BPP's

mom2lillian

New member
just a note

yes the induction is often due to gestational diabetes. There is data out there showing that gestational diabetes increases risk of a c-section and other birth complications. There is also the fact that the placenta gets 'old' faster and towards end the baby can have a harder time getting enough oxygen and nutrtients, then there is also the fact that some docs are inducing to 'save your lungs' with CF but this so far as I have seen statistically is unwarranted for those that are healthy. ALl these reasons are why they are doing the BPP SO if the BPP is good then they are already addressing this and tehre is no true need to proactively induce. If you look at the data there is a large trend toward inducing mothers early, especially with diabetes, simply to avoid the possibility of problems law suits and the like.
 

mom2lillian

New member
just a note

yes the induction is often due to gestational diabetes. There is data out there showing that gestational diabetes increases risk of a c-section and other birth complications. There is also the fact that the placenta gets 'old' faster and towards end the baby can have a harder time getting enough oxygen and nutrtients, then there is also the fact that some docs are inducing to 'save your lungs' with CF but this so far as I have seen statistically is unwarranted for those that are healthy. ALl these reasons are why they are doing the BPP SO if the BPP is good then they are already addressing this and tehre is no true need to proactively induce. If you look at the data there is a large trend toward inducing mothers early, especially with diabetes, simply to avoid the possibility of problems law suits and the like.
 

mom2lillian

New member
just a note

yes the induction is often due to gestational diabetes. There is data out there showing that gestational diabetes increases risk of a c-section and other birth complications. There is also the fact that the placenta gets 'old' faster and towards end the baby can have a harder time getting enough oxygen and nutrtients, then there is also the fact that some docs are inducing to 'save your lungs' with CF but this so far as I have seen statistically is unwarranted for those that are healthy. ALl these reasons are why they are doing the BPP SO if the BPP is good then they are already addressing this and tehre is no true need to proactively induce. If you look at the data there is a large trend toward inducing mothers early, especially with diabetes, simply to avoid the possibility of problems law suits and the like.
 

mom2lillian

New member
just a note

yes the induction is often due to gestational diabetes. There is data out there showing that gestational diabetes increases risk of a c-section and other birth complications. There is also the fact that the placenta gets 'old' faster and towards end the baby can have a harder time getting enough oxygen and nutrtients, then there is also the fact that some docs are inducing to 'save your lungs' with CF but this so far as I have seen statistically is unwarranted for those that are healthy. ALl these reasons are why they are doing the BPP SO if the BPP is good then they are already addressing this and tehre is no true need to proactively induce. If you look at the data there is a large trend toward inducing mothers early, especially with diabetes, simply to avoid the possibility of problems law suits and the like.
 

mom2lillian

New member
just a note

yes the induction is often due to gestational diabetes. There is data out there showing that gestational diabetes increases risk of a c-section and other birth complications. There is also the fact that the placenta gets 'old' faster and towards end the baby can have a harder time getting enough oxygen and nutrtients, then there is also the fact that some docs are inducing to 'save your lungs' with CF but this so far as I have seen statistically is unwarranted for those that are healthy. ALl these reasons are why they are doing the BPP SO if the BPP is good then they are already addressing this and tehre is no true need to proactively induce. If you look at the data there is a large trend toward inducing mothers early, especially with diabetes, simply to avoid the possibility of problems law suits and the like.
 
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Keepercjr

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>becca23</b></i>

They might be considering inducing due to the fact that you have gestational diabetes. It can cause babies to be exceptionally large. I personally would talk to my cf and ob docs and weigh out there decisions.</end quote></div>

<u>Uncontrolled </u>GD can lead to large babies. But the ACOG does not consider possible large babies as a reason to induce. If a doctor induces (or c-sections) for large babies he's not following the guidelines of his own organization! But that doesn't stop them from doing it all the time. And ultrasounds in the latter months can be off up to 2 lbs either way so there is no real way of telling if your baby will be that huge or not. The only way to say if a baby is too big for a mom to push out is a trial of labor and a lengthy pushing stage where the mom pushes in several positions. Only then can you say that possibly the baby was too big. But fat squishes and the most common reason moms can't get babies out is not because they're too big but because they're malpositioned. Add to that pushing flat on your back with your legs up is actually the worst position to push it from an anatomical standpoint. If you push while squatting or on hands and knees you open your pelvic outlet up to 30% more than while lying on your back. Most labor and delivery beds have squat bar attachments that you can use.
 
