Why not more study...

Foody

New member
Just a passionate question.

First, I have to say that I understand the importance and role of science in our medical model. We are great at dianostic science, surgical techniques and life-saving methods. We have been on the receiving end of life saving drugs and methods and are grateful they are there. However, why is it we do not develop a more holistic method of care which includes reduction of stress, balance of the energy system, micronutrient managment, physical well-being programs, and care of the emotional self? With these things, a specific drug or treatment may have a much greater/quicker affect? Drugs may be required less or not at all....hmmm...

What I want to know from everyone is why do you think we do not look at the bigger picture of health and well-being like other cultures do? Why does a discovery like Terminalia Chebula or studies about glutathione, BITC, NAC and others get brushed aside and left unfunded and unstudied (understudied)? Why can a drug get pushed through quickly, fully funded, volunteers waiting, but not a natural substance which could have a far greater affect with less negatives?

Why will our insurance cover a $12,000 vest, but not acupunture, massage, Reiki, more indepth nutrition consultations which could very well prevent infections and create more health for our son, costing less down the road?

Why can't our children get trained in yogic breathing and receive beneficial acupucture treatments which keep mucus moving and relieve inflammation? What if our kids didn't need some of the drugs if a different approach was taken first.

Not trying to upset anyone...just really want to have research and more comprehensive options available for prevention and well-being. Wondering what others toss around in their heads as parents.
 

Foody

New member
Just a passionate question.

First, I have to say that I understand the importance and role of science in our medical model. We are great at dianostic science, surgical techniques and life-saving methods. We have been on the receiving end of life saving drugs and methods and are grateful they are there. However, why is it we do not develop a more holistic method of care which includes reduction of stress, balance of the energy system, micronutrient managment, physical well-being programs, and care of the emotional self? With these things, a specific drug or treatment may have a much greater/quicker affect? Drugs may be required less or not at all....hmmm...

What I want to know from everyone is why do you think we do not look at the bigger picture of health and well-being like other cultures do? Why does a discovery like Terminalia Chebula or studies about glutathione, BITC, NAC and others get brushed aside and left unfunded and unstudied (understudied)? Why can a drug get pushed through quickly, fully funded, volunteers waiting, but not a natural substance which could have a far greater affect with less negatives?

Why will our insurance cover a $12,000 vest, but not acupunture, massage, Reiki, more indepth nutrition consultations which could very well prevent infections and create more health for our son, costing less down the road?

Why can't our children get trained in yogic breathing and receive beneficial acupucture treatments which keep mucus moving and relieve inflammation? What if our kids didn't need some of the drugs if a different approach was taken first.

Not trying to upset anyone...just really want to have research and more comprehensive options available for prevention and well-being. Wondering what others toss around in their heads as parents.
 

Foody

New member
Just a passionate question.

First, I have to say that I understand the importance and role of science in our medical model. We are great at dianostic science, surgical techniques and life-saving methods. We have been on the receiving end of life saving drugs and methods and are grateful they are there. However, why is it we do not develop a more holistic method of care which includes reduction of stress, balance of the energy system, micronutrient managment, physical well-being programs, and care of the emotional self? With these things, a specific drug or treatment may have a much greater/quicker affect? Drugs may be required less or not at all....hmmm...

What I want to know from everyone is why do you think we do not look at the bigger picture of health and well-being like other cultures do? Why does a discovery like Terminalia Chebula or studies about glutathione, BITC, NAC and others get brushed aside and left unfunded and unstudied (understudied)? Why can a drug get pushed through quickly, fully funded, volunteers waiting, but not a natural substance which could have a far greater affect with less negatives?

Why will our insurance cover a $12,000 vest, but not acupunture, massage, Reiki, more indepth nutrition consultations which could very well prevent infections and create more health for our son, costing less down the road?

Why can't our children get trained in yogic breathing and receive beneficial acupucture treatments which keep mucus moving and relieve inflammation? What if our kids didn't need some of the drugs if a different approach was taken first.

Not trying to upset anyone...just really want to have research and more comprehensive options available for prevention and well-being. Wondering what others toss around in their heads as parents.
 

Foody

New member
Just a passionate question.

