Coughing judgment at the gym (or any public space)

Gentrygirl

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It seems that the general public doesn't know what CF is, so the blank stare and an "Oh." is what you'll most likely hear. We have 2 disabilities in our household- my son has CF, and my husband lost his hearing; one ear in the Marines, one to a brain tumor. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif" border="0"> One of my husband's biggest joys is running with his dog, who lets him know when people are coming or talking to him from behind (that's kind of her only skill other than fun tricks). Because of that, she is a service dog (not a really good one, but she falls in the parameters and gives him comfort, which goes a long way when you have disabilities- we're okay with stretching those parameters, we've not had the best of luck with health in our household). The trail we run on goes around a beautiful public park across the street, and the trail does not allow dogs. Except for service dogs. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> Almost every time we run, even though she has her service vest, someone says something about it. Luckily, he can't hear it, but it bothers me. One time, this crabby lady who happened to be standing next to the "No Dogs" sign said "He must be blind- can't he see that sign?!" I had to turn around and say it. "No, he's not blind, but he is deaf. He lost his hearing fighting for your freedom to behave badly, and that is his service dog." Getting to the end of this long story, I promise. So in looking up our rights under the ADA, we found that anyone preventing her from doing her job is breaking the law. For disabilities in general, the whole purpose of the ADA is that the members of the public with disabilities should be accommodated so that they can enjoy the same freedoms as everyone else, like going to the gym. The service dog help websites suggested that we offer as much information as politely as we can to people, including certification cards, etc. One helpful tip (FINALLY THERE) was to have business card sized cards printed that explained the situation, so you can fully inform them without a conversation. That would be for whatever information they need (as a disabled person I am evoking my rights under the ADA to be accompanied by my service dog in public areas), (I have a chronic, incurable, non-contagious disease that makes me cough. As this disease is non-contagious, I am of no danger to the public health. The ADA allows me to enjoy areas that the public enjoys, without exclusion, segregation, or unequal treatment). You can even add the number for the ADA hotline for questions. They really are interfering with your right to enjoy that facility. Beyond their being rude, you do have rights. I didn't look into it, but I would think that along the same lines as the service dog issue, if they interfere with your enjoyment of equal access, they can be fined up to $55,000 for their first violation (should it go that far, which it won't likely). Stand your ground; don't be ashamed. You are doing what you need to do to make yourself healthy, and you owe it to yourself and the people that love you to continue to make yourself strong and healthy. Someone else's ignorance can't be allowed to be the thing that makes your life less enjoyable or that shortens your life, even by a day. Get strong, be strong! Good luck!
 

Gentrygirl

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It seems that the general public doesn't know what CF is, so the blank stare and an "Oh." is what you'll most likely hear. We have 2 disabilities in our household- my son has CF, and my husband lost his hearing; one ear in the Marines, one to a brain tumor. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif" border="0"> One of my husband's biggest joys is running with his dog, who lets him know when people are coming or talking to him from behind (that's kind of her only skill other than fun tricks). Because of that, she is a service dog (not a really good one, but she falls in the parameters and gives him comfort, which goes a long way when you have disabilities- we're okay with stretching those parameters, we've not had the best of luck with health in our household). The trail we run on goes around a beautiful public park across the street, and the trail does not allow dogs. Except for service dogs. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> Almost every time we run, even though she has her service vest, someone says something about it. Luckily, he can't hear it, but it bothers me. One time, this crabby lady who happened to be standing next to the "No Dogs" sign said "He must be blind- can't he see that sign?!" I had to turn around and say it. "No, he's not blind, but he is deaf. He lost his hearing fighting for your freedom to behave badly, and that is his service dog." Getting to the end of this long story, I promise. So in looking up our rights under the ADA, we found that anyone preventing her from doing her job is breaking the law. For disabilities in general, the whole purpose of the ADA is that the members of the public with disabilities should be accommodated so that they can enjoy the same freedoms as everyone else, like going to the gym. The service dog help websites suggested that we offer as much information as politely as we can to people, including certification cards, etc. One helpful tip (FINALLY THERE) was to have business card sized cards printed that explained the situation, so you can fully inform them without a conversation. That would be for whatever information they need (as a disabled person I am evoking my rights under the ADA to be accompanied by my service dog in public areas), (I have a chronic, incurable, non-contagious disease that makes me cough. As this disease is non-contagious, I am of no danger to the public health. The ADA allows me to enjoy areas that the public enjoys, without exclusion, segregation, or unequal treatment). You can even add the number for the ADA hotline for questions. They really are interfering with your right to enjoy that facility. Beyond their being rude, you do have rights. I didn't look into it, but I would think that along the same lines as the service dog issue, if they interfere with your enjoyment of equal access, they can be fined up to $55,000 for their first violation (should it go that far, which it won't likely). Stand your ground; don't be ashamed. You are doing what you need to do to make yourself healthy, and you owe it to yourself and the people that love you to continue to make yourself strong and healthy. Someone else's ignorance can't be allowed to be the thing that makes your life less enjoyable or that shortens your life, even by a day. Get strong, be strong! Good luck!
 
