depressed!!!!(woman problem)

[Faust]

HHmmm...Good thing I actually briefly read this thread, because judging by the title, I was at first going to post how I too have been depressed often due to woman problems <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">


I see we both have a different idea of "woman problem" <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

 

[Faust]

HHmmm...Good thing I actually briefly read this thread, because judging by the title, I was at first going to post how I too have been depressed often due to woman problems <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">


I see we both have a different idea of "woman problem" <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

 

[katyf13]

<blockquote>Quote<br><hr><i>Originally posted by: <b>Anonymous</b></i><br>Em, sometimes they freeze the sperm first from the MicroSurgical Epididymal Sperm Aspiration (MESA) and sometimes they extract it fresh. It really depends on the doctors preference, the patients schedules and the CFers health.



Sarabeth, I know how you feel-I really do. Before we found out my husband's CF is why we weren't getting pregnant, my heart would break every month. I would get so mad at the world that some crack wh*re on the side of the street could have 2 or 3 babies, and some girls are on welfare with 5 kids from 5 different daddy's that just go into foster care, and my husband and I can't just get pregnant-with 1!!!!



I know that feeling! Have you considered some reproductive guidance? Many times an OB can do an exam to see how thick the mucous is in your cervix and prescribe medications to help thin it out and/or produce more than one egg every month.



My husband and I, after 7 years together, 6 years of trying and 2.5 years of actively pursuing IVF. We have finally gotten pregnant, but it was a lot of work and a lot of $$$. The female problems are usually solved by non-invasive procedures and less expensive medications.



I am sorry for your frustrations,<hr></blockquote>

 

[katyf13]

<blockquote>Quote<br><hr><i>Originally posted by: <b>Anonymous</b></i><br>Em, sometimes they freeze the sperm first from the MicroSurgical Epididymal Sperm Aspiration (MESA) and sometimes they extract it fresh. It really depends on the doctors preference, the patients schedules and the CFers health.



Sarabeth, I know how you feel-I really do. Before we found out my husband's CF is why we weren't getting pregnant, my heart would break every month. I would get so mad at the world that some crack wh*re on the side of the street could have 2 or 3 babies, and some girls are on welfare with 5 kids from 5 different daddy's that just go into foster care, and my husband and I can't just get pregnant-with 1!!!!



I know that feeling! Have you considered some reproductive guidance? Many times an OB can do an exam to see how thick the mucous is in your cervix and prescribe medications to help thin it out and/or produce more than one egg every month.



My husband and I, after 7 years together, 6 years of trying and 2.5 years of actively pursuing IVF. We have finally gotten pregnant, but it was a lot of work and a lot of $$$. The female problems are usually solved by non-invasive procedures and less expensive medications.



I am sorry for your frustrations,<hr></blockquote>

 

[katyf13]

sorry, apparently I have no idea how to quote! I was going to quote the part that said something like "female problems aren't as expensive or invasive". This may be a dumb question, or one I could look up somewhere, but once you do the MESA, is it easy from there or do you always have to go through with IVF? Just wondering, not planning on anything yet <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

I"m sorry for all you who are frustrated. I fear I may feel the same in several years when that's something we are thinking about. Good luck to all!

 

[katyf13]

sorry, apparently I have no idea how to quote! I was going to quote the part that said something like "female problems aren't as expensive or invasive". This may be a dumb question, or one I could look up somewhere, but once you do the MESA, is it easy from there or do you always have to go through with IVF? Just wondering, not planning on anything yet <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

I"m sorry for all you who are frustrated. I fear I may feel the same in several years when that's something we are thinking about. Good luck to all!

 

[anonymous]

I understand exactly how you feel. We wanted children too, and it just isn't in the cards for us. I have come to terms with it for the most part, but at times it still hurts. Like now, I work with about 6 women who are pregnant or were recently pregnant, and that is hard to deal with. The pain has gotten easier but I think its always going to be there in my case.

 

[anonymous]

I understand exactly how you feel. We wanted children too, and it just isn't in the cards for us. I have come to terms with it for the most part, but at times it still hurts. Like now, I work with about 6 women who are pregnant or were recently pregnant, and that is hard to deal with. The pain has gotten easier but I think its always going to be there in my case.

 

[julie]

I was the anon. poster at 3:26 today. I guess I posted at work without logging in and didn't notice it-oops.