First, I have to say that I understand the importance and role of science in our medical model. We are great at dianostic science, surgical techniques and life-saving methods. We have been on the receiving end of life saving drugs and methods and are grateful they are there. However, why is it we do not develop a more holistic method of care which includes reduction of stress, balance of the energy system, micronutrient managment, physical well-being programs, and care of the emotional self? With these things, a specific drug or treatment may have a much greater/quicker affect? Drugs may be required less or not at all....hmmm...

What I want to know from everyone is why do you think we do not look at the bigger picture of health and well-being like other cultures do? Why does a discovery like Terminalia Chebula or studies about glutathione, BITC, NAC and others get brushed aside and left unfunded and unstudied (understudied)? Why can a drug get pushed through quickly, fully funded, volunteers waiting, but not a natural substance which could have a far greater affect with less negatives?

Why will our insurance cover a $12,000 vest, but not acupunture, massage, Reiki, more indepth nutrition consultations which could very well prevent infections and create more health for our son, costing less down the road?

Why can't our children get trained in yogic breathing and receive beneficial acupucture treatments which keep mucus moving and relieve inflammation? What if our kids didn't need some of the drugs if a different approach was taken first.

Not trying to upset anyone...just really want to have research and more comprehensive options available for prevention and well-being. Wondering what others toss around in their heads as parents.
 

Foody

New member
Just a passionate question.

First, I have to say that I understand the importance and role of science in our medical model. We are great at dianostic science, surgical techniques and life-saving methods. We have been on the receiving end of life saving drugs and methods and are grateful they are there. However, why is it we do not develop a more holistic method of care which includes reduction of stress, balance of the energy system, micronutrient managment, physical well-being programs, and care of the emotional self? With these things, a specific drug or treatment may have a much greater/quicker affect? Drugs may be required less or not at all....hmmm...

What I want to know from everyone is why do you think we do not look at the bigger picture of health and well-being like other cultures do? Why does a discovery like Terminalia Chebula or studies about glutathione, BITC, NAC and others get brushed aside and left unfunded and unstudied (understudied)? Why can a drug get pushed through quickly, fully funded, volunteers waiting, but not a natural substance which could have a far greater affect with less negatives?

Why will our insurance cover a $12,000 vest, but not acupunture, massage, Reiki, more indepth nutrition consultations which could very well prevent infections and create more health for our son, costing less down the road?

Why can't our children get trained in yogic breathing and receive beneficial acupucture treatments which keep mucus moving and relieve inflammation? What if our kids didn't need some of the drugs if a different approach was taken first.

Not trying to upset anyone...just really want to have research and more comprehensive options available for prevention and well-being. Wondering what others toss around in their heads as parents.
 

NoExcuses

New member
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>Foody</b></i>


What I want to know from everyone is why do you think we do not look at the bigger picture of health and well-being like other cultures do? Why does a discovery like Terminalia Chebula or studies about glutathione, BITC, NAC and others get brushed aside and left unfunded and unstudied (understudied)? Why can a drug get pushed through quickly, fully funded, volunteers waiting, but not a natural substance which could have a far greater affect with less negatives?

</end quote></div>


Easy. those studies cost a ton of money and the Return On Investment (ROI) for any company deciding to fund those students simply isn't there. Pharmaceutical & Biotech companies are willing to foot the bill for studies of Rx drugs because the ROI is worth it.

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Why will our insurance cover a $12,000 vest, but not acupunture, massage, Reiki, more indepth nutrition consultations which could very well prevent infections and create more health for our son, costing less down the road?

Why can't our children get trained in yogic breathing and receive beneficial acupucture treatments which keep mucus moving and relieve inflammation? What if our kids didn't need some of the drugs if a different approach was taken first. </end quote></div>

Easy once again. As soon as there are double blind, placebo controlled, well controlled published studies that demonstrate the efficacy of the items you listed, insurance will pay. Until then, insurance companies will remain short-sighted.

Long term is not a concern for insurance companies because most people don't stay with the same insurance company over long periods of time. So if you're not going to be their patient in 10 years, why would they do something today that could prevent expenses 10 years down the line?

I'm not saying I agree with the facts I stated above. I'm just answering your questions with what is.
 

NoExcuses

New member
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>Foody</b></i>


What I want to know from everyone is why do you think we do not look at the bigger picture of health and well-being like other cultures do? Why does a discovery like Terminalia Chebula or studies about glutathione, BITC, NAC and others get brushed aside and left unfunded and unstudied (understudied)? Why can a drug get pushed through quickly, fully funded, volunteers waiting, but not a natural substance which could have a far greater affect with less negatives?

