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Ender

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Risa, I wouldn't create this post as anonymous, and then repost as myself....??? That's kinda wierd...

As far as role models go...please. This is a cf forum. Look around you...everyone smokes, it's on the media, it's on the streets. I don't think a young child with cf will read this and be like "oh, a cfer smokes, I can smoke!" Besides, there are 5 negatives to my one post, so I'm a bit outnumbered.

The thing is, our future was written in the stars. As far at this disease goes, there is no cure. the way you word it, "prepare for the future"...i dunno, that sounds sorta futile. I am not saying, don't fight, please almighty...do...cause that is what makes life great. However, life can't always be about fighting...you gotta live a little too. I dunno...this site is always so serious...ya health is important, but so is living...
 
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JennifersHope

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Yes, I do look for comfort when I write in and also to voice how I am feeling.. I don't think you will find a post from me that is being rude to anyone..minus this one...and I always am grateful for the support I recieve as well as give it back...that has nothing to do with what you are saying.. You weren't looking for support, or if you were you have a funny way of showing it..if I would have seen you looking for support, you would have recieved it from me....

.I strongly feel that it is wrong to shame anyone and I hate seeing people judged..Yes you have the right to voice how you feel but in a way that is respectful. which I didn't do in my last post and for that I apologize.. I still feel the same way I do... you post sounds like you were on a high horse...but I should have worded it nicer.
 
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Ender

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Anyways...there is so much pressure with cf to do this right to do that. Ya it is about rebelling. It's about being in control. Everyone wants you to do this, and do that....half the time you can't even live a normal life, not cause of the treatments, but because of all the expectations.

I talked about my reasons for smoking. Sometimes you just need something that is yours....that you do no matter what the outcome....just to say, f*ck you, I'm alive, and my own person...
 
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ClashPunk82

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I guess everyone needs some release when it comes to CF. Now I don't think smoking is the best way to rebel and take control but if you feel that's right for you then that's fine. If I'm upset or feel like there is too much going on or overwhelemed I put on a funny movie, or I go shopping or I go out with friends for dinner or to the mall or bowling. I love to bowl. Everyone needs someway to vent their frustrations but for me I just couldn't smoke cigs or pot.
 
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65rosessamurai

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I lived with a family full of smokers, and it was terrible...I'd be watching tv, and then my dad would light up, and soon as he finished, one of my younger brothers would come into the room,and light up..then after he was done, either my OTHER younger brother would come in and light up, OR, my dad would light up again!!
One day, while they were all watching tv, and my dad started to light up, I said "Hey, why don't you ALL light one up now, so I just breath in the smoke once, and I can have clean air, after???!!" I didn't notice, cause I got a little pissed, and tired of breathing the smoke and left the room, but I'm sure one of their jaws hit the floor!!
I'd say my cf is VERY mild, but I had to go through a lot, and in my early 20's, had experienced enough to be a little rebellious and smoke a pack of cigarettes!! Actually, I could only handle 1/8 of a pack, and gave it to my little sister (who also smoked, then!), and said not to ask when she asked why I was giving it to her!!
Then, about 4 years ago, I had these recurring dreams of smoking (but never did)!!! Maybe it was cause my ex-wife was smoking behind my back. Whether she did it in front of me,or not, was not the issue...the fact that she kept that secret from me had me wondering what other (evil-doing) secrets she was keeping!!!
As for this thread being seen by youngsters with cf, the best I could say is that they need to learn that this is NOT a wise idea to do, I think my lungs had some damage related to smoking, though poor Christian seemed to have it worse.
 
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Faust

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I'm not gonna get on Kiel's nuts about it. He's a man and is capable of making his own decisions. I do think it's stupid and will directly lead to his accelerated death, but i'm sure he knows that also. Life is a big choose your own adventure book, sometimes you make the wrong choices and pay for it. For myself, I could never see cig smoking as that big of a plus to me to outweigh the huge negatives. Regret is a VERY expensive thing that you can't "do over" though. I hope you eventually change your mind.
 
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Faust

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I didn't say I as a person don't judge others, it would be impossible not to and go about daily activities. I just said I wouldn't get on the boys nuts about it. He isn't stupid, he knows whats up with what he is doing. He knows he would probably die sooner if he continues to smoke. Kiel doesn't have downs or a head wound, he knows these things.
 
