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Skye · May 15, 2008

I hesitate in posting this; but, I also know this forum is open to discussion and can be friendly and sometimes have helped me see things from a different perspective. Some of you know that I have needed to consider changing my career choice. I went to school for about 6 years to become a speech pathologist followed by a year of a clinical fellowship. Changing direction does not come easy for me. I was very excited about the University of Phoenix announcements when they first appeared on the forum. I have done some research though and have found some things out there that concern me about getting an online degree. It is a LOT of work and there is some evidence that it may not be recognized as a legitimate learning institution and that some employers might hesitate in recognizing the source of the education as being adequate. That being said, my husband did read yesterday that about 67% of employers consider online degrees as adequate and sometimes better than a traditional education. I don't want to pass up applying for an opportunity; however, I don't want to spend many hours to end up where I started. I know this may be a harsh post, I'm just into asking real questions especially when it involves people on this forum who I care about deeply.

Karen

Skye · May 15, 2008

I hesitate in posting this; but, I also know this forum is open to discussion and can be friendly and sometimes have helped me see things from a different perspective. Some of you know that I have needed to consider changing my career choice. I went to school for about 6 years to become a speech pathologist followed by a year of a clinical fellowship. Changing direction does not come easy for me. I was very excited about the University of Phoenix announcements when they first appeared on the forum. I have done some research though and have found some things out there that concern me about getting an online degree. It is a LOT of work and there is some evidence that it may not be recognized as a legitimate learning institution and that some employers might hesitate in recognizing the source of the education as being adequate. That being said, my husband did read yesterday that about 67% of employers consider online degrees as adequate and sometimes better than a traditional education. I don't want to pass up applying for an opportunity; however, I don't want to spend many hours to end up where I started. I know this may be a harsh post, I'm just into asking real questions especially when it involves people on this forum who I care about deeply.

Karen

Skye · May 15, 2008

I hesitate in posting this; but, I also know this forum is open to discussion and can be friendly and sometimes have helped me see things from a different perspective. Some of you know that I have needed to consider changing my career choice. I went to school for about 6 years to become a speech pathologist followed by a year of a clinical fellowship. Changing direction does not come easy for me. I was very excited about the University of Phoenix announcements when they first appeared on the forum. I have done some research though and have found some things out there that concern me about getting an online degree. It is a LOT of work and there is some evidence that it may not be recognized as a legitimate learning institution and that some employers might hesitate in recognizing the source of the education as being adequate. That being said, my husband did read yesterday that about 67% of employers consider online degrees as adequate and sometimes better than a traditional education. I don't want to pass up applying for an opportunity; however, I don't want to spend many hours to end up where I started. I know this may be a harsh post, I'm just into asking real questions especially when it involves people on this forum who I care about deeply.

Karen

Skye · May 15, 2008

I hesitate in posting this; but, I also know this forum is open to discussion and can be friendly and sometimes have helped me see things from a different perspective. Some of you know that I have needed to consider changing my career choice. I went to school for about 6 years to become a speech pathologist followed by a year of a clinical fellowship. Changing direction does not come easy for me. I was very excited about the University of Phoenix announcements when they first appeared on the forum. I have done some research though and have found some things out there that concern me about getting an online degree. It is a LOT of work and there is some evidence that it may not be recognized as a legitimate learning institution and that some employers might hesitate in recognizing the source of the education as being adequate. That being said, my husband did read yesterday that about 67% of employers consider online degrees as adequate and sometimes better than a traditional education. I don't want to pass up applying for an opportunity; however, I don't want to spend many hours to end up where I started. I know this may be a harsh post, I'm just into asking real questions especially when it involves people on this forum who I care about deeply.

Karen

Skye · May 15, 2008

I hesitate in posting this; but, I also know this forum is open to discussion and can be friendly and sometimes have helped me see things from a different perspective. Some of you know that I have needed to consider changing my career choice. I went to school for about 6 years to become a speech pathologist followed by a year of a clinical fellowship. Changing direction does not come easy for me. I was very excited about the University of Phoenix announcements when they first appeared on the forum. I have done some research though and have found some things out there that concern me about getting an online degree. It is a LOT of work and there is some evidence that it may not be recognized as a legitimate learning institution and that some employers might hesitate in recognizing the source of the education as being adequate. That being said, my husband did read yesterday that about 67% of employers consider online degrees as adequate and sometimes better than a traditional education. I don't want to pass up applying for an opportunity; however, I don't want to spend many hours to end up where I started. I know this may be a harsh post, I'm just into asking real questions especially when it involves people on this forum who I care about deeply.
 
