Anyone who has dealt with depression?

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welshwitch

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ALso, I should add that this was completely covered by my insurance, 'cause this was just meeting with my "CF Team" social worker. I think if I had gone the psychiatrist route that would have been a whole different story.
 
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welshwitch

Guest
ALso, I should add that this was completely covered by my insurance, 'cause this was just meeting with my "CF Team" social worker. I think if I had gone the psychiatrist route that would have been a whole different story.
 
W

welshwitch

Guest
ALso, I should add that this was completely covered by my insurance, 'cause this was just meeting with my "CF Team" social worker. I think if I had gone the psychiatrist route that would have been a whole different story.
 
W

welshwitch

Guest
ALso, I should add that this was completely covered by my insurance, 'cause this was just meeting with my "CF Team" social worker. I think if I had gone the psychiatrist route that would have been a whole different story.
 
W

welshwitch

Guest
ALso, I should add that this was completely covered by my insurance, 'cause this was just meeting with my "CF Team" social worker. I think if I had gone the psychiatrist route that would have been a whole different story.
 

CaliSally

New member
Howdy,
(this will be long)

I'm so very sorry that your hubby's S.W. has not responded. That's very irresponsible in my opinion, and, they should report that to the CF team as this IS a very imperative part of the S.W's job on a CF team.

It's critical that he receives the help when he asks for it - one main reason is that with depression we tend to lock it up or hide it. Most of the time we just don't want to deal with it (whatever that may mean) and so when we are openly asking for help, that is the BEST time to receive treatment. Like a drug addict, the help isn't beneficial until they want it and ask for it.

I'm 41 (and a half) and have been dealing with "clinical" depression since the age of about 17. (Clinical meaning, suicidal).

Throughout the years I've tried counseling with S.W.'s, I thought all of them were useless. Although it wasn't combined with the use of a/d's either. However, looking back now, I understand why I thought they were useless - I felt all they wanted me to do was "talk about it" instead of helping me find the root cause.

Only until about 7 years ago did I find someone that helped - they helped me get real with my emotions, honest with myself. Once I understood these things, I was able to address the issues as they came along instead of bottling it up. These GOOD counselors are hard to find. Mine was actually through my church, he had schooling in counseling, but held no degree - yet he was the one that helped.

At one point, when I was working and on an HMO (and not connected with any CF center at the time), it specifically covered "mental health" and covered something like 10 sessions per year (?) If you look on the back of your HMO card it might have a "mental health" telephone number, mine did. If not, call them and ask. I think most insurance companies understand that mental health is as important as physical health, and therefore can offer services.

As for the a/d's - I agree that help is two fold - therapy and drugs (those without serious depression can skip the drugs). Therapy helped me a lot, however, I still had this chemical imbalance that needed to be addressed. At this point I was with a CF center. I tried several a/d's and they helped some, but none dealt with the suicidal thoughts. I was in for a tune- up and a pyche was sent in - I explained none of the drugs were helping, and he said "but you're on the best one"

After talking with a few people, I came to understand that there are different a/d's for a reason. Everybody's body is different, and everyone's depression isn't necessarily the same. What works for one, may not work for another.
Someone told me that Prozac was the best for the issues I was having, and I had to PUSH them to let me try it. And you know what? It's been the magic pill. I have been free of those thoughts since I've been on it (4 years).

The moral of the story - help him to keep working at it. Don't give up hope. There is treatment out there, you just have to find the right combo (therapists, and a drug, if needed). I had tried many counselors over those 20 years, and many a/d's. Finally, my mind is at ease.

I'm an open book on the subject. I hate to see people suffer with this - I've dealt with too much crap to be ashamed of my experiences, so I gladly share hoping others can bypass wasted time and get better NOW. Bad mental health can prevent us from taking care of ourselves physically.

I wish you both the best on this journey and hope your help comes sooner rather than later.
<img src="i/expressions/heart.gif" border="0">

Edit to say: Yes, my CF team did refer for counsel. In fact, they would rather our pyche meds be managed by that department, and therefore we are required to see them (at least initially) if on a/d's. And, it's paid for by our state funded insurance (California) that covers everything CF related.
If you have any questions, feel free to ask me...either here on the forum or in IM.
 

CaliSally

New member
Howdy,
(this will be long)

I'm so very sorry that your hubby's S.W. has not responded. That's very irresponsible in my opinion, and, they should report that to the CF team as this IS a very imperative part of the S.W's job on a CF team.

It's critical that he receives the help when he asks for it - one main reason is that with depression we tend to lock it up or hide it. Most of the time we just don't want to deal with it (whatever that may mean) and so when we are openly asking for help, that is the BEST time to receive treatment. Like a drug addict, the help isn't beneficial until they want it and ask for it.

I'm 41 (and a half) and have been dealing with "clinical" depression since the age of about 17. (Clinical meaning, suicidal).