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SeeEff

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erock77, good for you for working out and staying with it <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">
My exercise is walking my dogs for 2 miles, then doing my treadmill for 3 miles - everyday.

Coughing in public is never fun. People look at you & give you the eye-roll or stare-down. But there's only so much you can do. You explained and if they don't like/accept it then that's their problem.

I have a treadmill at home. That's where I feel comfortable.
But you should do what youre comfortable with.
If you have the equipment to do it at home & keep your routine going without being judged, great.
But if you enjoy going to the gym, do it. Don't let lame people derail you from your goals.

Have a great day <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">
 
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SeeEff

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erock77, good for you for working out and staying with it <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">
My exercise is walking my dogs for 2 miles, then doing my treadmill for 3 miles - everyday.

Coughing in public is never fun. People look at you & give you the eye-roll or stare-down. But there's only so much you can do. You explained and if they don't like/accept it then that's their problem.

I have a treadmill at home. That's where I feel comfortable.
But you should do what youre comfortable with.
If you have the equipment to do it at home & keep your routine going without being judged, great.
But if you enjoy going to the gym, do it. Don't let lame people derail you from your goals.

Have a great day <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">
 

suziesmom

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This message is for "jbrandyn". I live about 30 miles SE of Seattle. My daughter has CF and I would be so thrilled to have her speak with you! Let me know if you are interested. Thanks!
 

suziesmom

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This message is for "jbrandyn". I live about 30 miles SE of Seattle. My daughter has CF and I would be so thrilled to have her speak with you! Let me know if you are interested. Thanks!
 

imported_Momto2

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I hate coughing in public. I go to extremes to avoid it w/preventive meds, behaviors, etc. However, of course that doesnt always work. If another person near me were coughing as hard as I sometimes do in public, I would avoid them too! (Whats good for the goose, is good for the gander). If someone shoots me an evil look, or asks about it, I quietly explain I have a non-contagious genetic disease that has destroyed a good portion of my lung, therefore, I dont have enough lungs to breathe well, and so I cough if I get emotional, laugh, exercise, or just about anything else!. Most people understand this explanation and are sympathetic. I dont need them to feel foolish about not knowing what CF is. I am also a big believer in not making my problem theirs.
 

imported_Momto2

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I hate coughing in public. I go to extremes to avoid it w/preventive meds, behaviors, etc. However, of course that doesnt always work. If another person near me were coughing as hard as I sometimes do in public, I would avoid them too! (Whats good for the goose, is good for the gander). If someone shoots me an evil look, or asks about it, I quietly explain I have a non-contagious genetic disease that has destroyed a good portion of my lung, therefore, I dont have enough lungs to breathe well, and so I cough if I get emotional, laugh, exercise, or just about anything else!. Most people understand this explanation and are sympathetic. I dont need them to feel foolish about not knowing what CF is. I am also a big believer in not making my problem theirs.
 

Anomie

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Jrbrandyn. We're up in Lynnwood. Where in the Seattle area do you live and where is this school you attend? I've never heard of it before but I sometimes take classes at the UW in Seattle. Cheers!
 

Anomie

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Jrbrandyn. We're up in Lynnwood. Where in the Seattle area do you live and where is this school you attend? I've never heard of it before but I sometimes take classes at the UW in Seattle. Cheers!
 

rainbowbright88

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I just tell people I have asthma <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> it works out great people know what asthma is and you avoid all the questions
 

rainbowbright88

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I just tell people I have asthma <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> it works out great people know what asthma is and you avoid all the questions
 

jamoncita

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first of all, i have to say i think you handled the situation very well, erock!! i would have been intimidated and very upset by such a rude and confrontational person. he definitely was out of line to comment that he didn't feel better after your explanation. he easily could have removed himself from the premise if he was so uncomfortable. sounds like a regular ol' *****, if you ask me.
you should not feel forced into avoiding the gym just because of people like him. i have definitely gotten comments when i have a coughing fit. usually it's a casual, "are you okay??", and i say i'm fine and move on. only if i have to be around the person regularly will i consider explaining the cf. it instantly helps ease my self-consciousness.
i've noticed with a few individuals (people i'm friendly with) that they'll try to make jokes about how i should stop smoking, and other such stupid comments. at first i was annoyed, though i would laugh it off, but now i really think they are just uncomfortable with being sympathetic and they don't know how to behave in that situation.
anyway, i'm about done with my year membership at my local gym and i plan to work out at home to save money. one of the things i've been thinking is that i'll not only have more money in my pocket, i'll also not have to wait to use equipment, and i won't have to use equipment that others use, which i imagine will have some added health benefits. so.. i dunno, but if you're thinking about working out at home, there are certainly a few benefits to doing so, although i wouldn't stop going to the gym just because someone was a jerk.
good luck, and stay strong!
 

