question for other CF breastfeeding moms

[wanderlost]

I am just copying this from another site I posted it on, but my question is about enzymes and breastfeeding. What did your baby's poop look like?

Here was my original post:

<i>dd is 6 months old. Today my friend was changing her 5 week old and I got a glimpse of his poop. I know there is a vast array of normal bf poops, but my daughter's poop is never seedy - it is always just a thick yellow stain on the diaper - almost like liquid. It just seeps right in to the diaper. Is this normal? She rarely has tummy trouble (some gas, but not much) and though she does strain to poop sometimes, I would think that's more based on its softness than anything else.

I take Creon which is a digestive enzyme when I eat. I have to take this medication as I don't digest and absorb food properly, espcially fats. From what I gather from Hale's website (but if anyone has a recent copy, would you look? - I doubt it's in there, but you never know), there is no problem with bfing on digestive enymes. But I am wondering if it is somehow predigesting my milk maybe? If that makes sense?

Is it normal for baby poop to always seem runny (it's not diarreah, it's just very soft) and not seedy. I also wondered if maybe because we used cloth if that somehow affected how the poop looks in the diaper? I know I can tell a difference in smell with cloth as there are no chemical interactions with the excrement - if that makes sense.

Anyway - opinions, ideas??
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[wanderlost]

I am just copying this from another site I posted it on, but my question is about enzymes and breastfeeding. What did your baby's poop look like?

Here was my original post:

<i>dd is 6 months old. Today my friend was changing her 5 week old and I got a glimpse of his poop. I know there is a vast array of normal bf poops, but my daughter's poop is never seedy - it is always just a thick yellow stain on the diaper - almost like liquid. It just seeps right in to the diaper. Is this normal? She rarely has tummy trouble (some gas, but not much) and though she does strain to poop sometimes, I would think that's more based on its softness than anything else.

I take Creon which is a digestive enzyme when I eat. I have to take this medication as I don't digest and absorb food properly, espcially fats. From what I gather from Hale's website (but if anyone has a recent copy, would you look? - I doubt it's in there, but you never know), there is no problem with bfing on digestive enymes. But I am wondering if it is somehow predigesting my milk maybe? If that makes sense?

Is it normal for baby poop to always seem runny (it's not diarreah, it's just very soft) and not seedy. I also wondered if maybe because we used cloth if that somehow affected how the poop looks in the diaper? I know I can tell a difference in smell with cloth as there are no chemical interactions with the excrement - if that makes sense.

Anyway - opinions, ideas??
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[wanderlost]

I am just copying this from another site I posted it on, but my question is about enzymes and breastfeeding. What did your baby's poop look like?

Here was my original post:

<i>dd is 6 months old. Today my friend was changing her 5 week old and I got a glimpse of his poop. I know there is a vast array of normal bf poops, but my daughter's poop is never seedy - it is always just a thick yellow stain on the diaper - almost like liquid. It just seeps right in to the diaper. Is this normal? She rarely has tummy trouble (some gas, but not much) and though she does strain to poop sometimes, I would think that's more based on its softness than anything else.

I take Creon which is a digestive enzyme when I eat. I have to take this medication as I don't digest and absorb food properly, espcially fats. From what I gather from Hale's website (but if anyone has a recent copy, would you look? - I doubt it's in there, but you never know), there is no problem with bfing on digestive enymes. But I am wondering if it is somehow predigesting my milk maybe? If that makes sense?

Is it normal for baby poop to always seem runny (it's not diarreah, it's just very soft) and not seedy. I also wondered if maybe because we used cloth if that somehow affected how the poop looks in the diaper? I know I can tell a difference in smell with cloth as there are no chemical interactions with the excrement - if that makes sense.

Anyway - opinions, ideas??
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[julie]

Cassie's poop was always very seedy, Tristan and Rylands were pretty runny, but didn't really seep into the diaper like you explained.

I'm not on any enzymes though, so I'm not sure how much my response helps you out but I figured I'd give it a go.

