What does it mean to be colonized with pseudomonas?

julie

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Can someone help and explain this one to me. Is there a difference between just a pseudomonas infection and being colonized? If so, can someone highlight the differences? It's for the dictionary and I want to make sure I have the most accurate answer. the web searching isn't helping much right now.....

Thanks
 

coltsfan715

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I am not sure about this so do not take it for fact, but this is how I would view the two.

Colonized to me means you culture it in your sputum.

Infection to me would mean that you currently are ill and the psuedomonas seems to be the problem - meaning it is running rampant in your system and needs to be treated to control the growth of more bacteria.

In my mind you could be colonized but not have an infection, but if you have an infection you are colonized.

I say that because I grow both Psuedo and Staph and when I go in the hospital they normally tell me after my cultures - you have an infection and it appears that Staph is the major problem or Psuedo is the major problem whichever they see as the more prevalent bug.

Hope that made sense. Hopefully someone with a little more knowledge will be able to comment though.

Lindsey
 

julie

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Makes sense Lindsey, that's kind of what I was thinking... I'll see what other info is posted too, just to make sure I'm relaying all the facts.

Thanks for your help.
 

anonymous

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Lindsey basically hit the nail on the head. I colonize S. Aureus from my throat, however, I am not "infected" by it because it is part of my normal microbiota and is not infectious to me. However, it could infect others that are susceptible to it. Basically if you colonize something it just means it's growing on a certain area of your body, but if you are infected with it, then you get infectious symptoms and/or will have some kind of immune response to it.
 

Emily65Roses

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To my big fat knowledge.... colonized means you often culture it. Often enough to mean it isn't just showing up, but that it's created it's own little "colony." Hah... get it? <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif" border="0">
 

anonymous

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From <a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.iacfa.org/pub/newsletter/nl01a/nl01ae.htm">http://www.iacfa.org/pub/newsletter/nl01a/nl01ae.htm</a> , "Colonization / Infection

"......the difference between colonization and infection......"

"In order to understand infectious diseases of the lung it is important to clarify the difference between colonization and infection. Most bacteria can colonize the mucous membranes of the larger and smaller bronchi, they are normally held in check by immune mechanisms of the host. In this case bacteria can be cultivated from specimens of the lower respiratory tract, but this does not automatically indicate infection.

Diagnosis of lung infection depends also on additional clinical information such as general parameters for infection (fever, high leukocyte count, high C-reactive protein, high erythrocyte sedimentation rate), decreased ventilation properties (shallow and frequent breathing), reduced physical performance, decreased oxygenation of red blood cells, and augmented ventilation pressure in the ventilated patient. A patient presenting 'positive respiratory specimen' and lung infection parameters must be treated adequately, which usually means prescription of antibiotics.

On the other hand mere 'positive respiratory specimen' with potentially pathogen bacteria does not qualify automatically for antibiotic treatment. Plain colonization can be controlled by various immune mechanisms and is normally transitory and self-limiting. "

You can also infer a lot of information from <a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.ajmc.com/files/articlefiles/AMSub11_99southard677_84.pdf#search='difference%20between%20colonization%20pseudomonas'
">http://www.ajmc.com/files/arti...zation%20pseudomonas'
</a>
-LisaV
 

LisaV

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thanks.
of course, colonization by pseudomonas in a person with CF is not "transitory and self-limiting", but chronic -- hence every other month TOBI is often prescribed to keep the counts down and to avoid infection.
-LisaV
 

julie

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LisaV,

That's perfect! Thanks so much for posting that, and the links. It helps me out greatly with the dictionary/FAQ stuff but also, a genuine curiosity about the difference. I now understand the difference.

Many thanks!!!
 

anonymous

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and this has more than you want to know about how the mucoid strains actually colonize the lungs of someone with CF <a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://mmbr.asm.org/cgi/reprint/60/3/539.pdf#search='pseudomonas%20colonization%20mucoid'">http://mmbr.asm.org/cgi/reprin...colonization%20mucoid'</a> . The article was written in 1996 so it is not up to date on treatments, but I believe they still think the biofilm stuff works the way it is described here.
-LisaV
 

julie

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Great!! Now I'm interested much more than I was before, now that I have an understanding. Thanks so much for helping me out with getting it. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">
 

anonymous

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well I was thinking...and since the last article I linked to was written in 1996 it will have out of date info about the salt balance stuff. The newer stuff suggested that the salt balance worked the opposite of the way they thought previously (hence the treatment with Hypertonic saline now), but the algae/mucoid ideas are still helpful.
And I think the genome stuff is right, but you can see the whole genome stff for pseudomonas at the pseudomonas genome project site

-LisaV
 

anonymous

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Maybe you should expand the distinctions/definitions to include "exacerbation". Our son's CF doc tends to talk about PsA in terms of whether it's sitting around at a low level not doing much besides hiding out or is in some sort of growth phase and causing problems, which she seems to refer to as an exacerbation rather than an infection.
 
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