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jacksmom

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I know that warm water can harbor Pseudomonas aeruginosa, but I'm wondering how it actually gets into the lungs?
Does it become air born and get in the lungs when the kids breath? Is it ingested and once in the blood stream get into the lungs?
My son has yet to culture PA and I want to do all I can to keep it at bay as long as possible. In order to do that I need to understand all I can about PA.
Google serches have not come up with anything helpful.
I'm hoping some of you here know.
Thanks,
Carey
 
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jacksmom

New member
I know that warm water can harbor Pseudomonas aeruginosa, but I'm wondering how it actually gets into the lungs?
Does it become air born and get in the lungs when the kids breath? Is it ingested and once in the blood stream get into the lungs?
My son has yet to culture PA and I want to do all I can to keep it at bay as long as possible. In order to do that I need to understand all I can about PA.
Google serches have not come up with anything helpful.
I'm hoping some of you here know.
Thanks,
Carey
 
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jacksmom

New member
I know that warm water can harbor Pseudomonas aeruginosa, but I'm wondering how it actually gets into the lungs?
Does it become air born and get in the lungs when the kids breath? Is it ingested and once in the blood stream get into the lungs?
My son has yet to culture PA and I want to do all I can to keep it at bay as long as possible. In order to do that I need to understand all I can about PA.
Google serches have not come up with anything helpful.
I'm hoping some of you here know.
Thanks,
Carey
 
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jacksmom

New member
I know that warm water can harbor Pseudomonas aeruginosa, but I'm wondering how it actually gets into the lungs?
Does it become air born and get in the lungs when the kids breath? Is it ingested and once in the blood stream get into the lungs?
My son has yet to culture PA and I want to do all I can to keep it at bay as long as possible. In order to do that I need to understand all I can about PA.
Google serches have not come up with anything helpful.
I'm hoping some of you here know.
Thanks,
Carey
 
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jacksmom

New member
I know that warm water can harbor Pseudomonas aeruginosa, but I'm wondering how it actually gets into the lungs?
<br />Does it become air born and get in the lungs when the kids breath? Is it ingested and once in the blood stream get into the lungs?
<br />My son has yet to culture PA and I want to do all I can to keep it at bay as long as possible. In order to do that I need to understand all I can about PA.
<br />Google serches have not come up with anything helpful.
<br />I'm hoping some of you here know.
<br />Thanks,
<br />Carey
 
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just1more

New member
This 'heavy' micro-biology summary gives a scientific answer:

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.textbookofbacteriology.net/pseudomonas.html
">http://www.textbookofbacteriology.net/pseudomonas.html
</a>
In normal terms, basically they don't know how it happens most of the time. PA likes to bind to damaged tissue and then grow from there, so there is a strong indication that it likely inhaled by a CF and binds to the damaged tissues.

However, they state that given that it is so common in the environment that there are countless other options. Including getting PA in a burn or wound (though no mention of these then moving to the lungs of a CF'r).

Beyond that, sorry as I'm not sure how to protect your little one and it doesn't look like there is a clear answer. DS first cultured PA while living in the high-desert east of LA so I find it hard to think there were many swamps around so we haven't a clue where he got it.
 
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just1more

New member
This 'heavy' micro-biology summary gives a scientific answer:

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.textbookofbacteriology.net/pseudomonas.html
">http://www.textbookofbacteriology.net/pseudomonas.html
</a>
In normal terms, basically they don't know how it happens most of the time. PA likes to bind to damaged tissue and then grow from there, so there is a strong indication that it likely inhaled by a CF and binds to the damaged tissues.

However, they state that given that it is so common in the environment that there are countless other options. Including getting PA in a burn or wound (though no mention of these then moving to the lungs of a CF'r).

Beyond that, sorry as I'm not sure how to protect your little one and it doesn't look like there is a clear answer. DS first cultured PA while living in the high-desert east of LA so I find it hard to think there were many swamps around so we haven't a clue where he got it.
 
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just1more

New member
This 'heavy' micro-biology summary gives a scientific answer:

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.textbookofbacteriology.net/pseudomonas.html
">http://www.textbookofbacteriology.net/pseudomonas.html
</a>
In normal terms, basically they don't know how it happens most of the time. PA likes to bind to damaged tissue and then grow from there, so there is a strong indication that it likely inhaled by a CF and binds to the damaged tissues.

