Atypical Cystic Fibrosis

hmw

New member
Going by statistics released by the CFF alone, DuPont is slightly below national average when it comes to the health of the children they care for, and the statistics at CHOP's center are among the best in the country for pulmonary health. There is more to a center than their statistics, but it's a good starting point to consider if one is looking to try somewhere new, especially since your child has so many pulmonary issues, CF-related and otherwise.
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<br />What did they pick up on your child's newborn screen- was it elevated IRT? What were the results of his sweat test and genetic testing? (I notice you say you and your dh are getting tested... wondering if the baby has been.) What made them decide he had 'atypical' CF vs. just 'CF'?
 

alkthatcher

New member
Yeah, seeing those statistics is what made me think we should check CHOP out, and just because in this area it's considered the best children's hospital around.

They picked up a CF marker in Bobby's newborn screen, but we weren't terribly worried about it, partially because they said it was pretty common to have the marker of a carrier and partially because we were worried about other things. I remember joking "we'll have to test all the girls he brings home!"

He's not yet had his sweat test since he was so small, it's scheduled now for later this month. A sample was sent to the duPont genetics team for a full work up since he had the marker and all the lung problems and some problems with secretions, and then we got those results back that he had the CF marker plus this other abnormal mutation. Then my husband and I got our blood taken, and those are the results we just got back, that each of us passed on one mutation. His secretions really haven't been a problem for months, he seems to have grown out of that for now. He does have a rather persistent cough that I always thought was due to his reflux, it kind of seems like reflux - sounds very painful. But now I'm wondering if it's the CF.

Thank you very much Harriet.
 

alkthatcher

New member
Yeah, seeing those statistics is what made me think we should check CHOP out, and just because in this area it's considered the best children's hospital around.

They picked up a CF marker in Bobby's newborn screen, but we weren't terribly worried about it, partially because they said it was pretty common to have the marker of a carrier and partially because we were worried about other things. I remember joking "we'll have to test all the girls he brings home!"

He's not yet had his sweat test since he was so small, it's scheduled now for later this month. A sample was sent to the duPont genetics team for a full work up since he had the marker and all the lung problems and some problems with secretions, and then we got those results back that he had the CF marker plus this other abnormal mutation. Then my husband and I got our blood taken, and those are the results we just got back, that each of us passed on one mutation. His secretions really haven't been a problem for months, he seems to have grown out of that for now. He does have a rather persistent cough that I always thought was due to his reflux, it kind of seems like reflux - sounds very painful. But now I'm wondering if it's the CF.

Thank you very much Harriet.
 

alkthatcher

New member
Yeah, seeing those statistics is what made me think we should check CHOP out, and just because in this area it's considered the best children's hospital around.
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<br />They picked up a CF marker in Bobby's newborn screen, but we weren't terribly worried about it, partially because they said it was pretty common to have the marker of a carrier and partially because we were worried about other things. I remember joking "we'll have to test all the girls he brings home!"
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<br />He's not yet had his sweat test since he was so small, it's scheduled now for later this month. A sample was sent to the duPont genetics team for a full work up since he had the marker and all the lung problems and some problems with secretions, and then we got those results back that he had the CF marker plus this other abnormal mutation. Then my husband and I got our blood taken, and those are the results we just got back, that each of us passed on one mutation. His secretions really haven't been a problem for months, he seems to have grown out of that for now. He does have a rather persistent cough that I always thought was due to his reflux, it kind of seems like reflux - sounds very painful. But now I'm wondering if it's the CF.
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<br />Thank you very much Harriet.
 

LisaGreene

New member
This info might help clarify (or might confuse even more). It's an info sheet for another "level" of CF called CFTR- related metabolic syndrome. Many general docs don't know about it. It was just brought to the forefront as a "classification" at the CF conference last year (2009). Talk with your clinic about it. I hope it helps. Lisa

<b>CFTR-Related Metabolic Syndrome (CRMS)</b>
(CFTR stands for Cystic Fibrosis Transmembrane Regulator protein,
which is the salt channel that the "CF gene" makes; see "What Causes CF")


Your child has "CFTR-Related Metabolic Syndrome (CRMS). Your infant had a newborn screen test for cystic fibrosis that gave an intermediate result. Your child does not have cystic fibrosis, but there are several reasons why we want your child to have regular check-ups with a doctor who is a cystic fibrosis specialist.

