I feel this is the MRSA as well. It's the only thing there, it must be. I have read on the internet about how the MRSA causes people with CF to have more problems. I still don't understand why it gets left untreated. I thought the goal here was to prevent problems, but letting this linger and get deeper makes no sense.

I am so glad for you that Brea is doing so much better! She is such a beautiful little girl, LOVE THE DIMPLES!

Take care,
Terry
 
T

Terry

Guest
Hi Gina!

Thanks for all the info. Allicin is definitely something worth trying.

I feel this is the MRSA as well. It's the only thing there, it must be. I have read on the internet about how the MRSA causes people with CF to have more problems. I still don't understand why it gets left untreated. I thought the goal here was to prevent problems, but letting this linger and get deeper makes no sense.

I am so glad for you that Brea is doing so much better! She is such a beautiful little girl, LOVE THE DIMPLES!

Take care,
Terry
 
T

Terry

Guest
Hi Gina!
<br />
<br />Thanks for all the info. Allicin is definitely something worth trying.
<br />
<br />I feel this is the MRSA as well. It's the only thing there, it must be. I have read on the internet about how the MRSA causes people with CF to have more problems. I still don't understand why it gets left untreated. I thought the goal here was to prevent problems, but letting this linger and get deeper makes no sense.
<br />
<br />I am so glad for you that Brea is doing so much better! She is such a beautiful little girl, LOVE THE DIMPLES!
<br />
<br />Take care,
<br />Terry
 

Juliet

New member
Terry, Sorry to hear she's not doing to well. I go to the JH Adult Clinic BTW. Before I was DXd with CF (march this year) my lung function dropped significantly. I was only ever culturing in sputum cultures my Staph Aureus. I had a Bronch done (by my pulmo doc, that was before I was going to JH). I cultured MAC. After 18 months of treatment the MAC is gone. About 12 months into my MAC treatment I had a second bronch to check for MAC. I've never cultured MAC in sputum only in the Bronch. Maybe there is something down in her lungs that's not showing up on sputum cultures. It might be something to ask the doctor's about anyways. The Adult CF clinic has a very very responsive team and they always return calls. I'd imagine the pediatric group has the same culture. Why don't you call them and engage the nurse practitioner and ask about your concerns. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> Good Luck, ~Juliet
 

Juliet

New member
Terry, Sorry to hear she's not doing to well. I go to the JH Adult Clinic BTW. Before I was DXd with CF (march this year) my lung function dropped significantly. I was only ever culturing in sputum cultures my Staph Aureus. I had a Bronch done (by my pulmo doc, that was before I was going to JH). I cultured MAC. After 18 months of treatment the MAC is gone. About 12 months into my MAC treatment I had a second bronch to check for MAC. I've never cultured MAC in sputum only in the Bronch. Maybe there is something down in her lungs that's not showing up on sputum cultures. It might be something to ask the doctor's about anyways. The Adult CF clinic has a very very responsive team and they always return calls. I'd imagine the pediatric group has the same culture. Why don't you call them and engage the nurse practitioner and ask about your concerns. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> Good Luck, ~Juliet
 

Juliet

New member
Terry, Sorry to hear she's not doing to well. I go to the JH Adult Clinic BTW. Before I was DXd with CF (march this year) my lung function dropped significantly. I was only ever culturing in sputum cultures my Staph Aureus. I had a Bronch done (by my pulmo doc, that was before I was going to JH). I cultured MAC. After 18 months of treatment the MAC is gone. About 12 months into my MAC treatment I had a second bronch to check for MAC. I've never cultured MAC in sputum only in the Bronch. Maybe there is something down in her lungs that's not showing up on sputum cultures. It might be something to ask the doctor's about anyways. The Adult CF clinic has a very very responsive team and they always return calls. I'd imagine the pediatric group has the same culture. Why don't you call them and engage the nurse practitioner and ask about your concerns. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> Good Luck, ~Juliet
 

Juliet

New member
Terry, Sorry to hear she's not doing to well. I go to the JH Adult Clinic BTW. Before I was DXd with CF (march this year) my lung function dropped significantly. I was only ever culturing in sputum cultures my Staph Aureus. I had a Bronch done (by my pulmo doc, that was before I was going to JH). I cultured MAC. After 18 months of treatment the MAC is gone. About 12 months into my MAC treatment I had a second bronch to check for MAC. I've never cultured MAC in sputum only in the Bronch. Maybe there is something down in her lungs that's not showing up on sputum cultures. It might be something to ask the doctor's about anyways. The Adult CF clinic has a very very responsive team and they always return calls. I'd imagine the pediatric group has the same culture. Why don't you call them and engage the nurse practitioner and ask about your concerns. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> Good Luck, ~Juliet
 

Juliet

New member
Terry, Sorry to hear she's not doing to well. I go to the JH Adult Clinic BTW. Before I was DXd with CF (march this year) my lung function dropped significantly. I was only ever culturing in sputum cultures my Staph Aureus. I had a Bronch done (by my pulmo doc, that was before I was going to JH). I cultured MAC. After 18 months of treatment the MAC is gone. About 12 months into my MAC treatment I had a second bronch to check for MAC. I've never cultured MAC in sputum only in the Bronch. Maybe there is something down in her lungs that's not showing up on sputum cultures. It might be something to ask the doctor's about anyways. The Adult CF clinic has a very very responsive team and they always return calls. I'd imagine the pediatric group has the same culture. Why don't you call them and engage the nurse practitioner and ask about your concerns. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> Good Luck, ~Juliet
 
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