 

[julie]

I was the anon. poster at 3:26 today. I guess I posted at work without logging in and didn't notice it-oops.

 

[rebekahphillips]

Just keep on praying and trying!
There is always adoption. A couple of people in my family are adopted. There are many stories that when someone adopted they have a child of theire own. The adopted people in my family are just like a pesrson who has been born into the family.
I know this is personnal question. But what is your aunt planning to do with the baby? There are also stories that when a family member doesn't want to have a baby, they give the baby to another baby in the family.

 

[rebekahphillips]

Just keep on praying and trying!
There is always adoption. A couple of people in my family are adopted. There are many stories that when someone adopted they have a child of theire own. The adopted people in my family are just like a pesrson who has been born into the family.
I know this is personnal question. But what is your aunt planning to do with the baby? There are also stories that when a family member doesn't want to have a baby, they give the baby to another baby in the family.

 

[Rutgersnyy]

<blockquote>Quote<br><hr><i>Originally posted by: <b>karenbad</b></i><br><blockquote>Quote
<hr><i>Originally posted by: <b>Rutgersnyy</b></i>
Karen, you have a husband who has CF?







How many cycles did it take for you to have each of your 2 children?







When did he get MESA surgery?







How much money did you spend on MESA and IVF?<hr></blockquote>



Without going into two much detail, I have one child through one lucky chance at IVF. My husbands work has an awesome insurance plan and they covered at least 90%. I think it was about 10 grand and we paid the 10%. We went through lots to get there. I cant even remember what most of it is called. Where they take the sperm and implant it (I remember that wasnt very expensive) Then they decided I had endometriosis. I will tell you the best thing for me. We had the leader in IVF in a very large area taking care of us. I highly recomend the center for reproductive health in Cincinati. We never had any questions unanswered. They treated us and every patient with kid gloves. It was a great experience. Ask around, I am sure there is someone fabulous in your area. We were def. lucky to get pregnant on the first IVF round. I am very grateful. I make it sound so easy but as you know, It was a very long road. It all seems so trivial now that I have Kayla. At the time, it seemed so tiresome and bothersome, all the appts and the meds. Now I realize it was worth it. You see we had to go through that to get here. I wish you luck on your journey.<hr></blockquote>

How old were you when you had your child? what insurance do you have? If IVF is only 10k why don't more people try it, isn't 10k worth a child? If you can get a loan for a house that is 200k, can you get a loan for IVF?

 

[Rutgersnyy]

<blockquote>Quote<br><hr><i>Originally posted by: <b>karenbad</b></i><br><blockquote>Quote
<hr><i>Originally posted by: <b>Rutgersnyy</b></i>
Karen, you have a husband who has CF?







How many cycles did it take for you to have each of your 2 children?







When did he get MESA surgery?







How much money did you spend on MESA and IVF?<hr></blockquote>



Without going into two much detail, I have one child through one lucky chance at IVF. My husbands work has an awesome insurance plan and they covered at least 90%. I think it was about 10 grand and we paid the 10%. We went through lots to get there. I cant even remember what most of it is called. Where they take the sperm and implant it (I remember that wasnt very expensive) Then they decided I had endometriosis. I will tell you the best thing for me. We had the leader in IVF in a very large area taking care of us. I highly recomend the center for reproductive health in Cincinati. We never had any questions unanswered. They treated us and every patient with kid gloves. It was a great experience. Ask around, I am sure there is someone fabulous in your area. We were def. lucky to get pregnant on the first IVF round. I am very grateful. I make it sound so easy but as you know, It was a very long road. It all seems so trivial now that I have Kayla. At the time, it seemed so tiresome and bothersome, all the appts and the meds. Now I realize it was worth it. You see we had to go through that to get here. I wish you luck on your journey.<hr></blockquote>

How old were you when you had your child? what insurance do you have? If IVF is only 10k why don't more people try it, isn't 10k worth a child? If you can get a loan for a house that is 200k, can you get a loan for IVF?

 

[anonymous]

I don't get the 6 years of trying. If your husband had no vas def. ? It would be impossible for that work, right? I may be a bit ignorant as to how it all works, but wouldn't it be impossible.

 

[anonymous]

I don't get the 6 years of trying. If your husband had no vas def. ? It would be impossible for that work, right? I may be a bit ignorant as to how it all works, but wouldn't it be impossible.

