Restaurants: Smoking

jfarel

New member
I know in some states smoking is banned from restaurants but in my state it is not. Do you guys eat at restaurants that have non smoking sections but still allow smokers?
 

jfarel

New member
I know in some states smoking is banned from restaurants but in my state it is not. Do you guys eat at restaurants that have non smoking sections but still allow smokers?
 

jfarel

New member
I know in some states smoking is banned from restaurants but in my state it is not. Do you guys eat at restaurants that have non smoking sections but still allow smokers?
 

jfarel

New member
I know in some states smoking is banned from restaurants but in my state it is not. Do you guys eat at restaurants that have non smoking sections but still allow smokers?
 

jfarel

New member
I know in some states smoking is banned from restaurants but in my state it is not. Do you guys eat at restaurants that have non smoking sections but still allow smokers?
 

Ratatosk

Administrator
Staff member
Our state allows smoking in bars within restaurants, provided the bar is enclosed. A number of restaurants have switched to no smoking on the premises. I refuse to go to any restaurant that allows smoking on the premises because time and time again the door to the bar gets left open and the smoke wafts out into the main restaurant area. The smoking regulations just aren't enforced <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif" border="0"> Last spring I met some relatives at a TGIFridays and I should've just walked out the door when I smelled the smoke, but I thought once I got into the main restaurant area, we'd be okay. Wrong -- back door of the bar was left open. Bleah.

Prior to the changes to the smoking laws, there were a few newer restaurants, which had separate air handling systems within their bar area, so second hand smoke didn't seem to be an issue.
 

Ratatosk

Administrator
Staff member
Our state allows smoking in bars within restaurants, provided the bar is enclosed. A number of restaurants have switched to no smoking on the premises. I refuse to go to any restaurant that allows smoking on the premises because time and time again the door to the bar gets left open and the smoke wafts out into the main restaurant area. The smoking regulations just aren't enforced <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif" border="0"> Last spring I met some relatives at a TGIFridays and I should've just walked out the door when I smelled the smoke, but I thought once I got into the main restaurant area, we'd be okay. Wrong -- back door of the bar was left open. Bleah.

Prior to the changes to the smoking laws, there were a few newer restaurants, which had separate air handling systems within their bar area, so second hand smoke didn't seem to be an issue.
 

Ratatosk

Administrator
Staff member
Our state allows smoking in bars within restaurants, provided the bar is enclosed. A number of restaurants have switched to no smoking on the premises. I refuse to go to any restaurant that allows smoking on the premises because time and time again the door to the bar gets left open and the smoke wafts out into the main restaurant area. The smoking regulations just aren't enforced <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif" border="0"> Last spring I met some relatives at a TGIFridays and I should've just walked out the door when I smelled the smoke, but I thought once I got into the main restaurant area, we'd be okay. Wrong -- back door of the bar was left open. Bleah.

Prior to the changes to the smoking laws, there were a few newer restaurants, which had separate air handling systems within their bar area, so second hand smoke didn't seem to be an issue.
 

Ratatosk

Administrator
Staff member
Our state allows smoking in bars within restaurants, provided the bar is enclosed. A number of restaurants have switched to no smoking on the premises. I refuse to go to any restaurant that allows smoking on the premises because time and time again the door to the bar gets left open and the smoke wafts out into the main restaurant area. The smoking regulations just aren't enforced <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif" border="0"> Last spring I met some relatives at a TGIFridays and I should've just walked out the door when I smelled the smoke, but I thought once I got into the main restaurant area, we'd be okay. Wrong -- back door of the bar was left open. Bleah.

Prior to the changes to the smoking laws, there were a few newer restaurants, which had separate air handling systems within their bar area, so second hand smoke didn't seem to be an issue.
 

Ratatosk

Administrator
Staff member
Our state allows smoking in bars within restaurants, provided the bar is enclosed. A number of restaurants have switched to no smoking on the premises. I refuse to go to any restaurant that allows smoking on the premises because time and time again the door to the bar gets left open and the smoke wafts out into the main restaurant area. The smoking regulations just aren't enforced <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif" border="0"> Last spring I met some relatives at a TGIFridays and I should've just walked out the door when I smelled the smoke, but I thought once I got into the main restaurant area, we'd be okay. Wrong -- back door of the bar was left open. Bleah.

Prior to the changes to the smoking laws, there were a few newer restaurants, which had separate air handling systems within their bar area, so second hand smoke didn't seem to be an issue.
 
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65rosessamurai

Guest
Currently, Japan has been dividing the smoking from the non-smoking with an added "barrrier"" of some sort. However, some of those "barriers" are lacking in common sense and the smoke lingers into the "non-smoking" sections. I don't know until I get into the restaurant, so when that happens, I don't go there again...

But, what really frustrates me the most is when I'm going into the subway, which I have to use to commute to work, people disregard the "non-smoking" signs within the corridor, or they disregard not smoking in the "smokers area". I take it that the police, or security, don't enforce the rules that they make. My wife askes me not to approach those kind of people because of the kind of news about the rise in violent crimes, rather to go and tell the authority (police or security). However, just like in the states, they're never around when you NEED them!

I hope they start making more laws (and enforcing them) for non-smokers to have cleaner and cancer-free air! My thought about all this is that smoking was never considered a "healthy habit", so it should inconvenience the smokers for the sake of the non-smokers...am I right?!
 
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65rosessamurai

Guest
Currently, Japan has been dividing the smoking from the non-smoking with an added "barrrier"" of some sort. However, some of those "barriers" are lacking in common sense and the smoke lingers into the "non-smoking" sections. I don't know until I get into the restaurant, so when that happens, I don't go there again...