What is CRMS?
We say that a child has CFTR-Related Metabolic Syndrome (CRMS) when they have had a sweat test or a genetic test that gives an intermediate result. Sweat tests are used to make the diagnosis of cystic fibrosis (CF), a genetic (inherited) disease. CF causes thick mucus to get stuck in the breathing tubes or sinuses, the intestines and organs like the pancreas that are connected to the intestines, or the reproductive tract. Your child does not have CF, but one of two things makes us say that he or she has CRMS:

. The amount of salt in your child's sweat is higher than most children, although it is not high enough for us to say that he or she has CF. This could mean that your child is at higher risk to have problems in the breathing tubes or sinuses, the intestines and organs like the pancreas that are connected to the intestines, or the reproductive tract.

. Your child has one or two mutations in his or her CF genes that don't cause CF, but could mean that your child is at higher risk to have problems in the breathing tubes or sinuses, the intestines and organs like the pancreas that are connected to the intestines, or the reproductive tract.


What causes cystic fibrosis?
To understand CRMS you need to know something about cystic fibrosis (CF). CF is a genetic (inherited) disease. Genes are what tells our body things like "you will have blue eyes" or "you will have curly hair". Genes comes in pairs. You get one from your mother and one from your father. When there is a change in the code in a gene it's called a mutation. Some mutations don't cause any problems at all, but some can cause diseases like CF. People with CF have a disease-causing mutation in each of their two CFTR genes, so they inherited one mutation from their mother and one mutation from their father.

What are the symptoms of cystic fibrosis?
The CFTR gene controls the salt channels in skin, and because they have mutations that cause disease, people with CF have very salty skin. The CF gene also controls the salt channels in parts of the body that are lined with tissues that are like skin - the breathing tubes and sinuses, the intestines and organs like the pancreas that are connected to the intestines, and the reproductive tract. People with CF get thick and sticky mucus in these parts of the body. The breathing tubes get clogged with thick mucus and often people get a germ called Pseudomonas (pronounced "soo-dah-MOAN-us"). When we find Pseudomonas, we treat it because people who have this germ can have worse lung function. People with CF can get very serious and permanent lung problems.

What are the symptoms of CRMS?
We cannot clearly predict the future health of your child, although he or she is likely to remain healthy. Some people with CRMS have developed problems in the breathing tubes or sinuses, the intestines and organs like the pancreas that are connected to the intestines, or the reproductive tract, but we don't know how many people with CRMS don't develop these problems. We think that the best thing to do is for your child to have regular check-ups with a CF specialist so that we can find and treat any early changes if they happen.

You should see your regular doctor and possibly your CF specialist if your child
. is not gaining weight
. has loose stools, very bad gassiness or constipation that last more than 2 weeks
. has very bad stomach aches
. has coughing or wheezing that last more than 2 weeks

If your CF specialist sees your child in an office where there are people with CF, they may take special precautions to be sure that your child is not exposed to the germ called Pseudomonas. It is important to know that Pseudomonas is everywhere, and even healthy babies might have Pseudomonas.

What can we do to keep our child healthy?
As is true for all children, people with CRMS should not be exposed to cigarette smoke. All children who are over 6 months of age should receive yearly influenza vaccine.


This teaching sheet may be reproduced without permission
 

LisaGreene

New member
This info might help clarify (or might confuse even more). It's an info sheet for another "level" of CF called CFTR- related metabolic syndrome. Many general docs don't know about it. It was just brought to the forefront as a "classification" at the CF conference last year (2009). Talk with your clinic about it. I hope it helps. Lisa

<b>CFTR-Related Metabolic Syndrome (CRMS)</b>
(CFTR stands for Cystic Fibrosis Transmembrane Regulator protein,
which is the salt channel that the "CF gene" makes; see "What Causes CF")


Your child has "CFTR-Related Metabolic Syndrome (CRMS). Your infant had a newborn screen test for cystic fibrosis that gave an intermediate result. Your child does not have cystic fibrosis, but there are several reasons why we want your child to have regular check-ups with a doctor who is a cystic fibrosis specialist.