Could you try going off the enzymes for like a week and see what happens, if that makes a difference? Or is that too awful for you? Just an idea.

 

[julie]

Cassie's poop was always very seedy, Tristan and Rylands were pretty runny, but didn't really seep into the diaper like you explained.

I'm not on any enzymes though, so I'm not sure how much my response helps you out but I figured I'd give it a go.

Could you try going off the enzymes for like a week and see what happens, if that makes a difference? Or is that too awful for you? Just an idea.

 

[julie]

Cassie's poop was always very seedy, Tristan and Rylands were pretty runny, but didn't really seep into the diaper like you explained.

I'm not on any enzymes though, so I'm not sure how much my response helps you out but I figured I'd give it a go.

Could you try going off the enzymes for like a week and see what happens, if that makes a difference? Or is that too awful for you? Just an idea.

 

[Scarlett81]

I would think that if you stopped your enzymes your milk wouldn't have as much nutritents in it bc you would't be absorbing it from your food and then the baby wouldn't be getting enough nutrients...just my thought. But you brought up an interesting point-I never thought of this. I wonder if a cfer's breast milk differs from other womens.

 

[Scarlett81]

I would think that if you stopped your enzymes your milk wouldn't have as much nutritents in it bc you would't be absorbing it from your food and then the baby wouldn't be getting enough nutrients...just my thought. But you brought up an interesting point-I never thought of this. I wonder if a cfer's breast milk differs from other womens.

 

[Scarlett81]

I would think that if you stopped your enzymes your milk wouldn't have as much nutritents in it bc you would't be absorbing it from your food and then the baby wouldn't be getting enough nutrients...just my thought. But you brought up an interesting point-I never thought of this. I wonder if a cfer's breast milk differs from other womens.

 

[wanderlost]

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>julie</b></i>

Cassie's poop was always very seedy, Tristan and Rylands were pretty runny, but didn't really seep into the diaper like you explained.



I'm not on any enzymes though, so I'm not sure how much my response helps you out but I figured I'd give it a go.



Could you try going off the enzymes for like a week and see what happens, if that makes a difference? Or is that too awful for you? Just an idea.</end quote></div>


Oh man, no way - it's a nice idea, but I'd never get off the toilet - or maybe I wouldn't get on it cuz I'd be doubled over in pain! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

 

[wanderlost]

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>julie</b></i>

Cassie's poop was always very seedy, Tristan and Rylands were pretty runny, but didn't really seep into the diaper like you explained.



I'm not on any enzymes though, so I'm not sure how much my response helps you out but I figured I'd give it a go.



Could you try going off the enzymes for like a week and see what happens, if that makes a difference? Or is that too awful for you? Just an idea.</end quote></div>


Oh man, no way - it's a nice idea, but I'd never get off the toilet - or maybe I wouldn't get on it cuz I'd be doubled over in pain! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

 

[wanderlost]

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>julie</b></i>

Cassie's poop was always very seedy, Tristan and Rylands were pretty runny, but didn't really seep into the diaper like you explained.



I'm not on any enzymes though, so I'm not sure how much my response helps you out but I figured I'd give it a go.



Could you try going off the enzymes for like a week and see what happens, if that makes a difference? Or is that too awful for you? Just an idea.</end quote></div>


Oh man, no way - it's a nice idea, but I'd never get off the toilet - or maybe I wouldn't get on it cuz I'd be doubled over in pain! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

 

[wanderlost]

Here is what I could find on Dr. Hale's website:

<i>Pancrease is an enteric coated form of pancrelipase. It is inactivated by stomach acids soon after exposure...hence the enteric coating on the tablet.

Secondly it contains enzymes principally lipase, with amylase and protease, obtained from the pancreas of the hog. As such these enzymes are generally large in molecular weight and are not likely to ever enter milk or even the plasma of the mother.

So I doubt that any lipase activity would ever enter the milk compartment, nor be bioavailable to the infant whatsoever. </i>

Nothing on Creon, but same idea here.