But, what really frustrates me the most is when I'm going into the subway, which I have to use to commute to work, people disregard the "non-smoking" signs within the corridor, or they disregard not smoking in the "smokers area". I take it that the police, or security, don't enforce the rules that they make. My wife askes me not to approach those kind of people because of the kind of news about the rise in violent crimes, rather to go and tell the authority (police or security). However, just like in the states, they're never around when you NEED them!

I hope they start making more laws (and enforcing them) for non-smokers to have cleaner and cancer-free air! My thought about all this is that smoking was never considered a "healthy habit", so it should inconvenience the smokers for the sake of the non-smokers...am I right?!
 
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65rosessamurai

Guest
Currently, Japan has been dividing the smoking from the non-smoking with an added "barrrier"" of some sort. However, some of those "barriers" are lacking in common sense and the smoke lingers into the "non-smoking" sections. I don't know until I get into the restaurant, so when that happens, I don't go there again...

But, what really frustrates me the most is when I'm going into the subway, which I have to use to commute to work, people disregard the "non-smoking" signs within the corridor, or they disregard not smoking in the "smokers area". I take it that the police, or security, don't enforce the rules that they make. My wife askes me not to approach those kind of people because of the kind of news about the rise in violent crimes, rather to go and tell the authority (police or security). However, just like in the states, they're never around when you NEED them!

I hope they start making more laws (and enforcing them) for non-smokers to have cleaner and cancer-free air! My thought about all this is that smoking was never considered a "healthy habit", so it should inconvenience the smokers for the sake of the non-smokers...am I right?!
 
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65rosessamurai

Guest
Currently, Japan has been dividing the smoking from the non-smoking with an added "barrrier"" of some sort. However, some of those "barriers" are lacking in common sense and the smoke lingers into the "non-smoking" sections. I don't know until I get into the restaurant, so when that happens, I don't go there again...

But, what really frustrates me the most is when I'm going into the subway, which I have to use to commute to work, people disregard the "non-smoking" signs within the corridor, or they disregard not smoking in the "smokers area". I take it that the police, or security, don't enforce the rules that they make. My wife askes me not to approach those kind of people because of the kind of news about the rise in violent crimes, rather to go and tell the authority (police or security). However, just like in the states, they're never around when you NEED them!

I hope they start making more laws (and enforcing them) for non-smokers to have cleaner and cancer-free air! My thought about all this is that smoking was never considered a "healthy habit", so it should inconvenience the smokers for the sake of the non-smokers...am I right?!
 
6

65rosessamurai

Guest
Currently, Japan has been dividing the smoking from the non-smoking with an added "barrrier"" of some sort. However, some of those "barriers" are lacking in common sense and the smoke lingers into the "non-smoking" sections. I don't know until I get into the restaurant, so when that happens, I don't go there again...

But, what really frustrates me the most is when I'm going into the subway, which I have to use to commute to work, people disregard the "non-smoking" signs within the corridor, or they disregard not smoking in the "smokers area". I take it that the police, or security, don't enforce the rules that they make. My wife askes me not to approach those kind of people because of the kind of news about the rise in violent crimes, rather to go and tell the authority (police or security). However, just like in the states, they're never around when you NEED them!

I hope they start making more laws (and enforcing them) for non-smokers to have cleaner and cancer-free air! My thought about all this is that smoking was never considered a "healthy habit", so it should inconvenience the smokers for the sake of the non-smokers...am I right?!
 

Ratatosk

Administrator
Staff member
I did contact the "tobacco enforcement" officer at the City where the TGIFridays was located and got a response that "they'll remind them again to close the door". And from what I understand, that establishment is still violating the regs and I'll continue to boycott them. There's also a local steakhouse in town that does the same thing, but all they do is bring them a set of regulations and tell them to close the door to the bar. They have the ability to cite the business into court and fine them, but so far I haven't heard of places being cited.
 

Ratatosk

Administrator
Staff member
I did contact the "tobacco enforcement" officer at the City where the TGIFridays was located and got a response that "they'll remind them again to close the door". And from what I understand, that establishment is still violating the regs and I'll continue to boycott them. There's also a local steakhouse in town that does the same thing, but all they do is bring them a set of regulations and tell them to close the door to the bar. They have the ability to cite the business into court and fine them, but so far I haven't heard of places being cited.
 

Ratatosk

Administrator
Staff member
I did contact the "tobacco enforcement" officer at the City where the TGIFridays was located and got a response that "they'll remind them again to close the door". And from what I understand, that establishment is still violating the regs and I'll continue to boycott them. There's also a local steakhouse in town that does the same thing, but all they do is bring them a set of regulations and tell them to close the door to the bar. They have the ability to cite the business into court and fine them, but so far I haven't heard of places being cited.
 

Ratatosk

Administrator
Staff member
I did contact the "tobacco enforcement" officer at the City where the TGIFridays was located and got a response that "they'll remind them again to close the door". And from what I understand, that establishment is still violating the regs and I'll continue to boycott them. There's also a local steakhouse in town that does the same thing, but all they do is bring them a set of regulations and tell them to close the door to the bar. They have the ability to cite the business into court and fine them, but so far I haven't heard of places being cited.
 

Ratatosk

Administrator
Staff member
I did contact the "tobacco enforcement" officer at the City where the TGIFridays was located and got a response that "they'll remind them again to close the door". And from what I understand, that establishment is still violating the regs and I'll continue to boycott them. There's also a local steakhouse in town that does the same thing, but all they do is bring them a set of regulations and tell them to close the door to the bar. They have the ability to cite the business into court and fine them, but so far I haven't heard of places being cited.
 
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