Anyone avoid dairy when they have a cold?

anonymous

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Just curious on your thoughts to dairy and mucus production. Do you avoid dairy for your children when have a cold/ or all the time? My daughter eats tons of dairy, infact we encourage it, yogurt, whole milk, cheese. We think it's a great source of calories. My daughter's nutrionist said tht dairy does not increase mucous but just makes the peron feel like there is more mucous because milk is thick and coating. Just curious.

Rebecca(mom to sammy 7 no CF and MAggie 3 with CF)
 

anonymous

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My boys also eat a ton of dairy. I do cut it off when they have major colds, not mild ones. I have just started doing this over the last year or so and I personally find it makes a big difference. I have always been told that that dairy causes more mucous, but was always worried about cutting out dairy because they get so many calories and protein through it. Mind you I have also started giving the boys garlic everyday, cooking it in anything I possibly can as I was told that it is a natural mucous thinner.
Mel
 

thelizardqueen

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According to the CF Foundation, dairy does not make a BIG difference in mucous production. In fact it doesn't even make a noticeable difference unless you have dairy allergies. They in fact recommend drinking it even more when you're sick because of nutrients and calcium.
 

nikkig

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Rebecca
My niece was diagnosed 3 months ago but before that when she was sick my mom would always say don't give her formula for the same reason....but now she's on pediasure and she has had colds since then and we don't take her off of it...i'm not really sure if that is milk anyways. She enjoys yogurt and cheese and noone hs told us not to give it to her, but she was 11 months and 15 pounds when diagnosed since then she doesn't really dirink anything but pediasure once in a while juice but the doctor said it's not that great for her, no protien lots of sugar.

question for anyone...has anyone else child/niece/relative/friend been on pediasure?
Also thanks for the garlic tip...I will definitally use that one....did you notice a difference?
Nicole 23 w/o cf
Alexis 14 months w/cf
 

anonymous

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My daughter has never had pediasure but we have started giving her Boost Plus every day. She only drinks 1/2-1 Boost a day but it has 360 cal in 8 oz. It has 14 grams fat and 14 grams protein pre 8 oz. i have noticed a definate increase in her weight since we started this. The only down side is the sugar in the Boost. Thought this might help you

Rebecca
 

JazzysMom

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If you are concerned about the sugars in these shakes check for diabetic versions. For example: Ensure has Glucerna which tastes pretty good to me since I am not a real sweets person. This has 220 calories in a 8 oz can which is much less then the other Ensure, but I guess its a trade off. I also know Schadishake makes a great tasting one for diabetics. That doesnt affect the calories as much. Dont know if Boost & some of the others carry ones with less sugars.
 

nikkig

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Alexis drinks about 3-4 pediasures a day, since she was diagnosed she has gained 5 pounds....which is really great...I am not really sure what the sugar is in them...but they are definitally working. I do want to check the sugar in it...was the boost ordered by the cf doc. or just your own good judgement?...
Nicole 23w/o cf
alexis14mo w/cf
 

Augustmom0003

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>thelizardqueen</b></i>

According to the CF Foundation, dairy does not make a BIG difference in mucous production. In fact it doesn't even make a noticeable difference unless you have dairy allergies. They in fact recommend drinking it even more when you're sick because of nutrients and calcium.</end quote></div>


I didn't know this...thank you! My son actually craves milk when he's got a cold and, although I've been leery of giving it to him, I do b/c he doesn't eat much else when he's sick. Good to know that it really doesn't make that much of a difference.
 

nikkig

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I also remember my mom saying not to drink milk when you have a fever anyone else ever hear that?
Nicole
 

anonymous

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My daughter's weight was low and she had gotten over being sick(this was a while ago. Our nutritionist suggested haveing my daughter drink one high cal drink a day to increase her wieght. We've tried a few different kinds but the only one she will drink is Boost PLus chocolate flavor, you do not need a prescription, you can get it at Wal-mart, Target, even our regular grocery store(although it costs more there). I had my daughter's CF doc write a script for the Boost Plus to say it was medically necessary so we could use it toward out flexible spending account from my husband's work for tax-purposes. Anyway, last visit at clinic they were very happy with her growth/height/weight. I think her weight is like 50% now. You could ask your doc about it if it's ok for your daughter.
HTH,
Rebecca

Also, we put a tablespoon of cream in her whole milk once a day for calories.
 

nikkig

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SO your daughter drinks whole milk on a regular basis and just 1 Boost a day?...Does she drink juice at all? I'm curios because the doctor said basically to ust give the pediasure
Nicole
 

anonymous

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Yes, I took my son off diary last week for the first time during his cold. I noticed that he coughed a bunch more after a meal. Not sure if it was the milk, but it helped.
Sharon, mom of Sophia, 4 and Jack, 2 both with cf
 

anonymous

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Nicole,

my daughter drinks whole milk, I try not to give her too much juice, 1-2 cups a day. Our nutritionist said too much juice especially apple can cause diahrea, even in a child without CF. I give my daughter prune juice mixed with apple juice once a day, to keep her regular, she had major bowel issues at birth(meconium ileus). We do lots of high cal foods to also keep up with her weight. She's almost 3 1/2 so she can eat pretty much anything...peanut butter, she loves fish,meat, chicken(she would do well on the Atkins diet, kidding) I think you kind of have to figure out what works best for your child and go from there. I have to say our nutrtionist, not our CF doc has been our resource with my daughter's enzymes and anything nutrition related.

Rebecca
 

thefrogprincess

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I eat lots of yogurt if I'm on antibiotics for the active cultures, but other than that I avoid dairy when I'm sick because it makes my mouth feel slimy and I hate that!
 

JRPandTJP

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We avoid dairy as it can be very irritating to the gut and it does produce an inflammatory response in a lot of people, allergy or not. I think many confuse the inflammatory response of dairy with "producing more mucus." More mucus can be the body's response to inflammation. I avoid it during allergy season and it helps a great deal. I also think if you are going to drink it...go organic. Our daughter w/out CF drinks it and has yogurt and we try to alway buy organic (if you read about the treatment of cows and what's in the milk you'd cringe). I think you can get some really great high calorie shakes in kids with no dairy...soy protein or rice protein, blended nut drinks, ect. We have found some really great soy yogurts and sour/cream cheeses that I don't miss the dairy version.

Oh, and I have found that not offering milk much increases their appetites for the meals and snacks I prepare and they ask for more water. A glass of milk after eating seems to work great and our son love his Rice Dream "milk."

Warmly,
Jody
 

JRPandTJP

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The issue with milk is the protein and fat in it are difficult to break down. Cows milk is higer in Omega 6 fatty acids and low in Omega 3 which can contribute to a pro-inflammatory state in the body. The diets and hormones used with cows is also of concern regarding inflammation. Grass fed cows produce better milk with better ratios of Omega 6 to Omega 3 fatty acids...hence organic fed, free roaming cows produce better milk, if you are going to drink it.

Couple articles on the topic:

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.cysticfibrosis.com/articles.cfm?article_id=100033
">http://www.cysticfibrosis.com/...cfm?article_id=100033
</a><a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.womentowomen.com/inflammation/causes.asp
">http://www.womentowomen.com/inflammation/causes.asp
</a>
I also highly recommend the book "The Omega 3 Diet" by Artemis P. Simopoulos (think he's greek?)

Of course, we like our ice cream from time to time! Making homemade is fun, then you can choose the sources too!

Food for thought...
 
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