jamoncita

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first of all, i have to say i think you handled the situation very well, erock!! i would have been intimidated and very upset by such a rude and confrontational person. he definitely was out of line to comment that he didn't feel better after your explanation. he easily could have removed himself from the premise if he was so uncomfortable. sounds like a regular ol' *****, if you ask me.
you should not feel forced into avoiding the gym just because of people like him. i have definitely gotten comments when i have a coughing fit. usually it's a casual, "are you okay??", and i say i'm fine and move on. only if i have to be around the person regularly will i consider explaining the cf. it instantly helps ease my self-consciousness.
i've noticed with a few individuals (people i'm friendly with) that they'll try to make jokes about how i should stop smoking, and other such stupid comments. at first i was annoyed, though i would laugh it off, but now i really think they are just uncomfortable with being sympathetic and they don't know how to behave in that situation.
anyway, i'm about done with my year membership at my local gym and i plan to work out at home to save money. one of the things i've been thinking is that i'll not only have more money in my pocket, i'll also not have to wait to use equipment, and i won't have to use equipment that others use, which i imagine will have some added health benefits. so.. i dunno, but if you're thinking about working out at home, there are certainly a few benefits to doing so, although i wouldn't stop going to the gym just because someone was a jerk.
good luck, and stay strong!
 

scanboyd

Member
As Printer has stated, a cough is a Cfers friend. Explain once that you have CF.; if that does not work, then explain nicely that they are free to go else where and work out. If that does not work be blunt, to ---- off. In my adult life, I have never ever passed up a opportunity to cough and spit the mucous out.
Good luck!
 

scanboyd

Member
As Printer has stated, a cough is a Cfers friend. Explain once that you have CF.; if that does not work, then explain nicely that they are free to go else where and work out. If that does not work be blunt, to ---- off. In my adult life, I have never ever passed up a opportunity to cough and spit the mucous out.
Good luck!
 

erock77

Member
Gentry, thanks for sharing the story. I like the idea of carrying a short explanation on cards I can just hand out to anyone looking at me funny.
I need to cough into my small towel more, I went yesterday and did so. A dude that was spotting me did ask if I was okay when I heard me coughing a lot down the hall. I just said it's a chronic thing. I feel weird verbalizing my explanations to strangers, so I like the written approach idea. I'm not a confrontational guy so don't really want to tell someone to f_ck off like others suggested. Especially if I'll see them again, and they can probably kick my ass.

I was tempted to get some equipment at home, but a weight bench and barbell takes up a lot of room in an apartment. So I'll hold off. I did just buy an electric-assist bike, I'm using it to commute 7.5 miles to work now. I get some exercise but get a major boost one hills or if I want to go faster. So that takes care of the cardio.
 

erock77

Member
Gentry, thanks for sharing the story. I like the idea of carrying a short explanation on cards I can just hand out to anyone looking at me funny.
I need to cough into my small towel more, I went yesterday and did so. A dude that was spotting me did ask if I was okay when I heard me coughing a lot down the hall. I just said it's a chronic thing. I feel weird verbalizing my explanations to strangers, so I like the written approach idea. I'm not a confrontational guy so don't really want to tell someone to f_ck off like others suggested. Especially if I'll see them again, and they can probably kick my ass.

I was tempted to get some equipment at home, but a weight bench and barbell takes up a lot of room in an apartment. So I'll hold off. I did just buy an electric-assist bike, I'm using it to commute 7.5 miles to work now. I get some exercise but get a major boost one hills or if I want to go faster. So that takes care of the cardio.
 

Gentrygirl

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I wonder if the same guy would walk up to someone in a wheelchair and with the same rudeness tell them they move too slow or are in his way. I wonder if he would tell a blind man that bumped into him to watch where he's going. To his defense, he doesn't understand what you have. At the same time, it's a disability that you can't prevent, and you should be able to enjoy the same things he does without harassment. You have enough to deal with as it is.
 

Gentrygirl

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I wonder if the same guy would walk up to someone in a wheelchair and with the same rudeness tell them they move too slow or are in his way. I wonder if he would tell a blind man that bumped into him to watch where he's going. To his defense, he doesn't understand what you have. At the same time, it's a disability that you can't prevent, and you should be able to enjoy the same things he does without harassment. You have enough to deal with as it is.
 
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