Throughout the years I've tried counseling with S.W.'s, I thought all of them were useless. Although it wasn't combined with the use of a/d's either. However, looking back now, I understand why I thought they were useless - I felt all they wanted me to do was "talk about it" instead of helping me find the root cause.

Only until about 7 years ago did I find someone that helped - they helped me get real with my emotions, honest with myself. Once I understood these things, I was able to address the issues as they came along instead of bottling it up. These GOOD counselors are hard to find. Mine was actually through my church, he had schooling in counseling, but held no degree - yet he was the one that helped.

At one point, when I was working and on an HMO (and not connected with any CF center at the time), it specifically covered "mental health" and covered something like 10 sessions per year (?) If you look on the back of your HMO card it might have a "mental health" telephone number, mine did. If not, call them and ask. I think most insurance companies understand that mental health is as important as physical health, and therefore can offer services.

As for the a/d's - I agree that help is two fold - therapy and drugs (those without serious depression can skip the drugs). Therapy helped me a lot, however, I still had this chemical imbalance that needed to be addressed. At this point I was with a CF center. I tried several a/d's and they helped some, but none dealt with the suicidal thoughts. I was in for a tune- up and a pyche was sent in - I explained none of the drugs were helping, and he said "but you're on the best one"

After talking with a few people, I came to understand that there are different a/d's for a reason. Everybody's body is different, and everyone's depression isn't necessarily the same. What works for one, may not work for another.
Someone told me that Prozac was the best for the issues I was having, and I had to PUSH them to let me try it. And you know what? It's been the magic pill. I have been free of those thoughts since I've been on it (4 years).

The moral of the story - help him to keep working at it. Don't give up hope. There is treatment out there, you just have to find the right combo (therapists, and a drug, if needed). I had tried many counselors over those 20 years, and many a/d's. Finally, my mind is at ease.

I'm an open book on the subject. I hate to see people suffer with this - I've dealt with too much crap to be ashamed of my experiences, so I gladly share hoping others can bypass wasted time and get better NOW. Bad mental health can prevent us from taking care of ourselves physically.

I wish you both the best on this journey and hope your help comes sooner rather than later.
<img src="i/expressions/heart.gif" border="0">

Edit to say: Yes, my CF team did refer for counsel. In fact, they would rather our pyche meds be managed by that department, and therefore we are required to see them (at least initially) if on a/d's. And, it's paid for by our state funded insurance (California) that covers everything CF related.
If you have any questions, feel free to ask me...either here on the forum or in IM.
 

CaliSally

New member
Howdy,
(this will be long)

I'm so very sorry that your hubby's S.W. has not responded. That's very irresponsible in my opinion, and, they should report that to the CF team as this IS a very imperative part of the S.W's job on a CF team.

It's critical that he receives the help when he asks for it - one main reason is that with depression we tend to lock it up or hide it. Most of the time we just don't want to deal with it (whatever that may mean) and so when we are openly asking for help, that is the BEST time to receive treatment. Like a drug addict, the help isn't beneficial until they want it and ask for it.

I'm 41 (and a half) and have been dealing with "clinical" depression since the age of about 17. (Clinical meaning, suicidal).

Throughout the years I've tried counseling with S.W.'s, I thought all of them were useless. Although it wasn't combined with the use of a/d's either. However, looking back now, I understand why I thought they were useless - I felt all they wanted me to do was "talk about it" instead of helping me find the root cause.

Only until about 7 years ago did I find someone that helped - they helped me get real with my emotions, honest with myself. Once I understood these things, I was able to address the issues as they came along instead of bottling it up. These GOOD counselors are hard to find. Mine was actually through my church, he had schooling in counseling, but held no degree - yet he was the one that helped.

At one point, when I was working and on an HMO (and not connected with any CF center at the time), it specifically covered "mental health" and covered something like 10 sessions per year (?) If you look on the back of your HMO card it might have a "mental health" telephone number, mine did. If not, call them and ask. I think most insurance companies understand that mental health is as important as physical health, and therefore can offer services.

As for the a/d's - I agree that help is two fold - therapy and drugs (those without serious depression can skip the drugs). Therapy helped me a lot, however, I still had this chemical imbalance that needed to be addressed. At this point I was with a CF center. I tried several a/d's and they helped some, but none dealt with the suicidal thoughts. I was in for a tune- up and a pyche was sent in - I explained none of the drugs were helping, and he said "but you're on the best one"

After talking with a few people, I came to understand that there are different a/d's for a reason. Everybody's body is different, and everyone's depression isn't necessarily the same. What works for one, may not work for another.
Someone told me that Prozac was the best for the issues I was having, and I had to PUSH them to let me try it. And you know what? It's been the magic pill. I have been free of those thoughts since I've been on it (4 years).

The moral of the story - help him to keep working at it. Don't give up hope. There is treatment out there, you just have to find the right combo (therapists, and a drug, if needed). I had tried many counselors over those 20 years, and many a/d's. Finally, my mind is at ease.

