An ADULT only CF FORUM

anonymous

New member
I would like to say that this post inspired me to create a Yahoo Group for adults with CF. You have to be 18 and have CF to be a part of it. Its going to be a very lightly moderate group as far as content and subjects

Heres the link:

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/CF_adults/">http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/CF_adults/</a>
 

Seana30

New member
Okay.....I am going to be a smarta** right now, and then I am done with this topic.

This post has inspired me to start a new group.

all CFers with just digestive problems will meet on Monday night at 7:00pm

all parents of CFers with just digestive problems will meet Monday at 8:00

grandparents, aunts, uncles, sisters, brothers, etc. of CFers with ONLY digestive problems will meet Monday at 9:00



all CFers with just lung problems will meet on Tuesday night at 7:00pm

all parents of CFers with just lung problems will meet Tuesday at 8:00

grandparents, aunts, uncles, sisters, brothers, etc. of CFers with ONLY lung problems will meet Monday at 9:00


All CFers with both digestive and lung problems will meet at 7:00 on Wednesday BUT ONLY IF YOU HAVE MILD CF.

All CFers with both digestive and lung problems will meet at 8:00 on Wednesday BUT ONLY IF YOU HAVE SEVERE CF.

Parents of Cfers with lung and digestive problems will meet at 9:00 on Wednesday BUT ONLY IF THEY HAVE MILD CF.

Parents of CFers with lung and digestive problems will meet at 10:00 on Wednesday BUT ONLY IF THEY HAVE SEVERE CF.



THERE WILL BE ABSOLUTELY NO TALKING TO DIFFERENT GROUPS. WE DO NOT FEEL THAT EACH DIFFERENT GROUP WILL BE ABLE TO RELATE OR HELP EACH OTHER, SO STICK TO YOUR OWN KIND! IF I FIND OUT YOU HAVE "SNUCK" INTO A DIFFERENT GROUP YOUR MESSAGES WILL BE DELETED IMMEDIATELY! YOU WILL DO NO ONE THERE ANY GOOD BECAUSE YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY ARE GOING THROUGH, AND YOU MIGHT ASK A QUESTION THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN ASKED BEFORE!!!


Seana
 

anonymous

New member
thank you for the group, anon.
takes a weight off my mind 'cause I don't have to worry that my having already posted on this site means that there are no sites out there for my nieces who might well want to avoid any site I have access to.
-LisaV
 

CowTown

New member
LisaV, it's nice to see someone as selfless as you're being about this topic. It's so thoughtful of you to think in those terms for your niece.
 

julie

New member
Cute Seana <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

While I do think that the question ender posted was a valid one for him to ask, he had to be prepared for responses of all kinds with a question like that. Sorry if you don't like my answers or disagree, you asked for opinions.

I am thrilled that someone finally got off their A*s and did something about it instead of sitting here and b*tching about it. Just sad to see that he who suggested it, wasn't the one who created it.

I do think what you posted Seana is kind of how I feel. If we are going to go to segregating the adults with CF from the adults who have loved ones with CF why not go even further and split it up by CF complications and severity. Surely if A has mild CF and B has very severe CF, they can't help eachother. That's essentially what is being said here to those of us who don't have CF. "you don't have it, so you aren't of any use to me... at all".

I really don't get the posts about "if I knew my spouse knew I was posting here, I wouldn't feel open to posting". It's really easy for someone who lives with you (lover, signifigant other, parent...) to find out what you are doing online, even if you join a private members only chat group. So I don't buy that excuse.
 

anonymous

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Wow, I can't believe this has gone on for 7 pages. I thought Ender had a legimate concern/question and just don't understand why it has turned into this. I haven't read all the posts, but I don't see what the big deal is about having a CF only forum. Yes, I would be bummed if it took away people from this forum<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif" border="0">

But really, if they need a place to their own so they can cope better with their CF I hope the new group anon posted provides that for those who need it. Good Luck!! And I'm sure most people would continue to post here as well.

And as a CF parent I just want to thank you all that are on this forum, I have learned so much from all of you!
 

Emily65Roses

New member
Hey now. I still don't like the idea of a segregated or elite group for just CFers. And *shock* I know, I have CF myself.

BUT, I would like everyone to keep one thing in mind. For those that remember the wellspouse fiasco, that whole site is ONLY for wellspouses. CFers really don't have a site for ONLY CFers.

