Cost of Food at Home Estimated for Food Plans

julie

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The thrifty/liberal and different categories mean, how liberally do you spend your money on food. Do you eat on a "thrifty budget" (i.e. usually buy only on sale, no brand names, buy in bulk to save money, buy inexpensive types of foods), or on a liberal plan where you would buy brand names, more expensive foods (expensive types of chicken cuts, expensive types of steaks/cuts) and such. Are you a "bargain" hunter or do you buy more expensive types without care to price. So you and your husband need to decide what you consider yourselves. On ours, I consider myself "thrifty" under the female category and for Mark, I consider him "low cost" under the male category. I do this because even if he didn't have CF, I imagine (his body type, interest in body building...) that he would eat a little more red meat (which is a bit expensive) and some other "name brand" type foods.

From that, you would document ALL you spend on food each month. Then you would subtract the costs indicated for whatever categories you choose for yourself and your husband. For example, say you choose Low cost for both of you, (just an example, and these numbers are just an example too) and the low cost male is $185 and the low cost female is $135. And for January you tracked all your reciepts and your total food expense (grocery store, eating out and throw in a bit of cash) is $650. Well, you would subtract $185 AND $135 from $650 and the remainder is what is deductible. Add that up over 12 months, and that's your "CF food" medical portion. If you ate about the same each month, at the end of the year you would have about $330 a month x12 equals $3960.

Generally, this "CF food" portion in itself is NOT enough to get you the deduction you need. But when it's coupled with other expenses like insurance premiums, copays, prescriptions, over the counter (deductible) medications, medical miles, medical visits, it can add up to be worthwhile. THe only downside is usually you don't know if it will be worthwhile until you do the calculations.

the 7.5% comes into play AFTER you've done all your tallying for medical expenses. In order to take the medical deduction on your taxes, ALL your medical expeses must be equal to or greater than 7.5% of your ADJUSTED GROSS INCOME. Not the income on your W2, but the income after you take any deductions on the front of your 1040 (tuition expenses if you aren't doing a hope or lifetime learning credit, moving expenses if required for a job, self employment tax, ira deduction, student loan interest deduction......

So, if your adjusted gross income is $100,000 then 7.5% of that is $7500 so your TOTAL medica expenses would need to be AT LEAST $7500. And it gets even tricker. The standard deduction for this year is:
$5150 if married filing separately
$10,300 if Married filing jointly/qualifying widow(er)
$7,550 if Head of household

So, if in your itemized deductions category, you ONLY had medical expenses and no other expenses and your medical ONLY totaled $8500 and you are married filing joint, then it would be useless to take your "itemized" deductions because your standard deduction of $10,300 is MORE. But if you have not only $8500 in medical deductions but you also have $6,500 in mortgage interest, $1500 in property taxes, and $600 in donations, then that would be worthwhile because it would take your deductions up to $17,100 in comparison to your $10,300 "standard deduction"
(other expenses included in itemized deductions category are Medical and dental expenses, taxes you paid like state and local, property taxes, personal property taxes, home mortagage interest points/interest on your mortgage, investment interest, gifts/cash to charity, casualty theft and loses, job expenses not reimbursed by employer like uniform, job travel, union dues, job education, tax preparation fees...)

Also, make sure you save ALL reciepts for anything you are deducting. I save mine in a 12 slot envelope throughout the year, and then after I file my taxes, I file all of them, along with all of my credit card reciepts, phone recipets, insurance EOB's and anything else I wish to save, in a small box with the year marked it and SAVE IT for SEVEN (7) years because you can be audited for 7 years. I say for safety, keep for 10 but that's just me.

Also, have you seen the spreadsheet here??? <a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.cysticfibrosis.com/files/julies_food_supplement_log.xls">http://www.cysticfibrosis.com/...ood_supplement_log.xls</a> There are different tabs on the bottom for Food and Medical, Uniform Deductions, Medical Miles... so you can see how I've set it up.
 

Simba15

Member
the link at the end of you post does not work. post again please. good post!
The thrifty/liberal and different categories mean, how liberally do you spend your money on food. Do you eat on a "thrifty budget" (i.e. usually buy only on sale, no brand names, buy in bulk to save money, buy inexpensive types of foods), or on a liberal plan where you would buy brand names, more expensive foods (expensive types of chicken cuts, expensive types of steaks/cuts) and such. Are you a "bargain" hunter or do you buy more expensive types without care to price. So you and your husband need to decide what you consider yourselves. On ours, I consider myself "thrifty" under the female category and for Mark, I consider him "low cost" under the male category. I do this because even if he didn't have CF, I imagine (his body type, interest in body building...) that he would eat a little more red meat (which is a bit expensive) and some other "name brand" type foods.

From that, you would document ALL you spend on food each month. Then you would subtract the costs indicated for whatever categories you choose for yourself and your husband. For example, say you choose Low cost for both of you, (just an example, and these numbers are just an example too) and the low cost male is $185 and the low cost female is $135. And for January you tracked all your reciepts and your total food expense (grocery store, eating out and throw in a bit of cash) is $650. Well, you would subtract $185 AND $135 from $650 and the remainder is what is deductible. Add that up over 12 months, and that's your "CF food" medical portion. If you ate about the same each month, at the end of the year you would have about $330 a month x12 equals $3960.

