1898+1G>A Mutation

1989+1G>A Mutation

Hi, does anyone else have the single copy of 1898+ 1G>A as well as the copy of the delta F508
My daughter Chelsie seems to be really well since being since diagnosed 5 years ago not sure if this has anything to do with the mutations so i was just wondering if anyone else with these mutations are very well, or had a bad time. Thanks

Mom to Chelsie 5 w/cf
I have attached some photo's from our wedding this year.x
 

anonymous

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Have you googled it or checked out sickkids.org yet? There might be some information on other cases with the same mutation combos. My daughter has DF508 (which is found on exon 10) + c.2751G>A (which is found on exon 14) and the way the geneticist explained the 2nd one to us was that since it is further down the CFTR protein than the DF508 is, there is a good chance for more CFTR protein function than if she had 2 DF508's or DF508 and another mutation that is on an earlier exon...BUT I personally don't understand much about genetics and although it gives us a little "extra hope", we aren't counting on anything at this point. I think it is really common for CF symptoms to take a while to set in and that many children don't show a lot of symptoms until they are older - but I am no expert on that either, lol! Anyway, hope this helps you out a little!!

Hugs,
Kelli (mom of Sydney 2.5wcf)
 

EmilysMom

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Emily has DeltaF508 and 1898+1G>A
She was diagnosed at two days of age with a blockage that required surgery. She is almost 22 (January 13th). She did really well most of her teen years and really just started having "issues" over the last couple of years with hospitalizations, IV antibiotics and other CF stuff. I am sure when she sees this thread she will respond.
 

Allie

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Do you know what class it is? It was explained to me that they go from one to five, one being the worst and five being the least severe.

Ry had W1282x, which is a class one, and DeltaF508, which is a type two. 1898+1G>A is a type one also. Not that this should make you lose hope or anything, just telling you. In type one mutations, the Rna or something is unstable so there are next to no CFTR protien channels, which causes the symptoms. In type 2, the protien processing is defective.

I hope this made any sort of sense, the link to the thing about how it manifests in classes is here : <a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.emedicine.com/radio/topic204.htm
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any other questions, I'll try to answer
 

Emily65Roses

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Yeah yeah my mom always knows when I'll answer a particular thread. Hahaha. Course, this one is calling my name, as your daughter has my exact mutations. The thing with mutations is that it is no way a specific science, yet. They don't know which genes cause which symptoms, or which severities of the disease. They're studying it, but haven't come up with anything really concrete yet. Yes, I have DeltaF508 and 1898+1G>A, but I don't think that's the reason my health is the way it is. I was never on IVs until I was 16. I got them then because I contracted MRSA (working at a retirement home.. the old people made me sick!! haha). After that, I have cultured pseudomonas regularly. If I was to pinpoint where the crappy health came from, I'd say it came from my bacteria, not my particular genes. Mind you, I'm not even in that bad condition yet. I've still got about 70% of my lung function, and I'm doing reasonably well. Just saying, whatever I have that isn't doing so well, I believe is primarily from my bacteria, not from my specific genes.

A lot of parents want to know which genes cause what so they know what's coming. But I'm not going to lie to you and tell you that's possible. It's not, every CF case is SO different, there's really no way to tell other than to wait and see. I know how annoying that is, trust me. But it's the only real way to find out how your daughter will do. If you're looking for reassurance that the genes aren't too bad (though certainly every case is very different and I want to make sure you know that), I can tell you that I haven't had excess trouble with them. I'm almost 22 and still well enough to go to school. Still alive and kicking, as it were.

If you have any other questions, feel free to ask and I'll be sure to check back here.
 
Hi thanks Emily and your mom, you always hope your loved ones and yourself have a mild form of it but as you said everyone is different.
We were told at one of the clinics that because my mutation 1898+G>A was a abnormal as the doctor called it he thought thats why Chelsie had been so well, she is on Colomycin and has been since she was 3, she has been in hospital 3 times for IV's first when she was diagnosed (8months old) my 21st birthday 2nd was for my 23rd brithday and the third was about a year later but touch wood hasnt been in since, and is on Erythromycin for 3 months because she keeps isolating Staphylocuccus (sp)?.
But is really well at the moment, the doctor at clinic keeps saying he loves it when he see's Chelsie because it's so quick, and to keep doing what we are doing.

Mom to Chelsie 5 w/cf
 
<blockquote>Quote<br><hr><i>Originally posted by: <b>Allie</b></i><br>Do you know what class it is? It was explained to me that they go from one to five, one being the worst and five being the least severe.



