Something to ponder

Faust · Oct 2, 2007

I was responding to Wander's thread with this, bust figured it would derail the original thread for the most part, so figured i'd start a new one...

I just got done with deep discussion regarding the purpose of man, biology, etc, and thought of this...

Here's the thing. We have faulty programming. We are basically supposed to be the ones that die early on, and not spread our genes. Same goes for other diseased people. Of course we command modern medicine, and have an ability to fight against that end. Is that right? Predators constantly eat the weak and diseased all the time that ends up keeping a target population strong and thriving. Are we any different? To be honest, it's too bad we (humans) aren't culled more often, and in much larger quantities. We have almost 7 billion people here now, most of which don't have enough food or water or sustainable shelter to survive. While we like ourselves and love our existence, and our friends and family will miss us...Does it really matter if we die from CF? And i'm not a hypocrit. To be honest, if it meant that us as a race, would have a better chance at not being the all consuming virus that we now apparently have become, i'd sacrifice right away, as the first one.

But we all want to feel we are all special little snowflakes. And aside from religious (something hard to do here it seems) upbringing, why do you feel you are so much more special than the other 6,999,999,999 people on earth? All of which I am sure all feel they are special also. I have done some seemingly special/nice/maybe even wondrous things in my life...But i'm sure within the first 1000-5000 comparisons to other human beings out of that 7 billion, what I have done and said, is just as utterly non-special as johnny six pack ***** who's only goal is to drink more beer and pick his nose and not think of anything. The funny thing is, instead of feeling all depressed about increasingly feeling I don't matter at all, I find it totally hysterical and find more things in life totally amusing, and laugh inducing.

If people want to feel a particular way, if it helps them get through the day/night (like my previous comments on religion/drugs/etc), more power to them. Whatever crutch you need to help you continue to keep "keepin on". I'm not saying we should all give up and run off cliffs like lemmings...I'm just saying we should maybe have more humility, keep living (if you want), but our individual existences might be nothing more than a collection of memories and emotions...All meaningless when viewed outside our immediate needs and social structure.

This my friends, is why I really like beer. No matter how pointless, or utterly doom pointed our existence as humans seem...I can always drink a wonderful beer...Pause a moment, and hear a baby laugh...And even in that moment of realizing there is utterly no real point, I do indeed briefly smile.

Faust · Oct 2, 2007

I was responding to Wander's thread with this, bust figured it would derail the original thread for the most part, so figured i'd start a new one...

I just got done with deep discussion regarding the purpose of man, biology, etc, and thought of this...

Here's the thing. We have faulty programming. We are basically supposed to be the ones that die early on, and not spread our genes. Same goes for other diseased people. Of course we command modern medicine, and have an ability to fight against that end. Is that right? Predators constantly eat the weak and diseased all the time that ends up keeping a target population strong and thriving. Are we any different? To be honest, it's too bad we (humans) aren't culled more often, and in much larger quantities. We have almost 7 billion people here now, most of which don't have enough food or water or sustainable shelter to survive. While we like ourselves and love our existence, and our friends and family will miss us...Does it really matter if we die from CF? And i'm not a hypocrit. To be honest, if it meant that us as a race, would have a better chance at not being the all consuming virus that we now apparently have become, i'd sacrifice right away, as the first one.

But we all want to feel we are all special little snowflakes. And aside from religious (something hard to do here it seems) upbringing, why do you feel you are so much more special than the other 6,999,999,999 people on earth? All of which I am sure all feel they are special also. I have done some seemingly special/nice/maybe even wondrous things in my life...But i'm sure within the first 1000-5000 comparisons to other human beings out of that 7 billion, what I have done and said, is just as utterly non-special as johnny six pack ***** who's only goal is to drink more beer and pick his nose and not think of anything. The funny thing is, instead of feeling all depressed about increasingly feeling I don't matter at all, I find it totally hysterical and find more things in life totally amusing, and laugh inducing.

If people want to feel a particular way, if it helps them get through the day/night (like my previous comments on religion/drugs/etc), more power to them. Whatever crutch you need to help you continue to keep "keepin on". I'm not saying we should all give up and run off cliffs like lemmings...I'm just saying we should maybe have more humility, keep living (if you want), but our individual existences might be nothing more than a collection of memories and emotions...All meaningless when viewed outside our immediate needs and social structure.