Generally, this "CF food" portion in itself is NOT enough to get you the deduction you need. But when it's coupled with other expenses like insurance premiums, copays, prescriptions, over the counter (deductible) medications, medical miles, medical visits, it can add up to be worthwhile. THe only downside is usually you don't know if it will be worthwhile until you do the calculations.

the 7.5% comes into play AFTER you've done all your tallying for medical expenses. In order to take the medical deduction on your taxes, ALL your medical expeses must be equal to or greater than 7.5% of your ADJUSTED GROSS INCOME. Not the income on your W2, but the income after you take any deductions on the front of your 1040 (tuition expenses if you aren't doing a hope or lifetime learning credit, moving expenses if required for a job, self employment tax, ira deduction, student loan interest deduction......

So, if your adjusted gross income is $100,000 then 7.5% of that is $7500 so your TOTAL medica expenses would need to be AT LEAST $7500. And it gets even tricker. The standard deduction for this year is:
$5150 if married filing separately
$10,300 if Married filing jointly/qualifying widow(er)
$7,550 if Head of household

So, if in your itemized deductions category, you ONLY had medical expenses and no other expenses and your medical ONLY totaled $8500 and you are married filing joint, then it would be useless to take your "itemized" deductions because your standard deduction of $10,300 is MORE. But if you have not only $8500 in medical deductions but you also have $6,500 in mortgage interest, $1500 in property taxes, and $600 in donations, then that would be worthwhile because it would take your deductions up to $17,100 in comparison to your $10,300 "standard deduction"
(other expenses included in itemized deductions category are Medical and dental expenses, taxes you paid like state and local, property taxes, personal property taxes, home mortagage interest points/interest on your mortgage, investment interest, gifts/cash to charity, casualty theft and loses, job expenses not reimbursed by employer like uniform, job travel, union dues, job education, tax preparation fees...)

Also, make sure you save ALL reciepts for anything you are deducting. I save mine in a 12 slot envelope throughout the year, and then after I file my taxes, I file all of them, along with all of my credit card reciepts, phone recipets, insurance EOB's and anything else I wish to save, in a small box with the year marked it and SAVE IT for SEVEN (7) years because you can be audited for 7 years. I say for safety, keep for 10 but that's just me.

Also, have you seen the spreadsheet here??? <a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.cysticfibrosis.com/files/julies_food_supplement_log.xls">http://www.cysticfibrosis.com/...ood_supplement_log.xls</a> There are different tabs on the bottom for Food and Medical, Uniform Deductions, Medical Miles... so you can see how I've set it up.
 

Simba15

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i want to subscribe to this thread but don't know how. can someone tell me?
Hey guys,

I have a spreadsheet from the CFF that is a copy from the US Department of Agriculture chart titled "Cost of Food at Home Estimated for Food Plans at Four Cost Levels, September 1997."

Anyone have an updated chart? The CFF states that the chart is updated monthly. I've looked on the DOA site and I can't find a thing. Anyone?
 

Simba15

Member
Found original post. This was a discussion between me and someone else on this forum.

New chart for 2014:
http://www.cnpp.usda.gov/Publications/FoodPlans/2014/CostofFoodJan2014.pdf

after I add 20% the total is $362.04. what is the next step? Here are the instructions below:

The yearly average amount on that plan should be 362.04 x 12 = $4,344.48.
Next step is to accumulate 2 weeks of groceries receipts. For example if your receipts totaled $200 for 2 weeks. Your yearly amount is $200 x 26 = $5,200.

Then you take your cost $5200 - $4,344.48 (average cost) the difference = $855.52. The difference is what you can add to your other medical expenses.

I did this back in 2011. I went to the USDA website and got the "Offficial USDA Food Plans: Cost of Food at Home at Four Levels, U.S. Average 2011."
It uses your age - gender group. There are 4 levels, and a weekly cost and monthly cost. You need to decide which level, age group you will use. (It is based on individuals in a 4-person family.) So you need to adjust. ( adjustments rates are on the bottom of the form) For example. a female in the 19-50 age group on the thrifty plan, weekly is $36.20 up to $71.89 on the liberal plan.
For 1 person family you would add 20%. So on the thrifty plan $36.20 *1.20 = $43.44, (new weekly rate x 52 weeks = $2258.88) That would be the average cost for a female in (19-50 age group) in a one person family for a year.
You will need actual receipts for a 2-week period so you can get a biweekly average. (I believe this is what the CFF recommends). So if your actual receipts for two weeks come to $200 x 26 = $5200 (your yearly cost)
Your cost of $5200-2259(Average cost) = 2941 that is the cost over the average person that you should be able to add to your medical expenses.
(This was back in 2011, you need to get the updated form) You will probably want to do this in a spreadsheet. And you might want to do 2 separate biweekly actual receipts averages to see if there is a huge difference. And if you eat out a lot, you probably should use one of the other plans beside the thrifty plan.

For electricity all the machines should have the voltage on the back of them. Your electric bill should have the rate they charge. Then decide how much you use them daily etc. From that you should be able to figure its cost.

I used actual receipts for 2 weeks. There are 52 weeks in a year. 2 x 26 = 52. (That is where the 26 came from)
The 2259 was a rounded number from $2258.88.
I use rates from 2011. They were from the thrifty plan. I chose the weekly rate of $36.20. (this came from the USDA 2011 form) this rate was for a individual in a 4 person family because I was doing this for an individual in a 1 person family it said to add 20%. so 1.20 x 36.20 = 43.44. That would be the weekly rate for a individual in a one person family. The yearly amount would be 43.44 x 52 = $2,258.88 this is the average amount for a one person eating at home on the thrifty plan. I recommend setting this up in a spreadsheet. I believe at least in 2011, the CFF recommends keeping receipts for a 2 week period and using that to get your average.
 
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