Ry had W1282x, which is a class one, and DeltaF508, which is a type two. 1898+1G>A is a type one also. Not that this should make you lose hope or anything, just telling you. In type one mutations, the Rna or something is unstable so there are next to no CFTR protien channels, which causes the symptoms. In type 2, the protien processing is defective.



I hope this made any sort of sense, the link to the thing about how it manifests in classes is here : <a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.emedicine.com/radio/topic204.htm
">http://www.emedicine.com/radio/topic204.htm
</a>


any other questions, I'll try to answer<hr></blockquote>


Hi Allie,
I'm not sure what class it is, i didn't even realise there was classes ha ha,
It took the Genetics unit 10 months to find out what mutation i had thats a long time i thought.x
 

Emily65Roses

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Don't feel too bad, I only found out there were classes a few weeks ago. But Allie's right. DeltaF508 is a class two, and the 1898+1G>A is a class one. One being the worst class, five being the mildest. Don't let that dictate anything for you, because meds, treatments, environment, diet, bacteria, IVs, hospitals, doctors, blah blah etc etc are really what says how your child will do. For a class one mutation that's supposed to be so bad, as I said, I'm almost 22 and still doing well. Seems a little off. But either way, Allie was right about which classes they are.
 
They say you learn something new everyday, and i certainly have today, but i'm the kind of person not to let it get me down, i can see how well my daughter is, and as long as she can stay like that i'm happy (and she is). Thanks once again if i have anymore questions i'll ask away.xx

Mom to Chelsie 5 wcf
 

princessjdc

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I know Im probably posting a little late, but I just found out what my cf mutation was, and since they are classified I was wondering if anyone could tell me what the number would be for me? Here is my cf mutation G542X both mutations are the same.

Thanx
 

Allie

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It's class one, according to the CDC. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">
 

princessjdc

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So class one is the worst, but my mutation is rare so I always thought that that was a good thing. Cause I consider my health to be mild.
 
Hi i always thought with Chelsie having a rare mutation that she will have it mild and that's what her Doc thought at the hospital, so i guess it's just a wait and see kind of thing.xx

Mom to Chelsie 5 w/cf
 

anonymous

New member
Rare doesn't always mean mild. I think that's a misconception. Just like in genetics, dominant doesn't mean more frequent. Another misconception. I think treatment, luck, etc, has a lot to do with it. If you look at worldwide mutation prevalence, as according to Cystic Fibrosis: Genotypic and Phenotypic Variations" by J. Zielenski and L.-C. Tsui in Annual Rev. of Genet. (29: 777-807, 1995), all mutations except for DeltaF508 are rare (66%). Ry's was considered fairly common amoung Jewish Cfers, but only 1.2% of the CFers in the world have his mutation.

Anywho, what the classes mean in severity is how much they affect things on a molecular level.

Class I mutations, which affect fewer than 7% of cystic fibrosis patients, are stop mutations that directly interfere with CFTR protein production.

Class II mutations disrupt the trafficking mechanism that takes CFTR from its point of origin on the endoplasmic reticulum to its site of operation on the apical membrane. Approximately 85% of cystic fibrosis patients have at least one copy of the primary class II mutation, delta-F508

Class III mutations, which affect fewer than 3% of patients, cause defective ATP- or phosphorylation-dependent regulation of CFTR. The protein has reached the apical membrane, but it does not become activated and inactivated in the normal fashion

Class IV mutations disrupt conductance through CFTR ion channels, despite normal placement and regulation of the molecule

Finally, class V mutations result in reduced synthesis of functional CFTR.

Prevalence of class IV and V mutations is difficult to assess because the effects tend to be mild and not associated with early lung or gastrointestinal problems.

So you could see how a class one mutation could be more symptomatic than a class 3,4,5. It's not an end all and be all, but it's a molecular level fact. But not anyway of predicting anything, they've proven they don't really know WHY some CFers do well and some not, mutation is just a part of it.
 

princessjdc

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ok, thanks Allie, I think I get all of that but actuallly when i read it, it sounds like a foriegn language to me? Maybe you can explain it to me as if im a dummy or a little child, i dont know lol, thanks tho
 

Allie

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Nutshell attempt:

1: Complete absence of CFTR protein

2: Protein is degraded

3: Protein is unable to activate at normal channels

4: Defective conduction; reduction of flow.

5: Less protein production than normal.
 
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