hiya guys just heard that holby city and casualty are joining programs for a speacial program on transplants there are two patients 1 a male who is a smoker and needs a hear translant . the second is a female with cf who has been waiting for a yr for a heart and lung transplant . well us lucky viewers have to vote on who gets the transplant as they say we play god kinda sick way of putting it anyone gonna watch it or anyone got any thoughts on it . from Jo 21 UK W/CF XXX
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Transplant program in uk
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What if the cf-er doesnt do their medications or physio, then aren't they putting their health in jeopardy? Smokers cant get on the list for lungs and heart anyway so it would have to be an ex-smoker, in which case, the ex-smoker could be doing everything they're told by their doctor to do and the cf-er is not. Should the cf-er get it then?
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I'd have mixed feelings about participating [even if only voting] on that one.
I mean who are we to judge who is more deserving of life. That's just my opinion. I know that the Tx doctors do that in a way, but they only but you through a work up to see if you could handle the stress, not to mention take care of the organ. This gets more into a morality debate than anything else, and I'm very sad to see something like that happen. We have trial by jury over here in the US because our constitution grants us that right, a trial in front of a jury of our peers [or to that extent] but these people shouldn't be on trial, they have commited no crime against another person. I don't think life should be on trial like that. I mean if we do this kind of thing, what's next? Back to the days of the gladiator when ones life is decided by the flick of the hand of the emporer? I believe nowadays we call that brutal, not to mention cruel and unusual punishment.
But like I said that's just my opinion. I'm sure plenty of people would go for the concept.
I don't watch reality t.v. so my opinion is skewed.
I'd have mixed feelings about participating [even if only voting] on that one.
I mean who are we to judge who is more deserving of life. That's just my opinion. I know that the Tx doctors do that in a way, but they only but you through a work up to see if you could handle the stress, not to mention take care of the organ. This gets more into a morality debate than anything else, and I'm very sad to see something like that happen. We have trial by jury over here in the US because our constitution grants us that right, a trial in front of a jury of our peers [or to that extent] but these people shouldn't be on trial, they have commited no crime against another person. I don't think life should be on trial like that. I mean if we do this kind of thing, what's next? Back to the days of the gladiator when ones life is decided by the flick of the hand of the emporer? I believe nowadays we call that brutal, not to mention cruel and unusual punishment.
But like I said that's just my opinion. I'm sure plenty of people would go for the concept.
I don't watch reality t.v. so my opinion is skewed.
Immortal Godezz, the program isn't real. 'Casualty' is a popular programme in Uk and Ireland as is 'Holby city' They are both hospital programmes and all this week the network who airs them has been promoting donation and raising awareness. So tonight Casualty and Holby city are making a joint programme and interactive viewers can vote and judge. Its just another tactic by the network to encourage viewers to discuss organ donation..
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Yeah, I was gonna say it sounds to me the show is making a point about where the about transplants and such, not turning a transplant decision into a reality show.
Do people's votes actually affect any decisions made here? If not, it just seems the most tasteless show ever (far surpassing such tripe as "Who Wants to Marry a Millionaire" and that show where they ship troublesome kids off to a wilderness camp). If they <i>do</i> it seems like one of the most disgusting abuses of medicine I've ever heard about.
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Um, I think what shamrock just said is the show isn't real. =-) That kinda casts it in a different light. Think of it like an ER where the viewers get to vote on the ending. Like those books that were a fad years ago where you get to pick one choice or the other and then flip to a certain page to see where the story will lead.
But, Win Ace, I agree, if it was real, I'd expect to see it on the FOX line-up right alongside who wants to marry a millionaire. =-)
But, Win Ace, I agree, if it was real, I'd expect to see it on the FOX line-up right alongside who wants to marry a millionaire. =-)
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Whether it's real or not...
I mean who cares if it is or not, it's our ability to 'create' a television show like this that is completely shocking. Even if it isn't real and a 'what if' I think it's repulsive. I'm all for raising awareness for organ donation but I'm thinking maybe this is a bit too far, even if it is just a conceptual 'ploy'. That is if they go for a 'reality' type t.v. series. I suppose if it's something like E.R. that's cool, but still that's not my style.
I mean who cares if it is or not, it's our ability to 'create' a television show like this that is completely shocking. Even if it isn't real and a 'what if' I think it's repulsive. I'm all for raising awareness for organ donation but I'm thinking maybe this is a bit too far, even if it is just a conceptual 'ploy'. That is if they go for a 'reality' type t.v. series. I suppose if it's something like E.R. that's cool, but still that's not my style.
What seems tasteless? That viewers vote -- instead of privately rooting for one or another outcome, as they inevitably do anyway? Or that it portrays a situation that might some ppl uneasy? I thought drama was supposed to do that. Of course, the show might be tastelessly done on any number of other levels -- it is TV, after all -- but from what I've seen here, I don't have a problem with the premise.
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I have to agree that it is a little disturbing, but lets all keep this in mind.... WE ARE ALL DISCUSSING IT are't we? Hopefully that is their purpose??? I think something like that in the US might also raise awareness of CF, not that it is the right way to go about it, but nonetheless, it would get people talking. Speaking of awareness, For anyone who was/is interested, I should have a letter generated (within the next week) off of all the suggestions given to me and will try to post it on here. Anyone is welcome to take it, change it, use it as they like and send it off. Right now, I am also awaiting for responses from Dateline, 60minutes and Oprah as to who is the appropriate point of contact if we want to send in suggestions for a show.
Well guys i watched the program and the viewers picked the cf patient to have the transplant so hopefully as well as raising awareness for organ donation its raised cf awareness aswell . the program was howeva very unrealistic . the guy who needed a heart was still alive 5 months after the cf girl had her transplant where as she wouldnt of been. From Jo xxx
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Eh, they probably just didn't want the voters to feel bad =-)
Jo,
I agree the programme was unrealistic, but you have to remember that they probably made it that way so that any average blog Joe would understand it. I mean something that got to me, was that they always referred to cf as cystic fibrosis and not cf, but again, for simpliciaty reasons they just kept it as cystic fibrosis. I don't really think there was anything morally wrong in the show. It encouraged discussions. They did point out that the likelihood/chances of a situation like that one occuring were rare, but it said that medical teams have to make decisions about who gets organs all the time, and now they are giving us the choice.
Overall I thought it was ok. Oh by the way, casualty is the English version of ER.
I agree the programme was unrealistic, but you have to remember that they probably made it that way so that any average blog Joe would understand it. I mean something that got to me, was that they always referred to cf as cystic fibrosis and not cf, but again, for simpliciaty reasons they just kept it as cystic fibrosis. I don't really think there was anything morally wrong in the show. It encouraged discussions. They did point out that the likelihood/chances of a situation like that one occuring were rare, but it said that medical teams have to make decisions about who gets organs all the time, and now they are giving us the choice.
Overall I thought it was ok. Oh by the way, casualty is the English version of ER.