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Keepercjr

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>becca23</b></i>

They might be considering inducing due to the fact that you have gestational diabetes. It can cause babies to be exceptionally large. I personally would talk to my cf and ob docs and weigh out there decisions.</end quote></div>

<u>Uncontrolled </u>GD can lead to large babies. But the ACOG does not consider possible large babies as a reason to induce. If a doctor induces (or c-sections) for large babies he's not following the guidelines of his own organization! But that doesn't stop them from doing it all the time. And ultrasounds in the latter months can be off up to 2 lbs either way so there is no real way of telling if your baby will be that huge or not. The only way to say if a baby is too big for a mom to push out is a trial of labor and a lengthy pushing stage where the mom pushes in several positions. Only then can you say that possibly the baby was too big. But fat squishes and the most common reason moms can't get babies out is not because they're too big but because they're malpositioned. Add to that pushing flat on your back with your legs up is actually the worst position to push it from an anatomical standpoint. If you push while squatting or on hands and knees you open your pelvic outlet up to 30% more than while lying on your back. Most labor and delivery beds have squat bar attachments that you can use.
 
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Keepercjr

Guest
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>becca23</b></i>

They might be considering inducing due to the fact that you have gestational diabetes. It can cause babies to be exceptionally large. I personally would talk to my cf and ob docs and weigh out there decisions.</end quote></div>

<u>Uncontrolled </u>GD can lead to large babies. But the ACOG does not consider possible large babies as a reason to induce. If a doctor induces (or c-sections) for large babies he's not following the guidelines of his own organization! But that doesn't stop them from doing it all the time. And ultrasounds in the latter months can be off up to 2 lbs either way so there is no real way of telling if your baby will be that huge or not. The only way to say if a baby is too big for a mom to push out is a trial of labor and a lengthy pushing stage where the mom pushes in several positions. Only then can you say that possibly the baby was too big. But fat squishes and the most common reason moms can't get babies out is not because they're too big but because they're malpositioned. Add to that pushing flat on your back with your legs up is actually the worst position to push it from an anatomical standpoint. If you push while squatting or on hands and knees you open your pelvic outlet up to 30% more than while lying on your back. Most labor and delivery beds have squat bar attachments that you can use.
 
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Keepercjr

Guest
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>becca23</b></i>

They might be considering inducing due to the fact that you have gestational diabetes. It can cause babies to be exceptionally large. I personally would talk to my cf and ob docs and weigh out there decisions.</end quote>

<u>Uncontrolled </u>GD can lead to large babies. But the ACOG does not consider possible large babies as a reason to induce. If a doctor induces (or c-sections) for large babies he's not following the guidelines of his own organization! But that doesn't stop them from doing it all the time. And ultrasounds in the latter months can be off up to 2 lbs either way so there is no real way of telling if your baby will be that huge or not. The only way to say if a baby is too big for a mom to push out is a trial of labor and a lengthy pushing stage where the mom pushes in several positions. Only then can you say that possibly the baby was too big. But fat squishes and the most common reason moms can't get babies out is not because they're too big but because they're malpositioned. Add to that pushing flat on your back with your legs up is actually the worst position to push it from an anatomical standpoint. If you push while squatting or on hands and knees you open your pelvic outlet up to 30% more than while lying on your back. Most labor and delivery beds have squat bar attachments that you can use.
 
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Keepercjr

Guest
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>becca23</b></i>

They might be considering inducing due to the fact that you have gestational diabetes. It can cause babies to be exceptionally large. I personally would talk to my cf and ob docs and weigh out there decisions.</end quote>

<u>Uncontrolled </u>GD can lead to large babies. But the ACOG does not consider possible large babies as a reason to induce. If a doctor induces (or c-sections) for large babies he's not following the guidelines of his own organization! But that doesn't stop them from doing it all the time. And ultrasounds in the latter months can be off up to 2 lbs either way so there is no real way of telling if your baby will be that huge or not. The only way to say if a baby is too big for a mom to push out is a trial of labor and a lengthy pushing stage where the mom pushes in several positions. Only then can you say that possibly the baby was too big. But fat squishes and the most common reason moms can't get babies out is not because they're too big but because they're malpositioned. Add to that pushing flat on your back with your legs up is actually the worst position to push it from an anatomical standpoint. If you push while squatting or on hands and knees you open your pelvic outlet up to 30% more than while lying on your back. Most labor and delivery beds have squat bar attachments that you can use.
 

wanderlost

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>mom2lillian</b></i>

just a note



yes the induction is often due to gestational diabetes. There is data out there showing that gestational diabetes increases risk of a c-section and other birth complications. There is also the fact that the placenta gets 'old' faster and towards end the baby can have a harder time getting enough oxygen and nutrtients, then there is also the fact that some docs are inducing to 'save your lungs' with CF but this so far as I have seen statistically is unwarranted for those that are healthy. ALl these reasons are why they are doing the BPP SO if the BPP is good then they are already addressing this and tehre is no true need to proactively induce. If you look at the data there is a large trend toward inducing mothers early, especially with diabetes, simply to avoid the possibility of problems law suits and the like.</end quote></div>


Yes, and I think one or 2 BPPs would suffice - like at 36 and 38 weeks or something, maybe another if you go over 40 weeks - I know they don't like to let GD moms go over.