 Karen

just1more · May 15, 2008

Ok, disclaimer first: if you don't like what I post, please disagree but keep it civil please. Also, if you went to Univ of Phoenix, my comments are not directed at you or your education.

That said, I did earn a degree online through a major university, and no I won't post where, PM me if anyone is interested. However, I'm in a career position where I read/evaluate resumes on a regular basis and valid or not, I do make judgement calls, I spend on average <2 min on a resume before I decide to either study or toss.

So, are online degrees valid? In some instances definately. There are top-notch schools with online programs that are great, including a couple that specifically have connections with military overseas. Unfortunately, there are also some that leave questions, and from my experience, Univ of Pheonix is one of them. I can't speak for the school or their students, but several I know consider them only a step above a degree mill, where you pay and they grant.

BUT you can get this at a 'real' school also, I had someone recently apply for a office type job with a BS from a large state school in "Recreation Science", I'm not sure what she studied, but I was very sure it had nothing to do with what she was applying for so where she went was not relevant.

However, I would not make a decision based solely on someones school choice, there is much more to a candidate than school. If your background is strong and you present yourself well, then the school is less important. But if the only thing you have going for you is your education (no or spotty work exprience, nothing else to show who you are) then it could be a concern.

Ultimately there is no right answer, some managers/companies may still feel that online degrees are worthless, while others realize that sometimes they provide a valuable option.

Karen, I'm not sure if I have given you what you wanted but I hope this gives you a better feel.

just1more · May 15, 2008

Ok, disclaimer first: if you don't like what I post, please disagree but keep it civil please. Also, if you went to Univ of Phoenix, my comments are not directed at you or your education.

That said, I did earn a degree online through a major university, and no I won't post where, PM me if anyone is interested. However, I'm in a career position where I read/evaluate resumes on a regular basis and valid or not, I do make judgement calls, I spend on average <2 min on a resume before I decide to either study or toss.

So, are online degrees valid? In some instances definately. There are top-notch schools with online programs that are great, including a couple that specifically have connections with military overseas. Unfortunately, there are also some that leave questions, and from my experience, Univ of Pheonix is one of them. I can't speak for the school or their students, but several I know consider them only a step above a degree mill, where you pay and they grant.

BUT you can get this at a 'real' school also, I had someone recently apply for a office type job with a BS from a large state school in "Recreation Science", I'm not sure what she studied, but I was very sure it had nothing to do with what she was applying for so where she went was not relevant.

However, I would not make a decision based solely on someones school choice, there is much more to a candidate than school. If your background is strong and you present yourself well, then the school is less important. But if the only thing you have going for you is your education (no or spotty work exprience, nothing else to show who you are) then it could be a concern.

Ultimately there is no right answer, some managers/companies may still feel that online degrees are worthless, while others realize that sometimes they provide a valuable option.

Karen, I'm not sure if I have given you what you wanted but I hope this gives you a better feel.

just1more · May 15, 2008

Ok, disclaimer first: if you don't like what I post, please disagree but keep it civil please. Also, if you went to Univ of Phoenix, my comments are not directed at you or your education.

That said, I did earn a degree online through a major university, and no I won't post where, PM me if anyone is interested. However, I'm in a career position where I read/evaluate resumes on a regular basis and valid or not, I do make judgement calls, I spend on average <2 min on a resume before I decide to either study or toss.

So, are online degrees valid? In some instances definately. There are top-notch schools with online programs that are great, including a couple that specifically have connections with military overseas. Unfortunately, there are also some that leave questions, and from my experience, Univ of Pheonix is one of them. I can't speak for the school or their students, but several I know consider them only a step above a degree mill, where you pay and they grant.

BUT you can get this at a 'real' school also, I had someone recently apply for a office type job with a BS from a large state school in "Recreation Science", I'm not sure what she studied, but I was very sure it had nothing to do with what she was applying for so where she went was not relevant.