I personally think the segregation thing is stupid. I thought so when wellspouse popped up. BUT, if people want it, I think it's not a bad idea simply because every other group has it. Why not us sickies ourselves? If we're talking fairness, CFers should have a CFer only place to go as well.
 

Emily65Roses

New member
It was a fiasco about half a year ago that I got myself into. It's a site where only "well spouses" of sick ones go to talk about anything and everything. Rules are you MUST be a wellspouse to even be part of the site, let alone type anything. Basically in short, a lot of the talking was about "oh my spouse is sick and can't sexually please me, so I'm going to go out and cheat, and good for me." Not everyone was that way, but there was a surprising amount of it and I thought it was gross, so I said so and I got attacked and then... thankfully, kicked off. I haven't been back since.

My point just is, there are places for others in the general situation, if wellspouses have a place to go that's all their own, and some of us want a place to call our own, we should have it.

As a side note, our very own LisaV migrated over here from wellspouse.
 

Lilith

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Wellspouses is a forum dedicated ONLY to spouses of people with terminal illnesses. A lot of nasty things are said there. Allie tried posting there once, and they attacked her, telling her that she should be happy that she was single now. Disgusting place. I don't recommend it to anyone.
 

anonymous

New member
I'm the guy that uses "partner" a lot in his posts, and didn't know I had said anything wrong. Like I said, I have no objection to private topics between members that already know each other. Creating a segregating condition between strangers, on a site that is already open, is something I feel strongly against. It's like saying "things aren't working out how they are with you non-CFers, so we have to make a change in order to make things better for ourselves", that's just the plain truth, otherwise it wouldn't be proposed. If I can cast away my fear of offending people for a minute, I feel like the reasons for the forum, atleast given so far, were not honest at all. I asked several times for what criticism, specifically, that people want to escape, and why. I didn't get any answers. I asked what kind of posts would be on that forum and why they can't be here. I didn't get any answers. People mentioned younger teens, yet it was proposed to be for adults, or atleas primarily for adults. This contradicted themself. The yahoo group is for adults. Deep down I believe it IS that common human mentality of segregation based upon traits alone. What else would it be?

I don't see why we are so different that long time non-CFers of the site are less worthy of being exposed to private topics than a brand new CFer that just got diagnosed with it at 40 and is very mildly affected. My partner holds the same opinion as I, and she's a CFer, would her words hold more weight if I got her to post her opinion on here? The sad fact is, I bet they would. And why is that? Would it hold more weight if a private forum was made, and she posted inside it how she felt about it? Am I somehow irrational or mean to have posted what I did? It may be news to some, but some people with CF aren't part of a collective mindset, and will critisize other CFers, especially the ones that really want to segregate themselves from caring, concerned, and compassionate non-CFers. When they critisize these people, they don't think "CFer", or "non-CFer", they think "person with this idea/believe/value/behavior", that sort of thing, how it should be.

The minute I tell myself "no, you can't critisize that person's ideas, simply because they're terminally ill" is the moment I'd have lost everything that makes me who I am. I feel like every reply I make is going to offend someone and make people dislike me, but even at that risk, I don't wish to lose some of the things that help me cope. I guess it is selfish of me, I'll admit it. Even though my posts may seem cold and calculating at times, I am very sensitive about CF, I cry about it a lot while my partner rarely does, she really only does if she has got much lower numbers than usual. She asked me not to tell her the lung transplant survival rates, so she wouldn't have to know. I'm not going to force that on her. So I come here and read the adult and transplants sections to help me understand and cope. I guess the site is primarily for support for those with CF, but I don't know why people can't understand some of us would lose something if our one and only forum source for CF was partially hidden away from us.

Look, I understand the desire for privacy. I can understand why someone might want to keep some things hidden from lurkers like myself. But I don't understand why my partner could lurk and view, while I couldn't, despite the fact I've browsed this site for six months and she never has. Whether you intend for it or not, many CFers feelings and posts make some of us non-CFers feel better, they help us cope. And I don't mean the information mining ones.
 

anonymous

New member
Wellspouse membership is not limited to those whose spouses have a terminal illness. Insstead, Well Spouse is a national, not for profit membership organization which gives support to wives, husbands, and partners of the chronically ill and/or disabled. For more information see <a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.wellspouse.org/information.html">http://www.wellspouse.org/information.html</a> .