I don't think our milk is much different, but I wonder if the fat content is a little lower and so baby absobs all the fat? I know that the seediness is undigested milk curds, so my baby is digesting all the fat it looks like - maybe I don't have a lot of extra fat to go around in there? She is gaining and eliminating well, so I am not all that worried about it, but still.

Yeah Christian, there is no way I can not take my enzymes to experiemtn, but I think you're right that if I could, the nutritional value in the milk would plummet. Anyway - other Cf moms I am still interested in hearing about your baby's poo! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

 

[wanderlost]

Here is what I could find on Dr. Hale's website:

<i>Pancrease is an enteric coated form of pancrelipase. It is inactivated by stomach acids soon after exposure...hence the enteric coating on the tablet.

Secondly it contains enzymes principally lipase, with amylase and protease, obtained from the pancreas of the hog. As such these enzymes are generally large in molecular weight and are not likely to ever enter milk or even the plasma of the mother.

So I doubt that any lipase activity would ever enter the milk compartment, nor be bioavailable to the infant whatsoever. </i>

Nothing on Creon, but same idea here.

I don't think our milk is much different, but I wonder if the fat content is a little lower and so baby absobs all the fat? I know that the seediness is undigested milk curds, so my baby is digesting all the fat it looks like - maybe I don't have a lot of extra fat to go around in there? She is gaining and eliminating well, so I am not all that worried about it, but still.

Yeah Christian, there is no way I can not take my enzymes to experiemtn, but I think you're right that if I could, the nutritional value in the milk would plummet. Anyway - other Cf moms I am still interested in hearing about your baby's poo! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

 

[wanderlost]

Here is what I could find on Dr. Hale's website:

<i>Pancrease is an enteric coated form of pancrelipase. It is inactivated by stomach acids soon after exposure...hence the enteric coating on the tablet.

Secondly it contains enzymes principally lipase, with amylase and protease, obtained from the pancreas of the hog. As such these enzymes are generally large in molecular weight and are not likely to ever enter milk or even the plasma of the mother.

So I doubt that any lipase activity would ever enter the milk compartment, nor be bioavailable to the infant whatsoever. </i>

Nothing on Creon, but same idea here.

I don't think our milk is much different, but I wonder if the fat content is a little lower and so baby absobs all the fat? I know that the seediness is undigested milk curds, so my baby is digesting all the fat it looks like - maybe I don't have a lot of extra fat to go around in there? She is gaining and eliminating well, so I am not all that worried about it, but still.

Yeah Christian, there is no way I can not take my enzymes to experiemtn, but I think you're right that if I could, the nutritional value in the milk would plummet. Anyway - other Cf moms I am still interested in hearing about your baby's poo! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

 

[MamatoAlexa]

INTERESTING!!!
I take Ultraese MT 18 and breastfeed for one year. Most of the time Alexa's poop was runny. Once in awhile there was a seedy poop. I agree that as long as baby is growing and gaining your breastmilk is perfect!
Oh gosh, the thought of not taking enzymes makes my tummy rumble with pain!

 

[MamatoAlexa]

INTERESTING!!!
I take Ultraese MT 18 and breastfeed for one year. Most of the time Alexa's poop was runny. Once in awhile there was a seedy poop. I agree that as long as baby is growing and gaining your breastmilk is perfect!
Oh gosh, the thought of not taking enzymes makes my tummy rumble with pain!

 

[MamatoAlexa]

INTERESTING!!!
I take Ultraese MT 18 and breastfeed for one year. Most of the time Alexa's poop was runny. Once in awhile there was a seedy poop. I agree that as long as baby is growing and gaining your breastmilk is perfect!
Oh gosh, the thought of not taking enzymes makes my tummy rumble with pain!

 

[JazzysMom]

This is a very interesting topic.........

BTW Anne a/k/a MamatoAlexa ~~ I adore that pic of you two on your signature!

 

[JazzysMom]

This is a very interesting topic.........

BTW Anne a/k/a MamatoAlexa ~~ I adore that pic of you two on your signature!