However, I would not make a decision based solely on someones school choice, there is much more to a candidate than school. If your background is strong and you present yourself well, then the school is less important. But if the only thing you have going for you is your education (no or spotty work exprience, nothing else to show who you are) then it could be a concern.

Ultimately there is no right answer, some managers/companies may still feel that online degrees are worthless, while others realize that sometimes they provide a valuable option.

Karen, I'm not sure if I have given you what you wanted but I hope this gives you a better feel.

just1more · May 15, 2008

Ok, disclaimer first: if you don't like what I post, please disagree but keep it civil please. Also, if you went to Univ of Phoenix, my comments are not directed at you or your education.

That said, I did earn a degree online through a major university, and no I won't post where, PM me if anyone is interested. However, I'm in a career position where I read/evaluate resumes on a regular basis and valid or not, I do make judgement calls, I spend on average <2 min on a resume before I decide to either study or toss.

So, are online degrees valid? In some instances definately. There are top-notch schools with online programs that are great, including a couple that specifically have connections with military overseas. Unfortunately, there are also some that leave questions, and from my experience, Univ of Pheonix is one of them. I can't speak for the school or their students, but several I know consider them only a step above a degree mill, where you pay and they grant.

BUT you can get this at a 'real' school also, I had someone recently apply for a office type job with a BS from a large state school in "Recreation Science", I'm not sure what she studied, but I was very sure it had nothing to do with what she was applying for so where she went was not relevant.

However, I would not make a decision based solely on someones school choice, there is much more to a candidate than school. If your background is strong and you present yourself well, then the school is less important. But if the only thing you have going for you is your education (no or spotty work exprience, nothing else to show who you are) then it could be a concern.

Ultimately there is no right answer, some managers/companies may still feel that online degrees are worthless, while others realize that sometimes they provide a valuable option.

Karen, I'm not sure if I have given you what you wanted but I hope this gives you a better feel.

just1more · May 15, 2008

Ok, disclaimer first: if you don't like what I post, please disagree but keep it civil please. Also, if you went to Univ of Phoenix, my comments are not directed at you or your education.
 
 That said, I did earn a degree online through a major university, and no I won't post where, PM me if anyone is interested. However, I'm in a career position where I read/evaluate resumes on a regular basis and valid or not, I do make judgement calls, I spend on average <2 min on a resume before I decide to either study or toss.
 
 So, are online degrees valid? In some instances definately. There are top-notch schools with online programs that are great, including a couple that specifically have connections with military overseas. Unfortunately, there are also some that leave questions, and from my experience, Univ of Pheonix is one of them. I can't speak for the school or their students, but several I know consider them only a step above a degree mill, where you pay and they grant.
 
 BUT you can get this at a 'real' school also, I had someone recently apply for a office type job with a BS from a large state school in "Recreation Science", I'm not sure what she studied, but I was very sure it had nothing to do with what she was applying for so where she went was not relevant.
 
 However, I would not make a decision based solely on someones school choice, there is much more to a candidate than school. If your background is strong and you present yourself well, then the school is less important. But if the only thing you have going for you is your education (no or spotty work exprience, nothing else to show who you are) then it could be a concern.
 
 Ultimately there is no right answer, some managers/companies may still feel that online degrees are worthless, while others realize that sometimes they provide a valuable option.
 
 Karen, I'm not sure if I have given you what you wanted but I hope this gives you a better feel.

Imogene · May 15, 2008

I have been thinking of this thread and would like to "weigh in".

My husband, Peter, got his DPT (Doctor of Physical Therapy) on-line a few years ago.

It was a lot of work...but hence he learned a lot too and made "on-line" friends and now can list the letters DPT after his name.

He has his own business. This was a great opportunity for him.

I don't know how the UofP is looked at on resumes. I know all schools come with a judgement. I went to Fordham in NYC and I'm proud of it! It's not Harvard or Princeton, however, and I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have qualified for ivy league.

I do think that some of the courses offered by the UofP online would allow for enough knowledge to start a home based business...web design, computer skills and others.