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CowTown

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These 2 conversations, one on pot and the other on cigarette smoking, seem so silly to me. I mean come on....I've heard people wanting to legalize pot since I was like 16. Yah, people will always want it legalized, and the other bunch will cry if that happens. Cigarette smoking is the same when it comes to everyone. The people who want it to stop will cry like a baby when it's taken away and those that want clean air will be so happy. I just don't get all the yip yap about either side. If you do either one, it's smoke going into your lungs.....what's there to talk about......getting high? If it's about getting high, then say it's about getting high? Why try to turn smoking anything into your lungs into something positive. I understand if you have cancer or a painful illness and pot will be the most benificial to help the pain.....no problem. If you do it and you know it's bad for you but you can't stop or don't want to, then say it how it is... Whether you're on the side to defend legalizing pot or not, I just happen to feel about that....whatever....so many years now of the same story. That will be a controversial topic til the crows cry. (however the saying goes). We are all still people, some less tied to their CF than others and will experience life as "normal" as possible until we realize we can't anymore. It's all about enjoying your life how you know best, whatever anyone says. Judge smudge. I believe it's in our human nature to judge whether you decide against your own judgement or not.....you happen to do it with everything you read, everything you see, at all times. You can sometimes choose to "not" judge but that is a concious decision, unlike our natural way to determine what we're seeing or feeling at fist sight.

Just blahhhh.........I know so many seem so into these two topics, but really.....why?
 
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65rosessamurai

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Yes, everyone judges. Some may be harsher than others.

And, when I first started on this forum, I chose my words like I was walking on thin ice!!

Some things are just a matter of wording.

Only a cunning linguist could post something and get a postive reply if written properly.

(another two yen, in!!--this is getting expensive for me!)
 
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Faust

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@Newfy:


I personally don't care at all about pot, or many of the things I seem to defend at times. What I do care about is when human beings (especially law makers) are illogical, and create laws that don't make sound sense either pro or con anything...Even more so if the laws are based on something as silly as religion. I have no interest in mary jane being legalize because I don't use it. I just think it's a good idea to point out when things don't make sense to others who seem to not notice it, or choose not to think about the stupidity willingly.
 
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Emily65Roses

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Kelly, for me, very simple. Something to do. Hahaha. Often I spend hours at a time sitting in my room, on my laptop, watching TV, whatever. So when someone brings up a subject I can debate, even if it's useless, it occupies me. Hah. I'm such a dork. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0">
 
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65rosessamurai

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You're such a funny dork sometimes, Em! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">
 
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kybert

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>I don't think a young child with cf will read this and be like "oh, a cfer smokes, I can smoke!"</end quote></div>

dont be so sure about that. i tried smoking when i was a teen because a cfer friend was doing it so i thought it was ok and cool. luckily i wasnt totally clouded by stupidity and i stopped after 1. the friend ended up destroying her lungs and has since died.
 
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jenniferp

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I know this thread is really for CF'ers, but I just couldn't resist sharing my good news, I quit smoking four days ago!!!!!! YEPPY!!!!!!!!!
I must say, it is the hardest thing to do, no joke. I have been such a B#$ch!! Surprised my husband hasn't left me yet, would not be surprised if he doesn't come home after work.lol
I previously quit for three years after the birth of my daughter, but after Andrew was born and we were informed about his brain damage I went right home and lite up a cigarette :-( BIG FREAKING MISTAKE!! I thought I could control it, funny how our minds can so easily forget horrible things, like going through cigarette withdraw, and everything else one goes through when trying to quit and incredibly addictive habit.
I must say that I have NEVER smoked around any of my children, and cannot even imagine sitting with them in a closed up room and smoking a cigarette, the very idea of that just makes me cringe, I would never, as a smoker, subject any one else to my bad habit. I admit to smoking in bars, but, it kinda goes with the territory.
So, just wanted to share that, cause I'm so proud of myself right now. I hate nasty stinky gross cigarettes!!!! And as long as I live I will never take another puff!! Thats my promise to my kids! And my lungs.
 
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Scarlett81

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Congrats to you Jennifer P!!! Go eat a huge boston cream pie as a reward! That's wonderful, for you and your kids.

Ender: FYI, I call everyone honey, but as it bother you, I'll remember not to!
Just wondering something, in the last page, you stated that I of all people should be accepting of people and their choices. Why "I" of all people? What does that refer to in me personally? Just give it to me.
 
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