I'm an open book on the subject. I hate to see people suffer with this - I've dealt with too much crap to be ashamed of my experiences, so I gladly share hoping others can bypass wasted time and get better NOW. Bad mental health can prevent us from taking care of ourselves physically.

I wish you both the best on this journey and hope your help comes sooner rather than later.
<img src="i/expressions/heart.gif" border="0">

Edit to say: Yes, my CF team did refer for counsel. In fact, they would rather our pyche meds be managed by that department, and therefore we are required to see them (at least initially) if on a/d's. And, it's paid for by our state funded insurance (California) that covers everything CF related.
If you have any questions, feel free to ask me...either here on the forum or in IM.
 

CaliSally

New member
Howdy,
(this will be long)

I'm so very sorry that your hubby's S.W. has not responded. That's very irresponsible in my opinion, and, they should report that to the CF team as this IS a very imperative part of the S.W's job on a CF team.

It's critical that he receives the help when he asks for it - one main reason is that with depression we tend to lock it up or hide it. Most of the time we just don't want to deal with it (whatever that may mean) and so when we are openly asking for help, that is the BEST time to receive treatment. Like a drug addict, the help isn't beneficial until they want it and ask for it.

I'm 41 (and a half) and have been dealing with "clinical" depression since the age of about 17. (Clinical meaning, suicidal).

Throughout the years I've tried counseling with S.W.'s, I thought all of them were useless. Although it wasn't combined with the use of a/d's either. However, looking back now, I understand why I thought they were useless - I felt all they wanted me to do was "talk about it" instead of helping me find the root cause.

Only until about 7 years ago did I find someone that helped - they helped me get real with my emotions, honest with myself. Once I understood these things, I was able to address the issues as they came along instead of bottling it up. These GOOD counselors are hard to find. Mine was actually through my church, he had schooling in counseling, but held no degree - yet he was the one that helped.

At one point, when I was working and on an HMO (and not connected with any CF center at the time), it specifically covered "mental health" and covered something like 10 sessions per year (?) If you look on the back of your HMO card it might have a "mental health" telephone number, mine did. If not, call them and ask. I think most insurance companies understand that mental health is as important as physical health, and therefore can offer services.

As for the a/d's - I agree that help is two fold - therapy and drugs (those without serious depression can skip the drugs). Therapy helped me a lot, however, I still had this chemical imbalance that needed to be addressed. At this point I was with a CF center. I tried several a/d's and they helped some, but none dealt with the suicidal thoughts. I was in for a tune- up and a pyche was sent in - I explained none of the drugs were helping, and he said "but you're on the best one"

After talking with a few people, I came to understand that there are different a/d's for a reason. Everybody's body is different, and everyone's depression isn't necessarily the same. What works for one, may not work for another.
Someone told me that Prozac was the best for the issues I was having, and I had to PUSH them to let me try it. And you know what? It's been the magic pill. I have been free of those thoughts since I've been on it (4 years).

The moral of the story - help him to keep working at it. Don't give up hope. There is treatment out there, you just have to find the right combo (therapists, and a drug, if needed). I had tried many counselors over those 20 years, and many a/d's. Finally, my mind is at ease.

I'm an open book on the subject. I hate to see people suffer with this - I've dealt with too much crap to be ashamed of my experiences, so I gladly share hoping others can bypass wasted time and get better NOW. Bad mental health can prevent us from taking care of ourselves physically.

I wish you both the best on this journey and hope your help comes sooner rather than later.
<img src="i/expressions/heart.gif" border="0">

Edit to say: Yes, my CF team did refer for counsel. In fact, they would rather our pyche meds be managed by that department, and therefore we are required to see them (at least initially) if on a/d's. And, it's paid for by our state funded insurance (California) that covers everything CF related.
If you have any questions, feel free to ask me...either here on the forum or in IM.
 

CaliSally

New member
Howdy,
(this will be long)

I'm so very sorry that your hubby's S.W. has not responded. That's very irresponsible in my opinion, and, they should report that to the CF team as this IS a very imperative part of the S.W's job on a CF team.

It's critical that he receives the help when he asks for it - one main reason is that with depression we tend to lock it up or hide it. Most of the time we just don't want to deal with it (whatever that may mean) and so when we are openly asking for help, that is the BEST time to receive treatment. Like a drug addict, the help isn't beneficial until they want it and ask for it.

I'm 41 (and a half) and have been dealing with "clinical" depression since the age of about 17. (Clinical meaning, suicidal).

Throughout the years I've tried counseling with S.W.'s, I thought all of them were useless. Although it wasn't combined with the use of a/d's either. However, looking back now, I understand why I thought they were useless - I felt all they wanted me to do was "talk about it" instead of helping me find the root cause.