However, they state that given that it is so common in the environment that there are countless other options. Including getting PA in a burn or wound (though no mention of these then moving to the lungs of a CF'r).

Beyond that, sorry as I'm not sure how to protect your little one and it doesn't look like there is a clear answer. DS first cultured PA while living in the high-desert east of LA so I find it hard to think there were many swamps around so we haven't a clue where he got it.
 
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just1more

New member
This 'heavy' micro-biology summary gives a scientific answer:

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.textbookofbacteriology.net/pseudomonas.html
">http://www.textbookofbacteriology.net/pseudomonas.html
</a>
In normal terms, basically they don't know how it happens most of the time. PA likes to bind to damaged tissue and then grow from there, so there is a strong indication that it likely inhaled by a CF and binds to the damaged tissues.

However, they state that given that it is so common in the environment that there are countless other options. Including getting PA in a burn or wound (though no mention of these then moving to the lungs of a CF'r).

Beyond that, sorry as I'm not sure how to protect your little one and it doesn't look like there is a clear answer. DS first cultured PA while living in the high-desert east of LA so I find it hard to think there were many swamps around so we haven't a clue where he got it.
 
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just1more

New member
This 'heavy' micro-biology summary gives a scientific answer:
<br />
<br /><a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.textbookofbacteriology.net/pseudomonas.html
">http://www.textbookofbacteriology.net/pseudomonas.html
</a><br />
<br />In normal terms, basically they don't know how it happens most of the time. PA likes to bind to damaged tissue and then grow from there, so there is a strong indication that it likely inhaled by a CF and binds to the damaged tissues.
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<br />However, they state that given that it is so common in the environment that there are countless other options. Including getting PA in a burn or wound (though no mention of these then moving to the lungs of a CF'r).
<br />
<br />Beyond that, sorry as I'm not sure how to protect your little one and it doesn't look like there is a clear answer. DS first cultured PA while living in the high-desert east of LA so I find it hard to think there were many swamps around so we haven't a clue where he got it.
 
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Alyssa

New member
Ditto to Tom's post.

Although I didn't read the article, his description is pretty close to how I understood the possibility of getting it.

Just do the best you can by taking the precautions established by the CFF for cleaning neb cups and use common sense for other situation and hope for the best. Our doc described it as "everywhere" in the environment and the lungs of a person with CF being more susceptible to PA because of the extra mucus hanging around providing a nice moist place for PA to set up shop...PA is an opportunistic bacteria which is present all around a person every day...you can drive yourself insane trying to figure out how to prevent it from happening.

We take extra care to make sure that our bathroom and kitchen sinks and counters are kept dry and toothbrushes are stored upright so they dry out after each use. We also wash our hands (or use hand sanitizer) often, and like I mentioned above, follow the guidelines for cleaning of neb cups. That's about all I can think of that might help.
 
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Alyssa

New member
Ditto to Tom's post.

Although I didn't read the article, his description is pretty close to how I understood the possibility of getting it.

Just do the best you can by taking the precautions established by the CFF for cleaning neb cups and use common sense for other situation and hope for the best. Our doc described it as "everywhere" in the environment and the lungs of a person with CF being more susceptible to PA because of the extra mucus hanging around providing a nice moist place for PA to set up shop...PA is an opportunistic bacteria which is present all around a person every day...you can drive yourself insane trying to figure out how to prevent it from happening.

We take extra care to make sure that our bathroom and kitchen sinks and counters are kept dry and toothbrushes are stored upright so they dry out after each use. We also wash our hands (or use hand sanitizer) often, and like I mentioned above, follow the guidelines for cleaning of neb cups. That's about all I can think of that might help.
 
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Alyssa

New member
Ditto to Tom's post.

Although I didn't read the article, his description is pretty close to how I understood the possibility of getting it.

Just do the best you can by taking the precautions established by the CFF for cleaning neb cups and use common sense for other situation and hope for the best. Our doc described it as "everywhere" in the environment and the lungs of a person with CF being more susceptible to PA because of the extra mucus hanging around providing a nice moist place for PA to set up shop...PA is an opportunistic bacteria which is present all around a person every day...you can drive yourself insane trying to figure out how to prevent it from happening.