This my friends, is why I really like beer. No matter how pointless, or utterly doom pointed our existence as humans seem...I can always drink a wonderful beer...Pause a moment, and hear a baby laugh...And even in that moment of realizing there is utterly no real point, I do indeed briefly smile.

Faust · Oct 2, 2007

I was responding to Wander's thread with this, bust figured it would derail the original thread for the most part, so figured i'd start a new one...

I just got done with deep discussion regarding the purpose of man, biology, etc, and thought of this...

Here's the thing. We have faulty programming. We are basically supposed to be the ones that die early on, and not spread our genes. Same goes for other diseased people. Of course we command modern medicine, and have an ability to fight against that end. Is that right? Predators constantly eat the weak and diseased all the time that ends up keeping a target population strong and thriving. Are we any different? To be honest, it's too bad we (humans) aren't culled more often, and in much larger quantities. We have almost 7 billion people here now, most of which don't have enough food or water or sustainable shelter to survive. While we like ourselves and love our existence, and our friends and family will miss us...Does it really matter if we die from CF? And i'm not a hypocrit. To be honest, if it meant that us as a race, would have a better chance at not being the all consuming virus that we now apparently have become, i'd sacrifice right away, as the first one.

But we all want to feel we are all special little snowflakes. And aside from religious (something hard to do here it seems) upbringing, why do you feel you are so much more special than the other 6,999,999,999 people on earth? All of which I am sure all feel they are special also. I have done some seemingly special/nice/maybe even wondrous things in my life...But i'm sure within the first 1000-5000 comparisons to other human beings out of that 7 billion, what I have done and said, is just as utterly non-special as johnny six pack ***** who's only goal is to drink more beer and pick his nose and not think of anything. The funny thing is, instead of feeling all depressed about increasingly feeling I don't matter at all, I find it totally hysterical and find more things in life totally amusing, and laugh inducing.

If people want to feel a particular way, if it helps them get through the day/night (like my previous comments on religion/drugs/etc), more power to them. Whatever crutch you need to help you continue to keep "keepin on". I'm not saying we should all give up and run off cliffs like lemmings...I'm just saying we should maybe have more humility, keep living (if you want), but our individual existences might be nothing more than a collection of memories and emotions...All meaningless when viewed outside our immediate needs and social structure.

This my friends, is why I really like beer. No matter how pointless, or utterly doom pointed our existence as humans seem...I can always drink a wonderful beer...Pause a moment, and hear a baby laugh...And even in that moment of realizing there is utterly no real point, I do indeed briefly smile.

Faust · Oct 2, 2007

I was responding to Wander's thread with this, bust figured it would derail the original thread for the most part, so figured i'd start a new one...

I just got done with deep discussion regarding the purpose of man, biology, etc, and thought of this...

Here's the thing. We have faulty programming. We are basically supposed to be the ones that die early on, and not spread our genes. Same goes for other diseased people. Of course we command modern medicine, and have an ability to fight against that end. Is that right? Predators constantly eat the weak and diseased all the time that ends up keeping a target population strong and thriving. Are we any different? To be honest, it's too bad we (humans) aren't culled more often, and in much larger quantities. We have almost 7 billion people here now, most of which don't have enough food or water or sustainable shelter to survive. While we like ourselves and love our existence, and our friends and family will miss us...Does it really matter if we die from CF? And i'm not a hypocrit. To be honest, if it meant that us as a race, would have a better chance at not being the all consuming virus that we now apparently have become, i'd sacrifice right away, as the first one.

But we all want to feel we are all special little snowflakes. And aside from religious (something hard to do here it seems) upbringing, why do you feel you are so much more special than the other 6,999,999,999 people on earth? All of which I am sure all feel they are special also. I have done some seemingly special/nice/maybe even wondrous things in my life...But i'm sure within the first 1000-5000 comparisons to other human beings out of that 7 billion, what I have done and said, is just as utterly non-special as johnny six pack ***** who's only goal is to drink more beer and pick his nose and not think of anything. The funny thing is, instead of feeling all depressed about increasingly feeling I don't matter at all, I find it totally hysterical and find more things in life totally amusing, and laugh inducing.

If people want to feel a particular way, if it helps them get through the day/night (like my previous comments on religion/drugs/etc), more power to them. Whatever crutch you need to help you continue to keep "keepin on". I'm not saying we should all give up and run off cliffs like lemmings...I'm just saying we should maybe have more humility, keep living (if you want), but our individual existences might be nothing more than a collection of memories and emotions...All meaningless when viewed outside our immediate needs and social structure.