Only until about 7 years ago did I find someone that helped - they helped me get real with my emotions, honest with myself. Once I understood these things, I was able to address the issues as they came along instead of bottling it up. These GOOD counselors are hard to find. Mine was actually through my church, he had schooling in counseling, but held no degree - yet he was the one that helped.

At one point, when I was working and on an HMO (and not connected with any CF center at the time), it specifically covered "mental health" and covered something like 10 sessions per year (?) If you look on the back of your HMO card it might have a "mental health" telephone number, mine did. If not, call them and ask. I think most insurance companies understand that mental health is as important as physical health, and therefore can offer services.

As for the a/d's - I agree that help is two fold - therapy and drugs (those without serious depression can skip the drugs). Therapy helped me a lot, however, I still had this chemical imbalance that needed to be addressed. At this point I was with a CF center. I tried several a/d's and they helped some, but none dealt with the suicidal thoughts. I was in for a tune- up and a pyche was sent in - I explained none of the drugs were helping, and he said "but you're on the best one"

After talking with a few people, I came to understand that there are different a/d's for a reason. Everybody's body is different, and everyone's depression isn't necessarily the same. What works for one, may not work for another.
Someone told me that Prozac was the best for the issues I was having, and I had to PUSH them to let me try it. And you know what? It's been the magic pill. I have been free of those thoughts since I've been on it (4 years).

The moral of the story - help him to keep working at it. Don't give up hope. There is treatment out there, you just have to find the right combo (therapists, and a drug, if needed). I had tried many counselors over those 20 years, and many a/d's. Finally, my mind is at ease.

I'm an open book on the subject. I hate to see people suffer with this - I've dealt with too much crap to be ashamed of my experiences, so I gladly share hoping others can bypass wasted time and get better NOW. Bad mental health can prevent us from taking care of ourselves physically.

I wish you both the best on this journey and hope your help comes sooner rather than later.
<img src="i/expressions/heart.gif" border="0">

Edit to say: Yes, my CF team did refer for counsel. In fact, they would rather our pyche meds be managed by that department, and therefore we are required to see them (at least initially) if on a/d's. And, it's paid for by our state funded insurance (California) that covers everything CF related.
If you have any questions, feel free to ask me...either here on the forum or in IM.
 

maelstrom

New member
Thanks for all the responses.

I think a big part of the problem is that my husband has developed what my therapist calls 'counterdependence' -where he is so worried about being dependent, because of health concerns he's faced, that he has gone against it to the point where he refuses to take help from anyone. Thus, he has gone through most of his life ignoring the fact that he has depression issues, and just 'deals with it.' But now we're married, and so it's not just him dealing with it, but also me. I know that I can't fix things for him, and I know that I have to keep a distance somewhat and let him take care of himself. I try doing this with his CF treatments - I don't bother nagging him about it because I know he won't listen. But, last summer when I say he was really badly depressed, I mean like suicidal - so it is serious and I think he needs help, even if he doesn't want to get it. He has said several times that he doesn't think therapy will help because he doesn't think talking will make any problems go away - so I was interested in your experiences, CaliSally. I think he really needs to find a good therapist because if he has a bad experience I'm pretty sure he'll just say ok therapists are crap, not worth going.

He did ask his doctor who prescribes the antidepressants, and got a name. He called her, and got a rather rude response that she doesn't have room in her schedule for any new patients. Then more recently he sent the additional email, which was just ignored. It is so hard for him to ask for help, so I feel that these poor responses have really affected him - to the point where he doesn't think it is worth bothering to try getting help, because no one is going to help him anyway. And then there are the insurance issues. I mentioned the name my own therapist gave me; this recommended therapist supposedly would be good for helping with his CF issues. He also does couples therapy, so I called to make an appointment for that, thinking it could be a good starting point. But he told me he charges $150/ session. My husband is kind of stringent with the budget so I know he would balk at the cost, especially since our insurance apparently won't cover it.

It's just frustrating that it's so hard to get help when it's really needed. I wish there was a better way to make it easy, because if it's hard, I know my husband is not going to do it. That's why I thought maybe I'd just ask some of you what you've tried.. I guess I will try telling him to contact his doctor again, or check with the insurance company again to see what they will cover. Thanks again to everyone who's responded - I'm sorry that you've had to go through this as well... depression sucks. And I think it has a huge affect on one's health, so it's pretty critical for patients with CF. I am pretty annoyed with my husband's social worker, she is apparently really new, and has been no help at all - she just does a guilt trip on him, which makes him angry. It is hard to feel so helpless with the whole situation.. but I'll keep trying.
 

maelstrom

New member
Thanks for all the responses.