We take extra care to make sure that our bathroom and kitchen sinks and counters are kept dry and toothbrushes are stored upright so they dry out after each use. We also wash our hands (or use hand sanitizer) often, and like I mentioned above, follow the guidelines for cleaning of neb cups. That's about all I can think of that might help.
 
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Alyssa

New member
Ditto to Tom's post.

Although I didn't read the article, his description is pretty close to how I understood the possibility of getting it.

Just do the best you can by taking the precautions established by the CFF for cleaning neb cups and use common sense for other situation and hope for the best. Our doc described it as "everywhere" in the environment and the lungs of a person with CF being more susceptible to PA because of the extra mucus hanging around providing a nice moist place for PA to set up shop...PA is an opportunistic bacteria which is present all around a person every day...you can drive yourself insane trying to figure out how to prevent it from happening.

We take extra care to make sure that our bathroom and kitchen sinks and counters are kept dry and toothbrushes are stored upright so they dry out after each use. We also wash our hands (or use hand sanitizer) often, and like I mentioned above, follow the guidelines for cleaning of neb cups. That's about all I can think of that might help.
 
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Alyssa

New member
Ditto to Tom's post.
<br />
<br />Although I didn't read the article, his description is pretty close to how I understood the possibility of getting it.
<br />
<br />Just do the best you can by taking the precautions established by the CFF for cleaning neb cups and use common sense for other situation and hope for the best. Our doc described it as "everywhere" in the environment and the lungs of a person with CF being more susceptible to PA because of the extra mucus hanging around providing a nice moist place for PA to set up shop...PA is an opportunistic bacteria which is present all around a person every day...you can drive yourself insane trying to figure out how to prevent it from happening.
<br />
<br />We take extra care to make sure that our bathroom and kitchen sinks and counters are kept dry and toothbrushes are stored upright so they dry out after each use. We also wash our hands (or use hand sanitizer) often, and like I mentioned above, follow the guidelines for cleaning of neb cups. That's about all I can think of that might help.
 
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gr33nie

New member
I have been wondering the SAME thing!!!

It seems like it would be unlikely for it to get into the lungs just from ingesting it by mouth. It seems like it would be have to air born?!

My son cultured PA when he was diagnosed at 11 months and as soon as we started learning about PA we remembered how we would often take him into the bathroom while running a steamy shower for his 'croupy' cough. Oh boy. Thankfully he has not cultured it since and he is 2 and a half.
 
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gr33nie

New member
I have been wondering the SAME thing!!!

It seems like it would be unlikely for it to get into the lungs just from ingesting it by mouth. It seems like it would be have to air born?!

My son cultured PA when he was diagnosed at 11 months and as soon as we started learning about PA we remembered how we would often take him into the bathroom while running a steamy shower for his 'croupy' cough. Oh boy. Thankfully he has not cultured it since and he is 2 and a half.
 
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gr33nie

New member
I have been wondering the SAME thing!!!

It seems like it would be unlikely for it to get into the lungs just from ingesting it by mouth. It seems like it would be have to air born?!

My son cultured PA when he was diagnosed at 11 months and as soon as we started learning about PA we remembered how we would often take him into the bathroom while running a steamy shower for his 'croupy' cough. Oh boy. Thankfully he has not cultured it since and he is 2 and a half.
 
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gr33nie

New member
I have been wondering the SAME thing!!!

It seems like it would be unlikely for it to get into the lungs just from ingesting it by mouth. It seems like it would be have to air born?!

My son cultured PA when he was diagnosed at 11 months and as soon as we started learning about PA we remembered how we would often take him into the bathroom while running a steamy shower for his 'croupy' cough. Oh boy. Thankfully he has not cultured it since and he is 2 and a half.
 
G

gr33nie

New member
I have been wondering the SAME thing!!!

It seems like it would be unlikely for it to get into the lungs just from ingesting it by mouth. It seems like it would be have to air born?!

My son cultured PA when he was diagnosed at 11 months and as soon as we started learning about PA we remembered how we would often take him into the bathroom while running a steamy shower for his 'croupy' cough. Oh boy. Thankfully he has not cultured it since and he is 2 and a half.
 
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