As far as the c-section thing, while I realize that there are true medical emergencies where baby and/or mom are saved by c=section, all the recent research shows that c-sections are being far over used and are related to greater infant and mother mortality rates. Nature intended babies to come out of the vagina and the human body is a wonderful thing and is amazing in what it can accomplish - my girlfriedn recently delivered a 10lb 11 oz baby boy vaginally - and that size baby is the typical "we better do a c-section" baby. Women deliver twins vaginally - even triplets when they believe in theri bodies.

I don't think a c-section would keep you from bonding with your baby, but it can make breastfeeding harder, it doesn't often allow mom to hold and nurse baby right after birth, and a baby born too ealry, especially via c-section is more apt to need NICU time - did you know that all that strain on baby being pushed out of the vagina actually helps to get their lungs ready to work?

so while I see the need for emergency c-sections, If I wasn't in a true emergency situation, I would never let anyone convince me to have my child any other way than what nature intended. That's my opinion anyway.

Inform youself!
 

wanderlost

New member
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>mom2lillian</b></i>

just a note



yes the induction is often due to gestational diabetes. There is data out there showing that gestational diabetes increases risk of a c-section and other birth complications. There is also the fact that the placenta gets 'old' faster and towards end the baby can have a harder time getting enough oxygen and nutrtients, then there is also the fact that some docs are inducing to 'save your lungs' with CF but this so far as I have seen statistically is unwarranted for those that are healthy. ALl these reasons are why they are doing the BPP SO if the BPP is good then they are already addressing this and tehre is no true need to proactively induce. If you look at the data there is a large trend toward inducing mothers early, especially with diabetes, simply to avoid the possibility of problems law suits and the like.</end quote></div>


Yes, and I think one or 2 BPPs would suffice - like at 36 and 38 weeks or something, maybe another if you go over 40 weeks - I know they don't like to let GD moms go over.

As far as the c-section thing, while I realize that there are true medical emergencies where baby and/or mom are saved by c=section, all the recent research shows that c-sections are being far over used and are related to greater infant and mother mortality rates. Nature intended babies to come out of the vagina and the human body is a wonderful thing and is amazing in what it can accomplish - my girlfriedn recently delivered a 10lb 11 oz baby boy vaginally - and that size baby is the typical "we better do a c-section" baby. Women deliver twins vaginally - even triplets when they believe in theri bodies.

I don't think a c-section would keep you from bonding with your baby, but it can make breastfeeding harder, it doesn't often allow mom to hold and nurse baby right after birth, and a baby born too ealry, especially via c-section is more apt to need NICU time - did you know that all that strain on baby being pushed out of the vagina actually helps to get their lungs ready to work?

so while I see the need for emergency c-sections, If I wasn't in a true emergency situation, I would never let anyone convince me to have my child any other way than what nature intended. That's my opinion anyway.

Inform youself!
 

wanderlost

New member
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>mom2lillian</b></i>

just a note



yes the induction is often due to gestational diabetes. There is data out there showing that gestational diabetes increases risk of a c-section and other birth complications. There is also the fact that the placenta gets 'old' faster and towards end the baby can have a harder time getting enough oxygen and nutrtients, then there is also the fact that some docs are inducing to 'save your lungs' with CF but this so far as I have seen statistically is unwarranted for those that are healthy. ALl these reasons are why they are doing the BPP SO if the BPP is good then they are already addressing this and tehre is no true need to proactively induce. If you look at the data there is a large trend toward inducing mothers early, especially with diabetes, simply to avoid the possibility of problems law suits and the like.</end quote></div>


Yes, and I think one or 2 BPPs would suffice - like at 36 and 38 weeks or something, maybe another if you go over 40 weeks - I know they don't like to let GD moms go over.