I think a big part of the problem is that my husband has developed what my therapist calls 'counterdependence' -where he is so worried about being dependent, because of health concerns he's faced, that he has gone against it to the point where he refuses to take help from anyone. Thus, he has gone through most of his life ignoring the fact that he has depression issues, and just 'deals with it.' But now we're married, and so it's not just him dealing with it, but also me. I know that I can't fix things for him, and I know that I have to keep a distance somewhat and let him take care of himself. I try doing this with his CF treatments - I don't bother nagging him about it because I know he won't listen. But, last summer when I say he was really badly depressed, I mean like suicidal - so it is serious and I think he needs help, even if he doesn't want to get it. He has said several times that he doesn't think therapy will help because he doesn't think talking will make any problems go away - so I was interested in your experiences, CaliSally. I think he really needs to find a good therapist because if he has a bad experience I'm pretty sure he'll just say ok therapists are crap, not worth going.

He did ask his doctor who prescribes the antidepressants, and got a name. He called her, and got a rather rude response that she doesn't have room in her schedule for any new patients. Then more recently he sent the additional email, which was just ignored. It is so hard for him to ask for help, so I feel that these poor responses have really affected him - to the point where he doesn't think it is worth bothering to try getting help, because no one is going to help him anyway. And then there are the insurance issues. I mentioned the name my own therapist gave me; this recommended therapist supposedly would be good for helping with his CF issues. He also does couples therapy, so I called to make an appointment for that, thinking it could be a good starting point. But he told me he charges $150/ session. My husband is kind of stringent with the budget so I know he would balk at the cost, especially since our insurance apparently won't cover it.

It's just frustrating that it's so hard to get help when it's really needed. I wish there was a better way to make it easy, because if it's hard, I know my husband is not going to do it. That's why I thought maybe I'd just ask some of you what you've tried.. I guess I will try telling him to contact his doctor again, or check with the insurance company again to see what they will cover. Thanks again to everyone who's responded - I'm sorry that you've had to go through this as well... depression sucks. And I think it has a huge affect on one's health, so it's pretty critical for patients with CF. I am pretty annoyed with my husband's social worker, she is apparently really new, and has been no help at all - she just does a guilt trip on him, which makes him angry. It is hard to feel so helpless with the whole situation.. but I'll keep trying.
 

maelstrom

New member
Thanks for all the responses.

I think a big part of the problem is that my husband has developed what my therapist calls 'counterdependence' -where he is so worried about being dependent, because of health concerns he's faced, that he has gone against it to the point where he refuses to take help from anyone. Thus, he has gone through most of his life ignoring the fact that he has depression issues, and just 'deals with it.' But now we're married, and so it's not just him dealing with it, but also me. I know that I can't fix things for him, and I know that I have to keep a distance somewhat and let him take care of himself. I try doing this with his CF treatments - I don't bother nagging him about it because I know he won't listen. But, last summer when I say he was really badly depressed, I mean like suicidal - so it is serious and I think he needs help, even if he doesn't want to get it. He has said several times that he doesn't think therapy will help because he doesn't think talking will make any problems go away - so I was interested in your experiences, CaliSally. I think he really needs to find a good therapist because if he has a bad experience I'm pretty sure he'll just say ok therapists are crap, not worth going.

He did ask his doctor who prescribes the antidepressants, and got a name. He called her, and got a rather rude response that she doesn't have room in her schedule for any new patients. Then more recently he sent the additional email, which was just ignored. It is so hard for him to ask for help, so I feel that these poor responses have really affected him - to the point where he doesn't think it is worth bothering to try getting help, because no one is going to help him anyway. And then there are the insurance issues. I mentioned the name my own therapist gave me; this recommended therapist supposedly would be good for helping with his CF issues. He also does couples therapy, so I called to make an appointment for that, thinking it could be a good starting point. But he told me he charges $150/ session. My husband is kind of stringent with the budget so I know he would balk at the cost, especially since our insurance apparently won't cover it.

It's just frustrating that it's so hard to get help when it's really needed. I wish there was a better way to make it easy, because if it's hard, I know my husband is not going to do it. That's why I thought maybe I'd just ask some of you what you've tried.. I guess I will try telling him to contact his doctor again, or check with the insurance company again to see what they will cover. Thanks again to everyone who's responded - I'm sorry that you've had to go through this as well... depression sucks. And I think it has a huge affect on one's health, so it's pretty critical for patients with CF. I am pretty annoyed with my husband's social worker, she is apparently really new, and has been no help at all - she just does a guilt trip on him, which makes him angry. It is hard to feel so helpless with the whole situation.. but I'll keep trying.
 

maelstrom

New member
Thanks for all the responses.

