Treatments w/oxygen

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SIcklyhatED

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so maybe I'm a total noob and am behind the times, but I've recently discovered doing aerosol treatments hooked up to an oxygen tank <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">. The idea just popped into my head after a hospital stay in December and I think it's fantastic. My dad's been bringing home oxygen tanks for me (he owns a medical supply company, whoot) and it really helps with my treatments.
1. they go by waaaaaaaay faster. My TOBI usually takes 30-40 minutes on a normal machine but with oxygen (I do 10L a minute) it took only 13 today. Dornase takes about 5 minutes, hypertonic anywhere between 2-5, literally.

Anyways, just an idea. Of course maybe some on here already do this. I've just never heard of it. You will need a prescription for the oxygen though but it's worthy the inquiry, trust me.
 
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SIcklyhatED

New member
so maybe I'm a total noob and am behind the times, but I've recently discovered doing aerosol treatments hooked up to an oxygen tank <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">. The idea just popped into my head after a hospital stay in December and I think it's fantastic. My dad's been bringing home oxygen tanks for me (he owns a medical supply company, whoot) and it really helps with my treatments.
1. they go by waaaaaaaay faster. My TOBI usually takes 30-40 minutes on a normal machine but with oxygen (I do 10L a minute) it took only 13 today. Dornase takes about 5 minutes, hypertonic anywhere between 2-5, literally.

Anyways, just an idea. Of course maybe some on here already do this. I've just never heard of it. You will need a prescription for the oxygen though but it's worthy the inquiry, trust me.
 
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SIcklyhatED

New member
so maybe I'm a total noob and am behind the times, but I've recently discovered doing aerosol treatments hooked up to an oxygen tank <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">. The idea just popped into my head after a hospital stay in December and I think it's fantastic. My dad's been bringing home oxygen tanks for me (he owns a medical supply company, whoot) and it really helps with my treatments.
<br />1. they go by waaaaaaaay faster. My TOBI usually takes 30-40 minutes on a normal machine but with oxygen (I do 10L a minute) it took only 13 today. Dornase takes about 5 minutes, hypertonic anywhere between 2-5, literally.
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<br />Anyways, just an idea. Of course maybe some on here already do this. I've just never heard of it. You will need a prescription for the oxygen though but it's worthy the inquiry, trust me.
 
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theLostMiler

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Actually 10L is a bit too high, you should only want to do between 6-8 L. (I dont know how correct I am, that is just what 90% of my RT's have told me, I've noticed a couple do it at 10 L but then the med droplets are too fine and dont stick in the lungs you'll just breathe them back out)

I asked my doc about why hospital visits the treatments are so much faster and how I could achieve it at home, and she said its b/c of the high pressure build up in the pipes and there was no way to achieve that at home.


But I used o2 tanks for a couple weeks when both my old pari nebs broke and I was waiting for a replacement. It is faster, but when the home oxygen company found out, they were not happy with me, though they didnt explain why (I didnt know if it was the amount of o2 tanks I was going through or what). And I did ask if I could use my oxygen concentrator but you can't b/c it does not have a high enough psi.

I was going through tanks like toilet paper though b/c even the big ones only last 3 or so hours at 3L.

Unfortunately b/c insurances suck, they wouldnt pay for someone to get o2 tanks just for treatments. The only reason I had o2 tanks was b/c I actually had proof I needed it for exhurtion and sleeping. So I just dont know how feasibile it is, but I would like to know why my home oxygen company acted concerned when I told them what I was doing. But its annoying b/c to me its a good benefit, oxygen during your treatment and no machine that is getting tired, just a regulator... but sadly the life of a cf'er just cant be that simple, easy and "two birds with one stone" like... <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">

I do suggest getting a nebulizer compressor that has a psi adjustor. Something like invacare mobilaire or there is a pulmoaide version as well. Once you can up the psi (I feel like pari products run at like 5--10 psi it feels like lol). But ever since I got my mobilaire my treatments are speedy again, and I love the machine, so durable compared to the pari products I have used, which are great for people like asthma, but for a cf'er just not quite hardy enough.
 
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theLostMiler

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Actually 10L is a bit too high, you should only want to do between 6-8 L. (I dont know how correct I am, that is just what 90% of my RT's have told me, I've noticed a couple do it at 10 L but then the med droplets are too fine and dont stick in the lungs you'll just breathe them back out)

I asked my doc about why hospital visits the treatments are so much faster and how I could achieve it at home, and she said its b/c of the high pressure build up in the pipes and there was no way to achieve that at home.


But I used o2 tanks for a couple weeks when both my old pari nebs broke and I was waiting for a replacement. It is faster, but when the home oxygen company found out, they were not happy with me, though they didnt explain why (I didnt know if it was the amount of o2 tanks I was going through or what). And I did ask if I could use my oxygen concentrator but you can't b/c it does not have a high enough psi.