As far as the c-section thing, while I realize that there are true medical emergencies where baby and/or mom are saved by c=section, all the recent research shows that c-sections are being far over used and are related to greater infant and mother mortality rates. Nature intended babies to come out of the vagina and the human body is a wonderful thing and is amazing in what it can accomplish - my girlfriedn recently delivered a 10lb 11 oz baby boy vaginally - and that size baby is the typical "we better do a c-section" baby. Women deliver twins vaginally - even triplets when they believe in theri bodies.

I don't think a c-section would keep you from bonding with your baby, but it can make breastfeeding harder, it doesn't often allow mom to hold and nurse baby right after birth, and a baby born too ealry, especially via c-section is more apt to need NICU time - did you know that all that strain on baby being pushed out of the vagina actually helps to get their lungs ready to work?

so while I see the need for emergency c-sections, If I wasn't in a true emergency situation, I would never let anyone convince me to have my child any other way than what nature intended. That's my opinion anyway.

Inform youself!
 

wanderlost

New member
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>mom2lillian</b></i>

just a note



yes the induction is often due to gestational diabetes. There is data out there showing that gestational diabetes increases risk of a c-section and other birth complications. There is also the fact that the placenta gets 'old' faster and towards end the baby can have a harder time getting enough oxygen and nutrtients, then there is also the fact that some docs are inducing to 'save your lungs' with CF but this so far as I have seen statistically is unwarranted for those that are healthy. ALl these reasons are why they are doing the BPP SO if the BPP is good then they are already addressing this and tehre is no true need to proactively induce. If you look at the data there is a large trend toward inducing mothers early, especially with diabetes, simply to avoid the possibility of problems law suits and the like.</end quote>


Yes, and I think one or 2 BPPs would suffice - like at 36 and 38 weeks or something, maybe another if you go over 40 weeks - I know they don't like to let GD moms go over.

As far as the c-section thing, while I realize that there are true medical emergencies where baby and/or mom are saved by c=section, all the recent research shows that c-sections are being far over used and are related to greater infant and mother mortality rates. Nature intended babies to come out of the vagina and the human body is a wonderful thing and is amazing in what it can accomplish - my girlfriedn recently delivered a 10lb 11 oz baby boy vaginally - and that size baby is the typical "we better do a c-section" baby. Women deliver twins vaginally - even triplets when they believe in theri bodies.

I don't think a c-section would keep you from bonding with your baby, but it can make breastfeeding harder, it doesn't often allow mom to hold and nurse baby right after birth, and a baby born too ealry, especially via c-section is more apt to need NICU time - did you know that all that strain on baby being pushed out of the vagina actually helps to get their lungs ready to work?

so while I see the need for emergency c-sections, If I wasn't in a true emergency situation, I would never let anyone convince me to have my child any other way than what nature intended. That's my opinion anyway.

Inform youself!
 

wanderlost

New member
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>mom2lillian</b></i>

just a note



yes the induction is often due to gestational diabetes. There is data out there showing that gestational diabetes increases risk of a c-section and other birth complications. There is also the fact that the placenta gets 'old' faster and towards end the baby can have a harder time getting enough oxygen and nutrtients, then there is also the fact that some docs are inducing to 'save your lungs' with CF but this so far as I have seen statistically is unwarranted for those that are healthy. ALl these reasons are why they are doing the BPP SO if the BPP is good then they are already addressing this and tehre is no true need to proactively induce. If you look at the data there is a large trend toward inducing mothers early, especially with diabetes, simply to avoid the possibility of problems law suits and the like.</end quote>


Yes, and I think one or 2 BPPs would suffice - like at 36 and 38 weeks or something, maybe another if you go over 40 weeks - I know they don't like to let GD moms go over.

As far as the c-section thing, while I realize that there are true medical emergencies where baby and/or mom are saved by c=section, all the recent research shows that c-sections are being far over used and are related to greater infant and mother mortality rates. Nature intended babies to come out of the vagina and the human body is a wonderful thing and is amazing in what it can accomplish - my girlfriedn recently delivered a 10lb 11 oz baby boy vaginally - and that size baby is the typical "we better do a c-section" baby. Women deliver twins vaginally - even triplets when they believe in theri bodies.

I don't think a c-section would keep you from bonding with your baby, but it can make breastfeeding harder, it doesn't often allow mom to hold and nurse baby right after birth, and a baby born too ealry, especially via c-section is more apt to need NICU time - did you know that all that strain on baby being pushed out of the vagina actually helps to get their lungs ready to work?

so while I see the need for emergency c-sections, If I wasn't in a true emergency situation, I would never let anyone convince me to have my child any other way than what nature intended. That's my opinion anyway.

Inform youself!
 
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