PFTs

auntcob

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I am always a little confused by PFT results. Most people refer to their FEV1 numbers when asked about their PFTs. Why is this? Is this the most informative number in terms of CF? I thought it was a measure, in general, of how well the large airways are doing but that CF is an issue that starts in the smaller airways.

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auntcob

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I am always a little confused by PFT results. Most people refer to their FEV1 numbers when asked about their PFTs. Why is this? Is this the most informative number in terms of CF? I thought it was a measure, in general, of how well the large airways are doing but that CF is an issue that starts in the smaller airways.

Help!
 

auntcob

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I am always a little confused by PFT results. Most people refer to their FEV1 numbers when asked about their PFTs. Why is this? Is this the most informative number in terms of CF? I thought it was a measure, in general, of how well the large airways are doing but that CF is an issue that starts in the smaller airways.
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Lief

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FEV1 is the amount of air you can exhale in one second from the smallest parts of your lungs. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">
 

Lief

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FEV1 is the amount of air you can exhale in one second from the smallest parts of your lungs. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">
 

Lief

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FEV1 is the amount of air you can exhale in one second from the smallest parts of your lungs. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">
 

hmw

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I always thought it (FEV1) was the amount of air expelled in the first second of the spirometry testing... and that a better gauge of small airway function was found in some of the other measurements...?

eta> after pulling out note and copy of my son's pft's;
The FEF# is the indicator of small airway function, according to my son's dr.
 

hmw

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I always thought it (FEV1) was the amount of air expelled in the first second of the spirometry testing... and that a better gauge of small airway function was found in some of the other measurements...?

eta> after pulling out note and copy of my son's pft's;
The FEF# is the indicator of small airway function, according to my son's dr.
 

hmw

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I always thought it (FEV1) was the amount of air expelled in the first second of the spirometry testing... and that a better gauge of small airway function was found in some of the other measurements...?
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<br />eta> after pulling out note and copy of my son's pft's;
<br />The FEF# is the indicator of small airway function, according to my son's dr.
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TonyaH

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The way I understand it, FEV1 is a good overall indication of lung capacity and strength. It is the forced expiratory volume in the first seond of a forced exhale.

FEF is a better test for the small airways. It is a measurement of air given off halfway through a forced exhale.

We watch both at our clinic. FEV1 is the main number we watch, but there have been times when his FEV1 has been okay but a 10 percent dip in FEF 25-75 has put Andrew on ivs.
 
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TonyaH

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The way I understand it, FEV1 is a good overall indication of lung capacity and strength. It is the forced expiratory volume in the first seond of a forced exhale.

FEF is a better test for the small airways. It is a measurement of air given off halfway through a forced exhale.

We watch both at our clinic. FEV1 is the main number we watch, but there have been times when his FEV1 has been okay but a 10 percent dip in FEF 25-75 has put Andrew on ivs.
 
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TonyaH

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The way I understand it, FEV1 is a good overall indication of lung capacity and strength. It is the forced expiratory volume in the first seond of a forced exhale.
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<br />FEF is a better test for the small airways. It is a measurement of air given off halfway through a forced exhale.
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<br />We watch both at our clinic. FEV1 is the main number we watch, but there have been times when his FEV1 has been okay but a 10 percent dip in FEF 25-75 has put Andrew on ivs.
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hmw

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That is what I thought, Tonya.

Emily's FEF varies dramatically- however, she has such a strong asthma component to her CF that often plays a role. We see a significant difference when she's had a treatment right before coming to clinic. Her fev1 is a more consistent number, just about always over 100% when she's not having an exacerbation.
 

hmw

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That is what I thought, Tonya.