The group and the forum were marvellous places for support to me when my husband was alive. There is a wide range of issues that folks are dealing with and life decisions that they make. I didn't like everyone. I didn't agree with everyone. I respected them and they respected me. It was a godsend to me.

-LisaV
 

Emily65Roses

New member
Yeah I personally wouldn't recommend it. I hated it, thought it was disgusting.

HOWEVER... LisaV came from there, and she's (from what I can tell) a very good person. She must've found a reason to stay. The thing with us is that of course we're going to hate the place, they talk about ill spouses being a burden and la la la. The opinion from LisaV is going to be more well-rounded than ours. Course, Allie hated it there too, and she was a wellspouse. So it's really up to the individual, as is anything else.
 

catboogie

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well, here's what i think! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">

in an ideal world, yes, as dumb as it sounds, i would love to have a site for only people with cf. the main reason is because there is such a HUGE GIGANTIC difference in seeing CF as a person having it / being in a relationship with someone who has it and parents of kids with cf. that is the main thing for me. i have felt so many times like parents look at us and glue our faces onto their kids' in the crystal ball of their brain. that just isn't something i want to be responsible for -- representing how their kid may or may not be in the future.

anyway. i have learned to set that aside, because in many cases i feel the perspectives of ALL of us, bring a diversity and richness to this site that would otherwise not be here. at the end of the day, even though i feel like everyone might not perfectly understand each other, i think that in theory we can all be of great help to one another.

laura
 

anonymous

New member
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>Seana30</b></i>

Okay.....I am going to be a smarta** right now, and then I am done with this topic.



This post has inspired me to start a new group.



all CFers with just digestive problems will meet on Monday night at 7:00pm



all parents of CFers with just digestive problems will meet Monday at 8:00



grandparents, aunts, uncles, sisters, brothers, etc. of CFers with ONLY digestive problems will meet Monday at 9:00







all CFers with just lung problems will meet on Tuesday night at 7:00pm



all parents of CFers with just lung problems will meet Tuesday at 8:00



grandparents, aunts, uncles, sisters, brothers, etc. of CFers with ONLY lung problems will meet Monday at 9:00





All CFers with both digestive and lung problems will meet at 7:00 on Wednesday BUT ONLY IF YOU HAVE MILD CF.



All CFers with both digestive and lung problems will meet at 8:00 on Wednesday BUT ONLY IF YOU HAVE SEVERE CF.



Parents of Cfers with lung and digestive problems will meet at 9:00 on Wednesday BUT ONLY IF THEY HAVE MILD CF.



Parents of CFers with lung and digestive problems will meet at 10:00 on Wednesday BUT ONLY IF THEY HAVE SEVERE CF.







THERE WILL BE ABSOLUTELY NO TALKING TO DIFFERENT GROUPS. WE DO NOT FEEL THAT EACH DIFFERENT GROUP WILL BE ABLE TO RELATE OR HELP EACH OTHER, SO STICK TO YOUR OWN KIND! IF I FIND OUT YOU HAVE "SNUCK" INTO A DIFFERENT GROUP YOUR MESSAGES WILL BE DELETED IMMEDIATELY! YOU WILL DO NO ONE THERE ANY GOOD BECAUSE YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY ARE GOING THROUGH, AND YOU MIGHT ASK A QUESTION THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN ASKED BEFORE!!!





Seana</end quote></div>

Are you on crack. Seriously. I am quite amazed at your ignorance.
 

anonymous

New member
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>julie</b></i>

. But again, I'm entitled to my opinion and I'm entitled to share it.</end quote></div>

You're opinion sucks. Please do us all a favor and spare us.
 

Emily65Roses

New member
To the last two anons:

At 12:53, She was kidding. You twit.

A 12:56, Your** If you can't spell correctly, we don't care for your opinion anyway.
 

julie

New member
It's ok em <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> I don't value the opinion of anyone on this site when they behave like this AND post anonymously. I imagine many others don't either. I'm convinced they are one in the same.

Anon, why don't you contribute CONSTRUCTIVELY or HUMOROUSLY. (YES it's a word, look it up in the dictionary.)

Nobody's taken to insults yet on this topic, save for you. Give yourself a pat on the back for that <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">
 
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