This my friends, is why I really like beer. No matter how pointless, or utterly doom pointed our existence as humans seem...I can always drink a wonderful beer...Pause a moment, and hear a baby laugh...And even in that moment of realizing there is utterly no real point, I do indeed briefly smile.

Faust · Oct 2, 2007

I was responding to Wander's thread with this, bust figured it would derail the original thread for the most part, so figured i'd start a new one...

I just got done with deep discussion regarding the purpose of man, biology, etc, and thought of this...

Here's the thing. We have faulty programming. We are basically supposed to be the ones that die early on, and not spread our genes. Same goes for other diseased people. Of course we command modern medicine, and have an ability to fight against that end. Is that right? Predators constantly eat the weak and diseased all the time that ends up keeping a target population strong and thriving. Are we any different? To be honest, it's too bad we (humans) aren't culled more often, and in much larger quantities. We have almost 7 billion people here now, most of which don't have enough food or water or sustainable shelter to survive. While we like ourselves and love our existence, and our friends and family will miss us...Does it really matter if we die from CF? And i'm not a hypocrit. To be honest, if it meant that us as a race, would have a better chance at not being the all consuming virus that we now apparently have become, i'd sacrifice right away, as the first one.

But we all want to feel we are all special little snowflakes. And aside from religious (something hard to do here it seems) upbringing, why do you feel you are so much more special than the other 6,999,999,999 people on earth? All of which I am sure all feel they are special also. I have done some seemingly special/nice/maybe even wondrous things in my life...But i'm sure within the first 1000-5000 comparisons to other human beings out of that 7 billion, what I have done and said, is just as utterly non-special as johnny six pack ***** who's only goal is to drink more beer and pick his nose and not think of anything. The funny thing is, instead of feeling all depressed about increasingly feeling I don't matter at all, I find it totally hysterical and find more things in life totally amusing, and laugh inducing.

If people want to feel a particular way, if it helps them get through the day/night (like my previous comments on religion/drugs/etc), more power to them. Whatever crutch you need to help you continue to keep "keepin on". I'm not saying we should all give up and run off cliffs like lemmings...I'm just saying we should maybe have more humility, keep living (if you want), but our individual existences might be nothing more than a collection of memories and emotions...All meaningless when viewed outside our immediate needs and social structure.

This my friends, is why I really like beer. No matter how pointless, or utterly doom pointed our existence as humans seem...I can always drink a wonderful beer...Pause a moment, and hear a baby laugh...And even in that moment of realizing there is utterly no real point, I do indeed briefly smile.

65rosessamurai · Oct 2, 2007

Hmm....
In the first place, you seem to forget the main purpose of what doctors are for...to preserve the life of mankind (some of which "assume" the position of "God"), which would be why many of those with "terminal illnesses, or as you put it, "faulty programming" are not put aside from the rest of society, it would be considered "cruel and inhumane" to do so.
On a personal note, the only thing I see myself as "special" in comparison to any other "snowflake" in this cold world, is that I had been able to go beyond the expected lifespan, and make a small difference in the amount of packed snow that falls from the skies.
You would think that even though you may not change "the world", there is an impact on those you touch in your life...good or bad. Even "Johnny six pack ***** (was that five astericks?) is making his contribution to society by making the beer companies rich from his drinking problem (assuming it is a problem in the eyes of the rest of society). As for his nose picking, that could be a form of "self grooming" cause he couldn't find a tissue.
Too add to this...where would you be without the "insignificant guy" who invented the beer!!
(I could be sarcastic, I could be serious, I could be feeling nirvana right now while listening to my Journey Albums on my iPod while at work--Yikes! gotta get back to work, now!)
Enjoy your beer, and have one for me, since my liver is pretty much shot!