I know that nurses are probably the single biggest need on our planet. I wish Jenn all the best in continuing her nursing studies. Maybe she'll write or teach with an advanced degree.

I also think one of the most important things we can all learn is writing skills. Whatever your major or what you do in life, it can only help if you know how to write. I am definitely registering in a creative writing course soon.

This gift from the Boomer Esiason Foundation<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.cfscholarships.com ">Scholarship Link</a> (scholarships) is something to look into and be grateful for! I know it will open many doors!

Jeanne

Imogene · May 15, 2008

I have been thinking of this thread and would like to "weigh in".

My husband, Peter, got his DPT (Doctor of Physical Therapy) on-line a few years ago.

It was a lot of work...but hence he learned a lot too and made "on-line" friends and now can list the letters DPT after his name.

He has his own business. This was a great opportunity for him.

I don't know how the UofP is looked at on resumes. I know all schools come with a judgement. I went to Fordham in NYC and I'm proud of it! It's not Harvard or Princeton, however, and I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have qualified for ivy league.

I do think that some of the courses offered by the UofP online would allow for enough knowledge to start a home based business...web design, computer skills and others.

I know that nurses are probably the single biggest need on our planet. I wish Jenn all the best in continuing her nursing studies. Maybe she'll write or teach with an advanced degree.

I also think one of the most important things we can all learn is writing skills. Whatever your major or what you do in life, it can only help if you know how to write. I am definitely registering in a creative writing course soon.

This gift from the Boomer Esiason Foundation<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.cfscholarships.com ">Scholarship Link</a> (scholarships) is something to look into and be grateful for! I know it will open many doors!

Jeanne

Imogene · May 15, 2008

I have been thinking of this thread and would like to "weigh in".

My husband, Peter, got his DPT (Doctor of Physical Therapy) on-line a few years ago.

It was a lot of work...but hence he learned a lot too and made "on-line" friends and now can list the letters DPT after his name.

He has his own business. This was a great opportunity for him.

I don't know how the UofP is looked at on resumes. I know all schools come with a judgement. I went to Fordham in NYC and I'm proud of it! It's not Harvard or Princeton, however, and I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have qualified for ivy league.

I do think that some of the courses offered by the UofP online would allow for enough knowledge to start a home based business...web design, computer skills and others.

I know that nurses are probably the single biggest need on our planet. I wish Jenn all the best in continuing her nursing studies. Maybe she'll write or teach with an advanced degree.

I also think one of the most important things we can all learn is writing skills. Whatever your major or what you do in life, it can only help if you know how to write. I am definitely registering in a creative writing course soon.

This gift from the Boomer Esiason Foundation<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.cfscholarships.com ">Scholarship Link</a> (scholarships) is something to look into and be grateful for! I know it will open many doors!

Jeanne

Imogene · May 15, 2008

I have been thinking of this thread and would like to "weigh in".

My husband, Peter, got his DPT (Doctor of Physical Therapy) on-line a few years ago.

It was a lot of work...but hence he learned a lot too and made "on-line" friends and now can list the letters DPT after his name.

He has his own business. This was a great opportunity for him.

I don't know how the UofP is looked at on resumes. I know all schools come with a judgement. I went to Fordham in NYC and I'm proud of it! It's not Harvard or Princeton, however, and I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have qualified for ivy league.

I do think that some of the courses offered by the UofP online would allow for enough knowledge to start a home based business...web design, computer skills and others.

I know that nurses are probably the single biggest need on our planet. I wish Jenn all the best in continuing her nursing studies. Maybe she'll write or teach with an advanced degree.

I also think one of the most important things we can all learn is writing skills. Whatever your major or what you do in life, it can only help if you know how to write. I am definitely registering in a creative writing course soon.

This gift from the Boomer Esiason Foundation<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.cfscholarships.com ">Scholarship Link</a> (scholarships) is something to look into and be grateful for! I know it will open many doors!

Jeanne

Imogene · May 15, 2008

I have been thinking of this thread and would like to "weigh in".
 
 My husband, Peter, got his DPT (Doctor of Physical Therapy) on-line a few years ago.
 
 It was a lot of work...but hence he learned a lot too and made "on-line" friends and now can list the letters DPT after his name.
 
 He has his own business. This was a great opportunity for him.
 