 

[julie]

Katy,

To answer your questions, usually a person on fertility drugs can produce between 10-30 eggs. They retrieve those eggs (not all are always mature) and fertilize them with the sperm they get from the MESA or Non Surgical Sperm Aspiration. If your eggs fertilize well (and usually there is a less % of fertilization when the sperm is retrieved through other means that ejaculation) hopefully you will transfer 1-2 and then have some left over to freeze. When you do a Frozen transfer, you can choose to do a "natural" cycle with no medications or a cycle with some medicactions. A frozen transfer is only about $2,000-$3000 though. If you have nothing to freeze (like in our case), we will have to go through the whole IVF procedure again (meds, egg retrieval, sperm retrieval, fertilization, transfer...) if we want another baby.


I have a lot of info on my website, <a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.cysticfibrosismaleinfertility.com">www.cysticfibrosismaleinfertility.com</a>, as well as success stories from 3 other couples.

Rutgersnyy, you are right 10k isn't a lot to have the child you really desire. But the reality of the situation for my husband and I was that I am the only one working, I make about $27,000 a year (last year I took a second job and earned an extra $8000). Our rent was $2000 a month (you can't live cheaper than that in San Diego unless you are living in a cardboard box), we have 1 car payment, college tuition and book expenses, medications to pay for that aren't covered by my military insurance and we make to much for a 2 person household to qualify for assistance anymore.... Add that all up and you just simply don't have the $10,000 to fork over. Others may be better off financially than my husband and I, and yet others may be worse off. It doesn't change that want and desire for a child. But what's the sense in having a baby if you can't make your rent or car payment and have no money left over to buy food, diapers or clothes for the baby.

I think your question is a very good one... a real thinker. But in the scheme of things for many of us, $10,000 is a WHOLE LOT of money. I sure wish it wasn't.

 

[julie]

Katy,

To answer your questions, usually a person on fertility drugs can produce between 10-30 eggs. They retrieve those eggs (not all are always mature) and fertilize them with the sperm they get from the MESA or Non Surgical Sperm Aspiration. If your eggs fertilize well (and usually there is a less % of fertilization when the sperm is retrieved through other means that ejaculation) hopefully you will transfer 1-2 and then have some left over to freeze. When you do a Frozen transfer, you can choose to do a "natural" cycle with no medications or a cycle with some medicactions. A frozen transfer is only about $2,000-$3000 though. If you have nothing to freeze (like in our case), we will have to go through the whole IVF procedure again (meds, egg retrieval, sperm retrieval, fertilization, transfer...) if we want another baby.


I have a lot of info on my website, <a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.cysticfibrosismaleinfertility.com">www.cysticfibrosismaleinfertility.com</a>, as well as success stories from 3 other couples.

Rutgersnyy, you are right 10k isn't a lot to have the child you really desire. But the reality of the situation for my husband and I was that I am the only one working, I make about $27,000 a year (last year I took a second job and earned an extra $8000). Our rent was $2000 a month (you can't live cheaper than that in San Diego unless you are living in a cardboard box), we have 1 car payment, college tuition and book expenses, medications to pay for that aren't covered by my military insurance and we make to much for a 2 person household to qualify for assistance anymore.... Add that all up and you just simply don't have the $10,000 to fork over. Others may be better off financially than my husband and I, and yet others may be worse off. It doesn't change that want and desire for a child. But what's the sense in having a baby if you can't make your rent or car payment and have no money left over to buy food, diapers or clothes for the baby.

I think your question is a very good one... a real thinker. But in the scheme of things for many of us, $10,000 is a WHOLE LOT of money. I sure wish it wasn't.

 

[julie]

Anon at 8:34am,

aparently you didn't read my post in it's entirety.


<b>Sarabeth, I know how you feel-I really do. Before we found out my husband's CF is why we weren't getting pregnant</b>...<b>My husband and I, after 7 years together, 6 years of trying and 2.5 years of actively pursuing IVF.</b> the trying was before we found out that my husbands CF is why we weren't getting pregnant.....

 

[julie]

Anon at 8:34am,

aparently you didn't read my post in it's entirety.


<b>Sarabeth, I know how you feel-I really do. Before we found out my husband's CF is why we weren't getting pregnant</b>...<b>My husband and I, after 7 years together, 6 years of trying and 2.5 years of actively pursuing IVF.</b> the trying was before we found out that my husbands CF is why we weren't getting pregnant.....