</end quote></div>


Easy. those studies cost a ton of money and the Return On Investment (ROI) for any company deciding to fund those students simply isn't there. Pharmaceutical & Biotech companies are willing to foot the bill for studies of Rx drugs because the ROI is worth it.

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Why will our insurance cover a $12,000 vest, but not acupunture, massage, Reiki, more indepth nutrition consultations which could very well prevent infections and create more health for our son, costing less down the road?

Why can't our children get trained in yogic breathing and receive beneficial acupucture treatments which keep mucus moving and relieve inflammation? What if our kids didn't need some of the drugs if a different approach was taken first. </end quote></div>

Easy once again. As soon as there are double blind, placebo controlled, well controlled published studies that demonstrate the efficacy of the items you listed, insurance will pay. Until then, insurance companies will remain short-sighted.

Long term is not a concern for insurance companies because most people don't stay with the same insurance company over long periods of time. So if you're not going to be their patient in 10 years, why would they do something today that could prevent expenses 10 years down the line?

I'm not saying I agree with the facts I stated above. I'm just answering your questions with what is.
 

NoExcuses

New member
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>Foody</b></i>


What I want to know from everyone is why do you think we do not look at the bigger picture of health and well-being like other cultures do? Why does a discovery like Terminalia Chebula or studies about glutathione, BITC, NAC and others get brushed aside and left unfunded and unstudied (understudied)? Why can a drug get pushed through quickly, fully funded, volunteers waiting, but not a natural substance which could have a far greater affect with less negatives?

</end quote></div>


Easy. those studies cost a ton of money and the Return On Investment (ROI) for any company deciding to fund those students simply isn't there. Pharmaceutical & Biotech companies are willing to foot the bill for studies of Rx drugs because the ROI is worth it.

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Why will our insurance cover a $12,000 vest, but not acupunture, massage, Reiki, more indepth nutrition consultations which could very well prevent infections and create more health for our son, costing less down the road?

Why can't our children get trained in yogic breathing and receive beneficial acupucture treatments which keep mucus moving and relieve inflammation? What if our kids didn't need some of the drugs if a different approach was taken first. </end quote></div>

Easy once again. As soon as there are double blind, placebo controlled, well controlled published studies that demonstrate the efficacy of the items you listed, insurance will pay. Until then, insurance companies will remain short-sighted.

Long term is not a concern for insurance companies because most people don't stay with the same insurance company over long periods of time. So if you're not going to be their patient in 10 years, why would they do something today that could prevent expenses 10 years down the line?

I'm not saying I agree with the facts I stated above. I'm just answering your questions with what is.
 

NoExcuses

New member
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>Foody</b></i>


What I want to know from everyone is why do you think we do not look at the bigger picture of health and well-being like other cultures do? Why does a discovery like Terminalia Chebula or studies about glutathione, BITC, NAC and others get brushed aside and left unfunded and unstudied (understudied)? Why can a drug get pushed through quickly, fully funded, volunteers waiting, but not a natural substance which could have a far greater affect with less negatives?

</end quote>


Easy. those studies cost a ton of money and the Return On Investment (ROI) for any company deciding to fund those students simply isn't there. Pharmaceutical & Biotech companies are willing to foot the bill for studies of Rx drugs because the ROI is worth it.

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Why will our insurance cover a $12,000 vest, but not acupunture, massage, Reiki, more indepth nutrition consultations which could very well prevent infections and create more health for our son, costing less down the road?

Why can't our children get trained in yogic breathing and receive beneficial acupucture treatments which keep mucus moving and relieve inflammation? What if our kids didn't need some of the drugs if a different approach was taken first. </end quote>

Easy once again. As soon as there are double blind, placebo controlled, well controlled published studies that demonstrate the efficacy of the items you listed, insurance will pay. Until then, insurance companies will remain short-sighted.

Long term is not a concern for insurance companies because most people don't stay with the same insurance company over long periods of time. So if you're not going to be their patient in 10 years, why would they do something today that could prevent expenses 10 years down the line?

I'm not saying I agree with the facts I stated above. I'm just answering your questions with what is.
 