I was going through tanks like toilet paper though b/c even the big ones only last 3 or so hours at 3L.

Unfortunately b/c insurances suck, they wouldnt pay for someone to get o2 tanks just for treatments. The only reason I had o2 tanks was b/c I actually had proof I needed it for exhurtion and sleeping. So I just dont know how feasibile it is, but I would like to know why my home oxygen company acted concerned when I told them what I was doing. But its annoying b/c to me its a good benefit, oxygen during your treatment and no machine that is getting tired, just a regulator... but sadly the life of a cf'er just cant be that simple, easy and "two birds with one stone" like... <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">

I do suggest getting a nebulizer compressor that has a psi adjustor. Something like invacare mobilaire or there is a pulmoaide version as well. Once you can up the psi (I feel like pari products run at like 5--10 psi it feels like lol). But ever since I got my mobilaire my treatments are speedy again, and I love the machine, so durable compared to the pari products I have used, which are great for people like asthma, but for a cf'er just not quite hardy enough.
 
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theLostMiler

New member
Actually 10L is a bit too high, you should only want to do between 6-8 L. (I dont know how correct I am, that is just what 90% of my RT's have told me, I've noticed a couple do it at 10 L but then the med droplets are too fine and dont stick in the lungs you'll just breathe them back out)
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<br />I asked my doc about why hospital visits the treatments are so much faster and how I could achieve it at home, and she said its b/c of the high pressure build up in the pipes and there was no way to achieve that at home.
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<br />But I used o2 tanks for a couple weeks when both my old pari nebs broke and I was waiting for a replacement. It is faster, but when the home oxygen company found out, they were not happy with me, though they didnt explain why (I didnt know if it was the amount of o2 tanks I was going through or what). And I did ask if I could use my oxygen concentrator but you can't b/c it does not have a high enough psi.
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<br />I was going through tanks like toilet paper though b/c even the big ones only last 3 or so hours at 3L.
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<br />Unfortunately b/c insurances suck, they wouldnt pay for someone to get o2 tanks just for treatments. The only reason I had o2 tanks was b/c I actually had proof I needed it for exhurtion and sleeping. So I just dont know how feasibile it is, but I would like to know why my home oxygen company acted concerned when I told them what I was doing. But its annoying b/c to me its a good benefit, oxygen during your treatment and no machine that is getting tired, just a regulator... but sadly the life of a cf'er just cant be that simple, easy and "two birds with one stone" like... <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">
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<br />I do suggest getting a nebulizer compressor that has a psi adjustor. Something like invacare mobilaire or there is a pulmoaide version as well. Once you can up the psi (I feel like pari products run at like 5--10 psi it feels like lol). But ever since I got my mobilaire my treatments are speedy again, and I love the machine, so durable compared to the pari products I have used, which are great for people like asthma, but for a cf'er just not quite hardy enough.
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SIcklyhatED

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Hmm... Interesting about 10L being too high. My dad suggested that, as he's an RT. Oh dad... Lol. I've noticed that when I do a longer treatment my room gets kinda foggy; my mom was saying that most of my meds must be floating around my room. Guess I'll have to experiment with this a bit more.
It's unfortunate that it's been difficult for you to get the authorization to use tanks <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif" border="0">. I remember asking my father why you need a prescription for air, literally, and even he wasn't entirely sure. Im always looking for more efficient ways to do treatments so if anyone has a really awesome neb machine that they know of let me know, for when the day comes my o2 supply gets cut off.
 
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SIcklyhatED

New member
Hmm... Interesting about 10L being too high. My dad suggested that, as he's an RT. Oh dad... Lol. I've noticed that when I do a longer treatment my room gets kinda foggy; my mom was saying that most of my meds must be floating around my room. Guess I'll have to experiment with this a bit more.
It's unfortunate that it's been difficult for you to get the authorization to use tanks <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif" border="0">. I remember asking my father why you need a prescription for air, literally, and even he wasn't entirely sure. Im always looking for more efficient ways to do treatments so if anyone has a really awesome neb machine that they know of let me know, for when the day comes my o2 supply gets cut off.
 
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SIcklyhatED

New member
Hmm... Interesting about 10L being too high. My dad suggested that, as he's an RT. Oh dad... Lol. I've noticed that when I do a longer treatment my room gets kinda foggy; my mom was saying that most of my meds must be floating around my room. Guess I'll have to experiment with this a bit more.
<br />It's unfortunate that it's been difficult for you to get the authorization to use tanks <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif" border="0">. I remember asking my father why you need a prescription for air, literally, and even he wasn't entirely sure. Im always looking for more efficient ways to do treatments so if anyone has a really awesome neb machine that they know of let me know, for when the day comes my o2 supply gets cut off.
 
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