What is CRMS?
We say that a child has CFTR-Related Metabolic Syndrome (CRMS) when they have had a sweat test or a genetic test that gives an intermediate result. Sweat tests are used to make the diagnosis of cystic fibrosis (CF), a genetic (inherited) disease. CF causes thick mucus to get stuck in the breathing tubes or sinuses, the intestines and organs like the pancreas that are connected to the intestines, or the reproductive tract. Your child does not have CF, but one of two things makes us say that he or she has CRMS:

. The amount of salt in your child's sweat is higher than most children, although it is not high enough for us to say that he or she has CF. This could mean that your child is at higher risk to have problems in the breathing tubes or sinuses, the intestines and organs like the pancreas that are connected to the intestines, or the reproductive tract.

. Your child has one or two mutations in his or her CF genes that don't cause CF, but could mean that your child is at higher risk to have problems in the breathing tubes or sinuses, the intestines and organs like the pancreas that are connected to the intestines, or the reproductive tract.


What causes cystic fibrosis?
To understand CRMS you need to know something about cystic fibrosis (CF). CF is a genetic (inherited) disease. Genes are what tells our body things like "you will have blue eyes" or "you will have curly hair". Genes comes in pairs. You get one from your mother and one from your father. When there is a change in the code in a gene it's called a mutation. Some mutations don't cause any problems at all, but some can cause diseases like CF. People with CF have a disease-causing mutation in each of their two CFTR genes, so they inherited one mutation from their mother and one mutation from their father.

What are the symptoms of cystic fibrosis?
The CFTR gene controls the salt channels in skin, and because they have mutations that cause disease, people with CF have very salty skin. The CF gene also controls the salt channels in parts of the body that are lined with tissues that are like skin - the breathing tubes and sinuses, the intestines and organs like the pancreas that are connected to the intestines, and the reproductive tract. People with CF get thick and sticky mucus in these parts of the body. The breathing tubes get clogged with thick mucus and often people get a germ called Pseudomonas (pronounced "soo-dah-MOAN-us"). When we find Pseudomonas, we treat it because people who have this germ can have worse lung function. People with CF can get very serious and permanent lung problems.

What are the symptoms of CRMS?
We cannot clearly predict the future health of your child, although he or she is likely to remain healthy. Some people with CRMS have developed problems in the breathing tubes or sinuses, the intestines and organs like the pancreas that are connected to the intestines, or the reproductive tract, but we don't know how many people with CRMS don't develop these problems. We think that the best thing to do is for your child to have regular check-ups with a CF specialist so that we can find and treat any early changes if they happen.

You should see your regular doctor and possibly your CF specialist if your child
. is not gaining weight
. has loose stools, very bad gassiness or constipation that last more than 2 weeks
. has very bad stomach aches
. has coughing or wheezing that last more than 2 weeks

If your CF specialist sees your child in an office where there are people with CF, they may take special precautions to be sure that your child is not exposed to the germ called Pseudomonas. It is important to know that Pseudomonas is everywhere, and even healthy babies might have Pseudomonas.

What can we do to keep our child healthy?
As is true for all children, people with CRMS should not be exposed to cigarette smoke. All children who are over 6 months of age should receive yearly influenza vaccine.