 I don't know how the UofP is looked at on resumes. I know all schools come with a judgement. I went to Fordham in NYC and I'm proud of it! It's not Harvard or Princeton, however, and I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have qualified for ivy league.
 
 I do think that some of the courses offered by the UofP online would allow for enough knowledge to start a home based business...web design, computer skills and others.
 
 I know that nurses are probably the single biggest need on our planet. I wish Jenn all the best in continuing her nursing studies. Maybe she'll write or teach with an advanced degree.
 
 I also think one of the most important things we can all learn is writing skills. Whatever your major or what you do in life, it can only help if you know how to write. I am definitely registering in a creative writing course soon.
 
 This gift from the Boomer Esiason Foundation<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.cfscholarships.com ">Scholarship Link</a> (scholarships) is something to look into and be grateful for! I know it will open many doors!
 
 Jeanne

chrissyd · May 15, 2008

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://distancelearn.about.com/od/distancelearning101/a/5Myths.htm">Top 5 Distance Learning Myths</a>

I agree with Jeanne, this is a wonderful opportunity from the BEF! I did a little research after reading this post so that I could offer some useful information...

But I couldn't find much. Maybe I didn't look in the right area! But I can add that my current employer (a national bank) actually has information on U of P for employees who would like to know more, so I assume that it wouldn't make a difference to them.

The online programs to be concerned with would be the "degree mill" type; which UofP is not. There are quite a few article about how to spot one if you search on google.

Just my opinion...

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chrissyd · May 15, 2008

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://distancelearn.about.com/od/distancelearning101/a/5Myths.htm">Top 5 Distance Learning Myths</a>

I agree with Jeanne, this is a wonderful opportunity from the BEF! I did a little research after reading this post so that I could offer some useful information...

But I couldn't find much. Maybe I didn't look in the right area! But I can add that my current employer (a national bank) actually has information on U of P for employees who would like to know more, so I assume that it wouldn't make a difference to them.

The online programs to be concerned with would be the "degree mill" type; which UofP is not. There are quite a few article about how to spot one if you search on google.

Just my opinion...

<img src="i/expressions/rose.gif" border="0">

chrissyd · May 15, 2008

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://distancelearn.about.com/od/distancelearning101/a/5Myths.htm">Top 5 Distance Learning Myths</a>

I agree with Jeanne, this is a wonderful opportunity from the BEF! I did a little research after reading this post so that I could offer some useful information...

But I couldn't find much. Maybe I didn't look in the right area! But I can add that my current employer (a national bank) actually has information on U of P for employees who would like to know more, so I assume that it wouldn't make a difference to them.

The online programs to be concerned with would be the "degree mill" type; which UofP is not. There are quite a few article about how to spot one if you search on google.

Just my opinion...

<img src="i/expressions/rose.gif" border="0">

chrissyd · May 15, 2008

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://distancelearn.about.com/od/distancelearning101/a/5Myths.htm">Top 5 Distance Learning Myths</a>

I agree with Jeanne, this is a wonderful opportunity from the BEF! I did a little research after reading this post so that I could offer some useful information...

But I couldn't find much. Maybe I didn't look in the right area! But I can add that my current employer (a national bank) actually has information on U of P for employees who would like to know more, so I assume that it wouldn't make a difference to them.

The online programs to be concerned with would be the "degree mill" type; which UofP is not. There are quite a few article about how to spot one if you search on google.

Just my opinion...

<img src="i/expressions/rose.gif" border="0">

chrissyd · May 15, 2008

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://distancelearn.about.com/od/distancelearning101/a/5Myths.htm">Top 5 Distance Learning Myths</a>
 
 I agree with Jeanne, this is a wonderful opportunity from the BEF! I did a little research after reading this post so that I could offer some useful information...
 
 But I couldn't find much. Maybe I didn't look in the right area! But I can add that my current employer (a national bank) actually has information on U of P for employees who would like to know more, so I assume that it wouldn't make a difference to them.
 
 The online programs to be concerned with would be the "degree mill" type; which UofP is not. There are quite a few article about how to spot one if you search on google.
 
 
 Just my opinion...
 
 <img src="i/expressions/rose.gif" border="0">

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