I think a big part of the problem is that my husband has developed what my therapist calls 'counterdependence' -where he is so worried about being dependent, because of health concerns he's faced, that he has gone against it to the point where he refuses to take help from anyone. Thus, he has gone through most of his life ignoring the fact that he has depression issues, and just 'deals with it.' But now we're married, and so it's not just him dealing with it, but also me. I know that I can't fix things for him, and I know that I have to keep a distance somewhat and let him take care of himself. I try doing this with his CF treatments - I don't bother nagging him about it because I know he won't listen. But, last summer when I say he was really badly depressed, I mean like suicidal - so it is serious and I think he needs help, even if he doesn't want to get it. He has said several times that he doesn't think therapy will help because he doesn't think talking will make any problems go away - so I was interested in your experiences, CaliSally. I think he really needs to find a good therapist because if he has a bad experience I'm pretty sure he'll just say ok therapists are crap, not worth going.

He did ask his doctor who prescribes the antidepressants, and got a name. He called her, and got a rather rude response that she doesn't have room in her schedule for any new patients. Then more recently he sent the additional email, which was just ignored. It is so hard for him to ask for help, so I feel that these poor responses have really affected him - to the point where he doesn't think it is worth bothering to try getting help, because no one is going to help him anyway. And then there are the insurance issues. I mentioned the name my own therapist gave me; this recommended therapist supposedly would be good for helping with his CF issues. He also does couples therapy, so I called to make an appointment for that, thinking it could be a good starting point. But he told me he charges $150/ session. My husband is kind of stringent with the budget so I know he would balk at the cost, especially since our insurance apparently won't cover it.

It's just frustrating that it's so hard to get help when it's really needed. I wish there was a better way to make it easy, because if it's hard, I know my husband is not going to do it. That's why I thought maybe I'd just ask some of you what you've tried.. I guess I will try telling him to contact his doctor again, or check with the insurance company again to see what they will cover. Thanks again to everyone who's responded - I'm sorry that you've had to go through this as well... depression sucks. And I think it has a huge affect on one's health, so it's pretty critical for patients with CF. I am pretty annoyed with my husband's social worker, she is apparently really new, and has been no help at all - she just does a guilt trip on him, which makes him angry. It is hard to feel so helpless with the whole situation.. but I'll keep trying.
 

maelstrom

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Thanks for all the responses.

I think a big part of the problem is that my husband has developed what my therapist calls 'counterdependence' -where he is so worried about being dependent, because of health concerns he's faced, that he has gone against it to the point where he refuses to take help from anyone. Thus, he has gone through most of his life ignoring the fact that he has depression issues, and just 'deals with it.' But now we're married, and so it's not just him dealing with it, but also me. I know that I can't fix things for him, and I know that I have to keep a distance somewhat and let him take care of himself. I try doing this with his CF treatments - I don't bother nagging him about it because I know he won't listen. But, last summer when I say he was really badly depressed, I mean like suicidal - so it is serious and I think he needs help, even if he doesn't want to get it. He has said several times that he doesn't think therapy will help because he doesn't think talking will make any problems go away - so I was interested in your experiences, CaliSally. I think he really needs to find a good therapist because if he has a bad experience I'm pretty sure he'll just say ok therapists are crap, not worth going.

He did ask his doctor who prescribes the antidepressants, and got a name. He called her, and got a rather rude response that she doesn't have room in her schedule for any new patients. Then more recently he sent the additional email, which was just ignored. It is so hard for him to ask for help, so I feel that these poor responses have really affected him - to the point where he doesn't think it is worth bothering to try getting help, because no one is going to help him anyway. And then there are the insurance issues. I mentioned the name my own therapist gave me; this recommended therapist supposedly would be good for helping with his CF issues. He also does couples therapy, so I called to make an appointment for that, thinking it could be a good starting point. But he told me he charges $150/ session. My husband is kind of stringent with the budget so I know he would balk at the cost, especially since our insurance apparently won't cover it.

It's just frustrating that it's so hard to get help when it's really needed. I wish there was a better way to make it easy, because if it's hard, I know my husband is not going to do it. That's why I thought maybe I'd just ask some of you what you've tried.. I guess I will try telling him to contact his doctor again, or check with the insurance company again to see what they will cover. Thanks again to everyone who's responded - I'm sorry that you've had to go through this as well... depression sucks. And I think it has a huge affect on one's health, so it's pretty critical for patients with CF. I am pretty annoyed with my husband's social worker, she is apparently really new, and has been no help at all - she just does a guilt trip on him, which makes him angry. It is hard to feel so helpless with the whole situation.. but I'll keep trying.
 

bittyhorse23

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I'm really sorry your hubby suffers from depression. I do too and not until this past Sept was I put on a/d's. I tried talk therapy and just plain ignoring the problem but it didn't help. I finally begged for a/d's when I sat on the edge of my bed with a bottle of sleeping pills in my hand wishing I had the guts to take them. I had been seeing a psychologist on and off for 2 years at this point. I was in my "on" stage with him and had been for about 3 months. He was shocked I was suicidal and had always thought I was a happy person. Apparently I'm a good actress. Anyway, after that whole episode I made a list of everything that had been bothering me. It was all CF related. Well he told my CF dr that I was depressed because I had broken up with my boyfriend! Then the three sessions I went to after that I would try to talk about my list and he would change the subject. Seemed he was only concerned about my social life. So I stopped going. I have not found another one since, but I do want to. I feel so much better now than I did 7 months ago. This past month my a/d's finally kicked in full swing and I feel almost normal. I have also worked through alot of my issues on my own. Writing is a huge help for me. I still have days that are dark and gloomy but now they aren't so scary. I KNOW I will work through them whereas before I felt hopeless and alone. I am also like Sally and am an open book when it comes to this. If my experiences (though limited) can help someone out I am all for it.