NoExcuses

New member
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>Foody</b></i>


What I want to know from everyone is why do you think we do not look at the bigger picture of health and well-being like other cultures do? Why does a discovery like Terminalia Chebula or studies about glutathione, BITC, NAC and others get brushed aside and left unfunded and unstudied (understudied)? Why can a drug get pushed through quickly, fully funded, volunteers waiting, but not a natural substance which could have a far greater affect with less negatives?

</end quote>


Easy. those studies cost a ton of money and the Return On Investment (ROI) for any company deciding to fund those students simply isn't there. Pharmaceutical & Biotech companies are willing to foot the bill for studies of Rx drugs because the ROI is worth it.

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Why will our insurance cover a $12,000 vest, but not acupunture, massage, Reiki, more indepth nutrition consultations which could very well prevent infections and create more health for our son, costing less down the road?

Why can't our children get trained in yogic breathing and receive beneficial acupucture treatments which keep mucus moving and relieve inflammation? What if our kids didn't need some of the drugs if a different approach was taken first. </end quote>

Easy once again. As soon as there are double blind, placebo controlled, well controlled published studies that demonstrate the efficacy of the items you listed, insurance will pay. Until then, insurance companies will remain short-sighted.

Long term is not a concern for insurance companies because most people don't stay with the same insurance company over long periods of time. So if you're not going to be their patient in 10 years, why would they do something today that could prevent expenses 10 years down the line?

I'm not saying I agree with the facts I stated above. I'm just answering your questions with what is.
 

wanderlost

New member
I think Amy nailed it in 'Why Not,' but I think you're absolutely right as to the lack of holistic care. Your kids are lucky that you are in tune with this stuff and will see that they get proper, well -rounded care. I was lucky like that too with my own upbrining, and can't help but think it is part of what has helped get me this far.

And it is foolish, what insurance will and won't cover. I was a competitive swimmer for most of my childhood. I know hands down that this is what kept me healthy. I didn't get a VEST until last year becasue I don't have the time or money right now to join a gym with a pool. My insurance battled it the entire way. Funnily enough, they had to go to approval from the medical director - who happens to be my step-mom (shhh...don't tell!) - who knows if even the vest would have been approved if it weren't for her. Too bad insurance couldn't have said they'd prefer to spend $50 a month on a gym membership for me. Much cheaper, and in my opinion, more effective.

Anyway, one final thing: if you haven't already, introduce yoursefl and your Cfer to kalabhati breath. it is an amazing clearance technique.
 

wanderlost

New member
I think Amy nailed it in 'Why Not,' but I think you're absolutely right as to the lack of holistic care. Your kids are lucky that you are in tune with this stuff and will see that they get proper, well -rounded care. I was lucky like that too with my own upbrining, and can't help but think it is part of what has helped get me this far.

And it is foolish, what insurance will and won't cover. I was a competitive swimmer for most of my childhood. I know hands down that this is what kept me healthy. I didn't get a VEST until last year becasue I don't have the time or money right now to join a gym with a pool. My insurance battled it the entire way. Funnily enough, they had to go to approval from the medical director - who happens to be my step-mom (shhh...don't tell!) - who knows if even the vest would have been approved if it weren't for her. Too bad insurance couldn't have said they'd prefer to spend $50 a month on a gym membership for me. Much cheaper, and in my opinion, more effective.

Anyway, one final thing: if you haven't already, introduce yoursefl and your Cfer to kalabhati breath. it is an amazing clearance technique.
 

wanderlost

New member
I think Amy nailed it in 'Why Not,' but I think you're absolutely right as to the lack of holistic care. Your kids are lucky that you are in tune with this stuff and will see that they get proper, well -rounded care. I was lucky like that too with my own upbrining, and can't help but think it is part of what has helped get me this far.

And it is foolish, what insurance will and won't cover. I was a competitive swimmer for most of my childhood. I know hands down that this is what kept me healthy. I didn't get a VEST until last year becasue I don't have the time or money right now to join a gym with a pool. My insurance battled it the entire way. Funnily enough, they had to go to approval from the medical director - who happens to be my step-mom (shhh...don't tell!) - who knows if even the vest would have been approved if it weren't for her. Too bad insurance couldn't have said they'd prefer to spend $50 a month on a gym membership for me. Much cheaper, and in my opinion, more effective.