This teaching sheet may be reproduced without permission
 

LisaGreene

New member
This info might help clarify (or might confuse even more). It's an info sheet for another "level" of CF called CFTR- related metabolic syndrome. Many general docs don't know about it. It was just brought to the forefront as a "classification" at the CF conference last year (2009). Talk with your clinic about it. I hope it helps. Lisa
<br />
<br /><b>CFTR-Related Metabolic Syndrome (CRMS)</b>
<br />(CFTR stands for Cystic Fibrosis Transmembrane Regulator protein,
<br />which is the salt channel that the "CF gene" makes; see "What Causes CF")
<br />
<br />
<br />Your child has "CFTR-Related Metabolic Syndrome (CRMS). Your infant had a newborn screen test for cystic fibrosis that gave an intermediate result. Your child does not have cystic fibrosis, but there are several reasons why we want your child to have regular check-ups with a doctor who is a cystic fibrosis specialist.
<br />
<br />What is CRMS?
<br />We say that a child has CFTR-Related Metabolic Syndrome (CRMS) when they have had a sweat test or a genetic test that gives an intermediate result. Sweat tests are used to make the diagnosis of cystic fibrosis (CF), a genetic (inherited) disease. CF causes thick mucus to get stuck in the breathing tubes or sinuses, the intestines and organs like the pancreas that are connected to the intestines, or the reproductive tract. Your child does not have CF, but one of two things makes us say that he or she has CRMS:
<br />
<br />. The amount of salt in your child's sweat is higher than most children, although it is not high enough for us to say that he or she has CF. This could mean that your child is at higher risk to have problems in the breathing tubes or sinuses, the intestines and organs like the pancreas that are connected to the intestines, or the reproductive tract.
<br />
<br />. Your child has one or two mutations in his or her CF genes that don't cause CF, but could mean that your child is at higher risk to have problems in the breathing tubes or sinuses, the intestines and organs like the pancreas that are connected to the intestines, or the reproductive tract.
<br />
<br />
<br />What causes cystic fibrosis?
<br />To understand CRMS you need to know something about cystic fibrosis (CF). CF is a genetic (inherited) disease. Genes are what tells our body things like "you will have blue eyes" or "you will have curly hair". Genes comes in pairs. You get one from your mother and one from your father. When there is a change in the code in a gene it's called a mutation. Some mutations don't cause any problems at all, but some can cause diseases like CF. People with CF have a disease-causing mutation in each of their two CFTR genes, so they inherited one mutation from their mother and one mutation from their father.
<br />
<br />What are the symptoms of cystic fibrosis?
<br />The CFTR gene controls the salt channels in skin, and because they have mutations that cause disease, people with CF have very salty skin. The CF gene also controls the salt channels in parts of the body that are lined with tissues that are like skin - the breathing tubes and sinuses, the intestines and organs like the pancreas that are connected to the intestines, and the reproductive tract. People with CF get thick and sticky mucus in these parts of the body. The breathing tubes get clogged with thick mucus and often people get a germ called Pseudomonas (pronounced "soo-dah-MOAN-us"). When we find Pseudomonas, we treat it because people who have this germ can have worse lung function. People with CF can get very serious and permanent lung problems.
<br />
<br />What are the symptoms of CRMS?
<br />We cannot clearly predict the future health of your child, although he or she is likely to remain healthy. Some people with CRMS have developed problems in the breathing tubes or sinuses, the intestines and organs like the pancreas that are connected to the intestines, or the reproductive tract, but we don't know how many people with CRMS don't develop these problems. We think that the best thing to do is for your child to have regular check-ups with a CF specialist so that we can find and treat any early changes if they happen.
<br />
<br />You should see your regular doctor and possibly your CF specialist if your child
<br />. is not gaining weight
<br />. has loose stools, very bad gassiness or constipation that last more than 2 weeks
<br />. has very bad stomach aches
<br />. has coughing or wheezing that last more than 2 weeks
<br />
<br />If your CF specialist sees your child in an office where there are people with CF, they may take special precautions to be sure that your child is not exposed to the germ called Pseudomonas. It is important to know that Pseudomonas is everywhere, and even healthy babies might have Pseudomonas.
<br />
<br />What can we do to keep our child healthy?
<br />As is true for all children, people with CRMS should not be exposed to cigarette smoke. All children who are over 6 months of age should receive yearly influenza vaccine.
<br />
<br />
<br />This teaching sheet may be reproduced without permission
 
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