65rosessamurai · Oct 2, 2007

Hmm....
In the first place, you seem to forget the main purpose of what doctors are for...to preserve the life of mankind (some of which "assume" the position of "God"), which would be why many of those with "terminal illnesses, or as you put it, "faulty programming" are not put aside from the rest of society, it would be considered "cruel and inhumane" to do so.
On a personal note, the only thing I see myself as "special" in comparison to any other "snowflake" in this cold world, is that I had been able to go beyond the expected lifespan, and make a small difference in the amount of packed snow that falls from the skies.
You would think that even though you may not change "the world", there is an impact on those you touch in your life...good or bad. Even "Johnny six pack ***** (was that five astericks?) is making his contribution to society by making the beer companies rich from his drinking problem (assuming it is a problem in the eyes of the rest of society). As for his nose picking, that could be a form of "self grooming" cause he couldn't find a tissue.
Too add to this...where would you be without the "insignificant guy" who invented the beer!!
(I could be sarcastic, I could be serious, I could be feeling nirvana right now while listening to my Journey Albums on my iPod while at work--Yikes! gotta get back to work, now!)
Enjoy your beer, and have one for me, since my liver is pretty much shot!

65rosessamurai · Oct 2, 2007

Hmm....
In the first place, you seem to forget the main purpose of what doctors are for...to preserve the life of mankind (some of which "assume" the position of "God"), which would be why many of those with "terminal illnesses, or as you put it, "faulty programming" are not put aside from the rest of society, it would be considered "cruel and inhumane" to do so.
On a personal note, the only thing I see myself as "special" in comparison to any other "snowflake" in this cold world, is that I had been able to go beyond the expected lifespan, and make a small difference in the amount of packed snow that falls from the skies.
You would think that even though you may not change "the world", there is an impact on those you touch in your life...good or bad. Even "Johnny six pack ***** (was that five astericks?) is making his contribution to society by making the beer companies rich from his drinking problem (assuming it is a problem in the eyes of the rest of society). As for his nose picking, that could be a form of "self grooming" cause he couldn't find a tissue.
Too add to this...where would you be without the "insignificant guy" who invented the beer!!
(I could be sarcastic, I could be serious, I could be feeling nirvana right now while listening to my Journey Albums on my iPod while at work--Yikes! gotta get back to work, now!)
Enjoy your beer, and have one for me, since my liver is pretty much shot!

65rosessamurai · Oct 2, 2007

Hmm....
In the first place, you seem to forget the main purpose of what doctors are for...to preserve the life of mankind (some of which "assume" the position of "God"), which would be why many of those with "terminal illnesses, or as you put it, "faulty programming" are not put aside from the rest of society, it would be considered "cruel and inhumane" to do so.
On a personal note, the only thing I see myself as "special" in comparison to any other "snowflake" in this cold world, is that I had been able to go beyond the expected lifespan, and make a small difference in the amount of packed snow that falls from the skies.
You would think that even though you may not change "the world", there is an impact on those you touch in your life...good or bad. Even "Johnny six pack ***** (was that five astericks?) is making his contribution to society by making the beer companies rich from his drinking problem (assuming it is a problem in the eyes of the rest of society). As for his nose picking, that could be a form of "self grooming" cause he couldn't find a tissue.
Too add to this...where would you be without the "insignificant guy" who invented the beer!!
(I could be sarcastic, I could be serious, I could be feeling nirvana right now while listening to my Journey Albums on my iPod while at work--Yikes! gotta get back to work, now!)
Enjoy your beer, and have one for me, since my liver is pretty much shot!

65rosessamurai · Oct 2, 2007

Hmm....
In the first place, you seem to forget the main purpose of what doctors are for...to preserve the life of mankind (some of which "assume" the position of "God"), which would be why many of those with "terminal illnesses, or as you put it, "faulty programming" are not put aside from the rest of society, it would be considered "cruel and inhumane" to do so.
On a personal note, the only thing I see myself as "special" in comparison to any other "snowflake" in this cold world, is that I had been able to go beyond the expected lifespan, and make a small difference in the amount of packed snow that falls from the skies.
You would think that even though you may not change "the world", there is an impact on those you touch in your life...good or bad. Even "Johnny six pack ***** (was that five astericks?) is making his contribution to society by making the beer companies rich from his drinking problem (assuming it is a problem in the eyes of the rest of society). As for his nose picking, that could be a form of "self grooming" cause he couldn't find a tissue.
Too add to this...where would you be without the "insignificant guy" who invented the beer!!
(I could be sarcastic, I could be serious, I could be feeling nirvana right now while listening to my Journey Albums on my iPod while at work--Yikes! gotta get back to work, now!)
Enjoy your beer, and have one for me, since my liver is pretty much shot!

dyza · Oct 2, 2007