Anyway, one final thing: if you haven't already, introduce yoursefl and your Cfer to kalabhati breath. it is an amazing clearance technique.
 

wanderlost

New member
I think Amy nailed it in 'Why Not,' but I think you're absolutely right as to the lack of holistic care. Your kids are lucky that you are in tune with this stuff and will see that they get proper, well -rounded care. I was lucky like that too with my own upbrining, and can't help but think it is part of what has helped get me this far.

And it is foolish, what insurance will and won't cover. I was a competitive swimmer for most of my childhood. I know hands down that this is what kept me healthy. I didn't get a VEST until last year becasue I don't have the time or money right now to join a gym with a pool. My insurance battled it the entire way. Funnily enough, they had to go to approval from the medical director - who happens to be my step-mom (shhh...don't tell!) - who knows if even the vest would have been approved if it weren't for her. Too bad insurance couldn't have said they'd prefer to spend $50 a month on a gym membership for me. Much cheaper, and in my opinion, more effective.

Anyway, one final thing: if you haven't already, introduce yoursefl and your Cfer to kalabhati breath. it is an amazing clearance technique.
 

wanderlost

New member
I think Amy nailed it in 'Why Not,' but I think you're absolutely right as to the lack of holistic care. Your kids are lucky that you are in tune with this stuff and will see that they get proper, well -rounded care. I was lucky like that too with my own upbrining, and can't help but think it is part of what has helped get me this far.

And it is foolish, what insurance will and won't cover. I was a competitive swimmer for most of my childhood. I know hands down that this is what kept me healthy. I didn't get a VEST until last year becasue I don't have the time or money right now to join a gym with a pool. My insurance battled it the entire way. Funnily enough, they had to go to approval from the medical director - who happens to be my step-mom (shhh...don't tell!) - who knows if even the vest would have been approved if it weren't for her. Too bad insurance couldn't have said they'd prefer to spend $50 a month on a gym membership for me. Much cheaper, and in my opinion, more effective.

Anyway, one final thing: if you haven't already, introduce yoursefl and your Cfer to kalabhati breath. it is an amazing clearance technique.
 

ktsmom

New member
Jody your post is very thought provoking. I have admired your knowledge of all of these natural and complimentary techniques since I joined the forum. However, I am overwhelmed with knowing as much as I can about the meds and treatments we've been <i>prescribed</i>, much less learning about alternatives. And for this I have felt somewhat guilty and negligent. You provide many resources through your posts on this forum as well as on your website. Perhaps learning more will be my New Year's resolution. Thank you, and best wishes!
 

ktsmom

New member
Jody your post is very thought provoking. I have admired your knowledge of all of these natural and complimentary techniques since I joined the forum. However, I am overwhelmed with knowing as much as I can about the meds and treatments we've been <i>prescribed</i>, much less learning about alternatives. And for this I have felt somewhat guilty and negligent. You provide many resources through your posts on this forum as well as on your website. Perhaps learning more will be my New Year's resolution. Thank you, and best wishes!
 

ktsmom

New member
Jody your post is very thought provoking. I have admired your knowledge of all of these natural and complimentary techniques since I joined the forum. However, I am overwhelmed with knowing as much as I can about the meds and treatments we've been <i>prescribed</i>, much less learning about alternatives. And for this I have felt somewhat guilty and negligent. You provide many resources through your posts on this forum as well as on your website. Perhaps learning more will be my New Year's resolution. Thank you, and best wishes!
 

ktsmom

New member
Jody your post is very thought provoking. I have admired your knowledge of all of these natural and complimentary techniques since I joined the forum. However, I am overwhelmed with knowing as much as I can about the meds and treatments we've been <i>prescribed</i>, much less learning about alternatives. And for this I have felt somewhat guilty and negligent. You provide many resources through your posts on this forum as well as on your website. Perhaps learning more will be my New Year's resolution. Thank you, and best wishes!
 

ktsmom

New member
Jody your post is very thought provoking. I have admired your knowledge of all of these natural and complimentary techniques since I joined the forum. However, I am overwhelmed with knowing as much as I can about the meds and treatments we've been <i>prescribed</i>, much less learning about alternatives. And for this I have felt somewhat guilty and negligent. You provide many resources through your posts on this forum as well as on your website. Perhaps learning more will be my New Year's resolution. Thank you, and best wishes!
 
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