Emily's FEF varies dramatically- however, she has such a strong asthma component to her CF that often plays a role. We see a significant difference when she's had a treatment right before coming to clinic. Her fev1 is a more consistent number, just about always over 100% when she's not having an exacerbation.
 

hmw

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That is what I thought, Tonya.
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<br />Emily's FEF varies dramatically- however, she has such a strong asthma component to her CF that often plays a role. We see a significant difference when she's had a treatment right before coming to clinic. Her fev1 is a more consistent number, just about always over 100% when she's not having an exacerbation.
 

auntcob

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Thanks for the information. ADam's numbers basically remain the same before and after an albuterol treatment. Doc says this is an indication of CF rather than asthma. Thoughts?
 

auntcob

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Thanks for the information. ADam's numbers basically remain the same before and after an albuterol treatment. Doc says this is an indication of CF rather than asthma. Thoughts?
 

auntcob

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Thanks for the information. ADam's numbers basically remain the same before and after an albuterol treatment. Doc says this is an indication of CF rather than asthma. Thoughts?
 

hmw

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If you are looking at an either/or differential, I suppose- numbers that don't change can indicate a more obstructive disease process. However, with Emily, her asthma isn't a stand-alone dx, it's the inflammation component of her CF. We do know that her numbers rose about 15% once her nebs and vest were how her dr wanted them (she was in the low 90's at dx and now is well over 100% upon adding albuterol, pulmacort and pulmozyme. It was adding pulmozyme that made the BIGGEST difference- her fev1 went up almost 10% after adding this.) If his dr feels his pft's are where they are now due to CF, I would think he'd take the next logical step and put him on some CF-specific nebs and airway clearance and see if that helps him. Due to CF's progressive nature, to see #'s that low and just leave them that way w/o the treatment that is the standard of care in CF worries me (only mentioning this after seeing your post elsewhere that this dr is not addressing his respiratory health at all.)

Now on the other hand in the asthma vs. cf scenario- My son has terrible pft's- much worse than Emily's- and we are still trying to figure out if they are due to 'just' asthma or if he has CF as well. (He goes for NPD testing in 2 weeks.) If Shawn has CF with the pft's he has now, it is really concerning, because it would indicate that at age 13 he already has some lung disease. (fev1 74% before albuterol, 77% after; FEF25-75 54% before albuterol and 71% after.) Even if it's 'just' asthma, it indicates we really need to work hard at getting it under better control to try to improve his numbers, but at least asthma is a more static condition. CF, of course, is not. So Shawn had dramatic change in small airways (suggestive of asthma) but very little change in fev1 (so that is a little harder to gauge.)
 

hmw

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If you are looking at an either/or differential, I suppose- numbers that don't change can indicate a more obstructive disease process. However, with Emily, her asthma isn't a stand-alone dx, it's the inflammation component of her CF. We do know that her numbers rose about 15% once her nebs and vest were how her dr wanted them (she was in the low 90's at dx and now is well over 100% upon adding albuterol, pulmacort and pulmozyme. It was adding pulmozyme that made the BIGGEST difference- her fev1 went up almost 10% after adding this.) If his dr feels his pft's are where they are now due to CF, I would think he'd take the next logical step and put him on some CF-specific nebs and airway clearance and see if that helps him. Due to CF's progressive nature, to see #'s that low and just leave them that way w/o the treatment that is the standard of care in CF worries me (only mentioning this after seeing your post elsewhere that this dr is not addressing his respiratory health at all.)

Now on the other hand in the asthma vs. cf scenario- My son has terrible pft's- much worse than Emily's- and we are still trying to figure out if they are due to 'just' asthma or if he has CF as well. (He goes for NPD testing in 2 weeks.) If Shawn has CF with the pft's he has now, it is really concerning, because it would indicate that at age 13 he already has some lung disease. (fev1 74% before albuterol, 77% after; FEF25-75 54% before albuterol and 71% after.) Even if it's 'just' asthma, it indicates we really need to work hard at getting it under better control to try to improve his numbers, but at least asthma is a more static condition. CF, of course, is not. So Shawn had dramatic change in small airways (suggestive of asthma) but very little change in fev1 (so that is a little harder to gauge.)
 
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