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katie4byz

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My son of 9 has had 3 boarderline sweat test so went to genetics 8 weeks ago, got a call today to bring him in next week as a gene of Delta F508 has shown up and need to see Dr to explain more... she said his bloods are now going to go for more a in depth screening so in the mean time I have no idea what this means is he CF or not am confused and nobody to ask.
If anybody has any help or suggestions or understands what Delta F508 is then please reply and let me know am a very scared and confused mum.
 

katie4byz

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My son of 9 has had 3 boarderline sweat test so went to genetics 8 weeks ago, got a call today to bring him in next week as a gene of Delta F508 has shown up and need to see Dr to explain more... she said his bloods are now going to go for more a in depth screening so in the mean time I have no idea what this means is he CF or not am confused and nobody to ask.
If anybody has any help or suggestions or understands what Delta F508 is then please reply and let me know am a very scared and confused mum.
 

Aboveallislove

Super Moderator
Dear Katie,

here's my understanding and hopefully others can help too. Generally to have CF you need 2 mutations. There are over 1000 but usually they only test for the most common at first. The delta F508 is one of the most common. so they are going to be looking for one of the much rare ones. If he has one of the rarer ones than they will likely diagnosis with CF. BUT several things to keep in mind: If his sweat choloride is borderline then his genes are functioning somewhat. The fact that he is 9 before the diagnosis means that's true too, so most likely he'll have a less serious form. And once you know you can treat! But the blood test could also be negative. There are rare cases where someone has one gene and is considered CF, but again very very rare, so just having the one delta f508 does NOT mean he has CF.

Our son has two copies of d508. And I know how hard this wait is. We knew that he had 2 copies from new born screen but I had no idea what that meant and i asked both our peditrician and brother-in-law if that meant he had CF and first said "no, it is a screen" and second hemmed and hawed and wouldn't answer point blank. It was horrible. I wanted the facts. This disease sucks BUT there is a ton they can do to keep your son healthy IF he has it AND they are so close to a "CURE". But the one copy of delta 508 does not mean he has CF.

Please write more if there is anything more I can tell you and I'm sure others with more experience can add/or modify anything they think. I'm just trying to put out there my understanding of it.
 

Aboveallislove

Super Moderator
Dear Katie,

here's my understanding and hopefully others can help too. Generally to have CF you need 2 mutations. There are over 1000 but usually they only test for the most common at first. The delta F508 is one of the most common. so they are going to be looking for one of the much rare ones. If he has one of the rarer ones than they will likely diagnosis with CF. BUT several things to keep in mind: If his sweat choloride is borderline then his genes are functioning somewhat. The fact that he is 9 before the diagnosis means that's true too, so most likely he'll have a less serious form. And once you know you can treat! But the blood test could also be negative. There are rare cases where someone has one gene and is considered CF, but again very very rare, so just having the one delta f508 does NOT mean he has CF.

Our son has two copies of d508. And I know how hard this wait is. We knew that he had 2 copies from new born screen but I had no idea what that meant and i asked both our peditrician and brother-in-law if that meant he had CF and first said "no, it is a screen" and second hemmed and hawed and wouldn't answer point blank. It was horrible. I wanted the facts. This disease sucks BUT there is a ton they can do to keep your son healthy IF he has it AND they are so close to a "CURE". But the one copy of delta 508 does not mean he has CF.

Please write more if there is anything more I can tell you and I'm sure others with more experience can add/or modify anything they think. I'm just trying to put out there my understanding of it.
 

Printer

Active member
As a function of cost, your Doctor (insurance company) screened only for the MOST COMMON mutations. Delta F508 is the MOST COMMON of all the mutations. There are somewhere between 1500 and 1900 CF mutations. Your Doctor will now do a FULL CF SEQUENCING, a screening of ALL KNOWN mutations.

At this point in time we KNOW that your son is a CF carrier. We also KNOW that you or your husband is also a CF Carrier and that person also has the Delta F508 mutation.

Bill
 

Printer

Active member
As a function of cost, your Doctor (insurance company) screened only for the MOST COMMON mutations. Delta F508 is the MOST COMMON of all the mutations. There are somewhere between 1500 and 1900 CF mutations. Your Doctor will now do a FULL CF SEQUENCING, a screening of ALL KNOWN mutations.

At this point in time we KNOW that your son is a CF carrier. We also KNOW that you or your husband is also a CF Carrier and that person also has the Delta F508 mutation.

Bill
 

katie4byz

New member
Ok so if he has delta f508 and at this point is a carrier then why are me and my husband?
So am I right in thinking that if another mutation is not found he wont get diagnosed with CF??
He has always suffered with his chest but nobody ever sent for test as they said he had severe asthma only when he had pneumonia a couple of months ago did they do anything.
Am I right in hearing that even if they only have the one gene but have syptoms or problems they still get dianosed CF?
 

katie4byz

New member
Ok so if he has delta f508 and at this point is a carrier then why are me and my husband?
So am I right in thinking that if another mutation is not found he wont get diagnosed with CF??
He has always suffered with his chest but nobody ever sent for test as they said he had severe asthma only when he had pneumonia a couple of months ago did they do anything.
Am I right in hearing that even if they only have the one gene but have syptoms or problems they still get dianosed CF?
 

kitomd21

New member
Hi Katie - sorry for your stress!!

In order to have CF you must have two copies of a CFTR gene mutation (i.e., can be the same mutation, can be two different mutations). If you are a CF gene carrier (or CFTR mutation carrier; i.e., any one of the the 1000+ mutations) then you do not have CF. Either you or your husband passed on the delta 508 gene because ONE of you is a carrier - your son wouldn't carry delta 508 if he didn't get it from one of you. Not sure how much more in depth you're hoping for...could go much deeper into genetics if you'd prefer. Just don't want to type that much if I don't have to! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

CF can still be diagnosed via sweat test if the full sequence testing fails to identify another mutation for the CFTR gene. If a sweat test is borderline with only one CFTR mutation identified then they have CFTR-related metabolic syndrome (CRMS). Of course, symptoms aid in diagnosis with these cases as well...
 

kitomd21

New member
Hi Katie - sorry for your stress!!

In order to have CF you must have two copies of a CFTR gene mutation (i.e., can be the same mutation, can be two different mutations). If you are a CF gene carrier (or CFTR mutation carrier; i.e., any one of the the 1000+ mutations) then you do not have CF. Either you or your husband passed on the delta 508 gene because ONE of you is a carrier - your son wouldn't carry delta 508 if he didn't get it from one of you. Not sure how much more in depth you're hoping for...could go much deeper into genetics if you'd prefer. Just don't want to type that much if I don't have to! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

CF can still be diagnosed via sweat test if the full sequence testing fails to identify another mutation for the CFTR gene. If a sweat test is borderline with only one CFTR mutation identified then they have CFTR-related metabolic syndrome (CRMS). Of course, symptoms aid in diagnosis with these cases as well...
 

katie4byz

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Thank you for your message am keen to know and learn as much as I can for next week when we see the doctor, He has 3 boardedline sweat tests and d508 but now waitin to see if he has anymore so not sure what they will say in the mean time, hes alwasy had severe asthma but no other probs xx
 

katie4byz

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Thank you for your message am keen to know and learn as much as I can for next week when we see the doctor, He has 3 boardedline sweat tests and d508 but now waitin to see if he has anymore so not sure what they will say in the mean time, hes alwasy had severe asthma but no other probs xx
 
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