One thing I would suggest is to call your insurance company and ask for a list of mental health providers. Or if they have a website you can check on there. Then call all the ones close to you or that you think you would like. Just ask if they specialize in chronic illnesses. This will take a good amount of time but it would be worth it if you can get your hubby the mental health care that he needs. And also get it covered. My insurance covers mental health up to 20 sessions a year but I have gone well over that and it was never denied. The psych. just needs to call and say that you need more sessions. They will do this automatically, don't worry about it, I just wanted to let you know that tid-bit of info <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">

Also report that social worker to someone!!!!!!!! What a rude and irresponsible woman! We had a SW in my clinic a few years ago. She was the nicest lady in the world but she didn't do a lick of good when it came to her job. They finally let her go because of all the complaints. Now the SW is awesome! I love her and I hope she never ever leaves!! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

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bittyhorse23

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I'm really sorry your hubby suffers from depression. I do too and not until this past Sept was I put on a/d's. I tried talk therapy and just plain ignoring the problem but it didn't help. I finally begged for a/d's when I sat on the edge of my bed with a bottle of sleeping pills in my hand wishing I had the guts to take them. I had been seeing a psychologist on and off for 2 years at this point. I was in my "on" stage with him and had been for about 3 months. He was shocked I was suicidal and had always thought I was a happy person. Apparently I'm a good actress. Anyway, after that whole episode I made a list of everything that had been bothering me. It was all CF related. Well he told my CF dr that I was depressed because I had broken up with my boyfriend! Then the three sessions I went to after that I would try to talk about my list and he would change the subject. Seemed he was only concerned about my social life. So I stopped going. I have not found another one since, but I do want to. I feel so much better now than I did 7 months ago. This past month my a/d's finally kicked in full swing and I feel almost normal. I have also worked through alot of my issues on my own. Writing is a huge help for me. I still have days that are dark and gloomy but now they aren't so scary. I KNOW I will work through them whereas before I felt hopeless and alone. I am also like Sally and am an open book when it comes to this. If my experiences (though limited) can help someone out I am all for it.

One thing I would suggest is to call your insurance company and ask for a list of mental health providers. Or if they have a website you can check on there. Then call all the ones close to you or that you think you would like. Just ask if they specialize in chronic illnesses. This will take a good amount of time but it would be worth it if you can get your hubby the mental health care that he needs. And also get it covered. My insurance covers mental health up to 20 sessions a year but I have gone well over that and it was never denied. The psych. just needs to call and say that you need more sessions. They will do this automatically, don't worry about it, I just wanted to let you know that tid-bit of info <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">

Also report that social worker to someone!!!!!!!! What a rude and irresponsible woman! We had a SW in my clinic a few years ago. She was the nicest lady in the world but she didn't do a lick of good when it came to her job. They finally let her go because of all the complaints. Now the SW is awesome! I love her and I hope she never ever leaves!! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

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bittyhorse23

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I'm really sorry your hubby suffers from depression. I do too and not until this past Sept was I put on a/d's. I tried talk therapy and just plain ignoring the problem but it didn't help. I finally begged for a/d's when I sat on the edge of my bed with a bottle of sleeping pills in my hand wishing I had the guts to take them. I had been seeing a psychologist on and off for 2 years at this point. I was in my "on" stage with him and had been for about 3 months. He was shocked I was suicidal and had always thought I was a happy person. Apparently I'm a good actress. Anyway, after that whole episode I made a list of everything that had been bothering me. It was all CF related. Well he told my CF dr that I was depressed because I had broken up with my boyfriend! Then the three sessions I went to after that I would try to talk about my list and he would change the subject. Seemed he was only concerned about my social life. So I stopped going. I have not found another one since, but I do want to. I feel so much better now than I did 7 months ago. This past month my a/d's finally kicked in full swing and I feel almost normal. I have also worked through alot of my issues on my own. Writing is a huge help for me. I still have days that are dark and gloomy but now they aren't so scary. I KNOW I will work through them whereas before I felt hopeless and alone. I am also like Sally and am an open book when it comes to this. If my experiences (though limited) can help someone out I am all for it.

One thing I would suggest is to call your insurance company and ask for a list of mental health providers. Or if they have a website you can check on there. Then call all the ones close to you or that you think you would like. Just ask if they specialize in chronic illnesses. This will take a good amount of time but it would be worth it if you can get your hubby the mental health care that he needs. And also get it covered. My insurance covers mental health up to 20 sessions a year but I have gone well over that and it was never denied. The psych. just needs to call and say that you need more sessions. They will do this automatically, don't worry about it, I just wanted to let you know that tid-bit of info <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">

Also report that social worker to someone!!!!!!!! What a rude and irresponsible woman! We had a SW in my clinic a few years ago. She was the nicest lady in the world but she didn't do a lick of good when it came to her job. They finally let her go because of all the complaints. Now the SW is awesome! I love her and I hope she never ever leaves!! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

<img src="i/expressions/heart.gif" border="0">
 

bittyhorse23

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I'm really sorry your hubby suffers from depression. I do too and not until this past Sept was I put on a/d's. I tried talk therapy and just plain ignoring the problem but it didn't help. I finally begged for a/d's when I sat on the edge of my bed with a bottle of sleeping pills in my hand wishing I had the guts to take them. I had been seeing a psychologist on and off for 2 years at this point. I was in my "on" stage with him and had been for about 3 months. He was shocked I was suicidal and had always thought I was a happy person. Apparently I'm a good actress. Anyway, after that whole episode I made a list of everything that had been bothering me. It was all CF related. Well he told my CF dr that I was depressed because I had broken up with my boyfriend! Then the three sessions I went to after that I would try to talk about my list and he would change the subject. Seemed he was only concerned about my social life. So I stopped going. I have not found another one since, but I do want to. I feel so much better now than I did 7 months ago. This past month my a/d's finally kicked in full swing and I feel almost normal. I have also worked through alot of my issues on my own. Writing is a huge help for me. I still have days that are dark and gloomy but now they aren't so scary. I KNOW I will work through them whereas before I felt hopeless and alone. I am also like Sally and am an open book when it comes to this. If my experiences (though limited) can help someone out I am all for it.

One thing I would suggest is to call your insurance company and ask for a list of mental health providers. Or if they have a website you can check on there. Then call all the ones close to you or that you think you would like. Just ask if they specialize in chronic illnesses. This will take a good amount of time but it would be worth it if you can get your hubby the mental health care that he needs. And also get it covered. My insurance covers mental health up to 20 sessions a year but I have gone well over that and it was never denied. The psych. just needs to call and say that you need more sessions. They will do this automatically, don't worry about it, I just wanted to let you know that tid-bit of info <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">

Also report that social worker to someone!!!!!!!! What a rude and irresponsible woman! We had a SW in my clinic a few years ago. She was the nicest lady in the world but she didn't do a lick of good when it came to her job. They finally let her go because of all the complaints. Now the SW is awesome! I love her and I hope she never ever leaves!! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

<img src="i/expressions/heart.gif" border="0">
 

bittyhorse23

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I'm really sorry your hubby suffers from depression. I do too and not until this past Sept was I put on a/d's. I tried talk therapy and just plain ignoring the problem but it didn't help. I finally begged for a/d's when I sat on the edge of my bed with a bottle of sleeping pills in my hand wishing I had the guts to take them. I had been seeing a psychologist on and off for 2 years at this point. I was in my "on" stage with him and had been for about 3 months. He was shocked I was suicidal and had always thought I was a happy person. Apparently I'm a good actress. Anyway, after that whole episode I made a list of everything that had been bothering me. It was all CF related. Well he told my CF dr that I was depressed because I had broken up with my boyfriend! Then the three sessions I went to after that I would try to talk about my list and he would change the subject. Seemed he was only concerned about my social life. So I stopped going. I have not found another one since, but I do want to. I feel so much better now than I did 7 months ago. This past month my a/d's finally kicked in full swing and I feel almost normal. I have also worked through alot of my issues on my own. Writing is a huge help for me. I still have days that are dark and gloomy but now they aren't so scary. I KNOW I will work through them whereas before I felt hopeless and alone. I am also like Sally and am an open book when it comes to this. If my experiences (though limited) can help someone out I am all for it.

One thing I would suggest is to call your insurance company and ask for a list of mental health providers. Or if they have a website you can check on there. Then call all the ones close to you or that you think you would like. Just ask if they specialize in chronic illnesses. This will take a good amount of time but it would be worth it if you can get your hubby the mental health care that he needs. And also get it covered. My insurance covers mental health up to 20 sessions a year but I have gone well over that and it was never denied. The psych. just needs to call and say that you need more sessions. They will do this automatically, don't worry about it, I just wanted to let you know that tid-bit of info <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">

Also report that social worker to someone!!!!!!!! What a rude and irresponsible woman! We had a SW in my clinic a few years ago. She was the nicest lady in the world but she didn't do a lick of good when it came to her job. They finally let her go because of all the complaints. Now the SW is awesome! I love her and I hope she never ever leaves!! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

<img src="i/expressions/heart.gif" border="0">
 
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