Do you ever wonder?

Allie

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As I was driving along today, I was pondering something that has been on my mind for quite a long time. How is it that some people cope so well with things, and others can't. We've all known people who end up horribly screwed up trying to deal with the myriad complications of Cf, and people who seem to go throuhg it all rather unadultered. Or in my situation, I know of a woman who started dating seriously 3 months after her husband died, and is engaged now, a little over a year after his passing. Meanwhile, I still wear my wedding ring, find myself crying at stupid stupid things, and in general am not even close to ready to be 'on the market' I doubt I ever will be.

What makes people handle things so differently? Does anyone have any clue?
 
Allie,
I don't know that anyone will ever be able to answer that question. I handle CF much differently than my brother who is basically in denial about the whole thing because it hasn't effected his life the way it has mine. As for you and not dating when the other lady is I think it has to do with a myriad of things. Some people absolutely fear being alone and always have to have that type of someone in their lives. Others don't need that and just long for the person that they loved with all of their heart, mind and soul without needing to move on to someone else to fulfill that for them. At least right away. I know that if I were in your situation looking for someone else would be the farthest thing from my mind, but you never know what time will tell. I wish you the best!!

Emilee
 

Emily65Roses

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I've never understood this either. I don't have the slightest bit of answer for you. Generally the only CF things that really get to me is when something entirely new shows up. Like I didn't deal too well when I started regularly throwing up. Now that it's been more than a year, I barely notice. When I start coughing up pure blood (I've already got streaking), I imagine I'll get pissy. All in all, most of the time, I don't let it get to me.

But then I'll be watching a movie and cry like a baby at it. Or Mike will say something that catches me the wrong way (even when I *know* it's not a big deal) and it'll hit a nerve and I'll cry at it. It's weird, because a lot of people would think the CF stuff would be what I get emotional about, but usually if I cry over stupid stuff, it's stuff related to Mike. He's my main weak spot. Haha.
 

Faust

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Being able to cope has much to do with your upbringing, your environment while growing up, and if your role models (and especially parents/older brothers/sisters etc) while growing up were very tough. Atleast thats what I think. As i've said on another board, no matter how bad my life gets, there is ALWAYS someone else out there with a crappier life than me, and more than likely tons of people worse off than me. Next time you find yourself feeling despondent, think about all the good things you have in your life, and what you should be thankful for...Or just watch any of the millions of feed the children type charity ads that come on tv late at night, of all the starving, disease ridden, fly covered children in third world countries. While I find their plight very depressing, it also reminds me just how well I have it. The fact that I have all my limbs, my sight, only one disease, several wonderful family members and friends that love me, I can still look at a sunset/sunrise, I can still laugh and laugh with others who are close to me, my pets I can pet and look into their loving eyes...The list is nearly endless. While on the other hand in the negative department, I have about 3 or 4 things that I wish wasn't a part of my life. Thats a very good ratio if you ask me.


As for "being on the market after your spose dies", that's a personal decision. When you meet the right person and you feel your time is right, and you've mourned enough, you will probably start dating someone and not even know it (lets go do dinner, lets go see a movie, etc etc). I told my fiancee that when I die she needs to go and live the rest of her life with someone else who will love her as much as I love her now. She says she will never do that, but i'll be worm food, and she will need companionship, and it's human nature to eventually stop grieving and move on with others.
 

anonymous

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And yet some never do move on. I wonder if that's so unnatural after all. It's certainly the stuff of romance. When I think of romance and death and bad lungs, I think of Keats. And for every Keats, who died young, there is a Fanny Brawne, who did not. Fanny was Keats' betrothed. Here's what she wrote to Fanny Keats, his sister, just after his death in far-away Rome. You might find some of the sentiments familiar:

"I am patient, resigned, very resigned. I know my Keats is happy, I know my Keats is happy, happier a thousand times than he could have been here, for Fanny, you do not, you never can know how much he has suffered. So much that I do believe, were it in my power I would not bring him back. All that grieves me now is that I was not with him, and so near it as I was. . . . he at least was never deceived about his complaint, though the Doctors were ignorant and unfeeling enough to send him to that wretched country to die, for it is now known that his recovery was impossible before he left us, and he might have died here with so many friends to soothe him and me, me with him. All we have to console ourselves with is the great joy he felt that all his misfortunes were at an end."

Fanny Brawne waited twelve years and then married a regular guy named Lindon, had a bunch of kids, and lived to be 65. But she kept all of Keats' letter in secret, not wanting to offend her husband. By all accounts she never even mentioned Keats except to her children, again in secrecy, and her identity as Keats' lover never came out until years after her death. For all this, she has been maligned by Keats aficionados for 130 years. But what was she supposed to do? By keeping the letters, she remained faithful to his memory. But it was understandably not in her nature to be faithful to him as a man, at least not forever. She waited a long time, and then she began a new life, as I assume most people do. Others, however, possess a different nature and never do start again, remaining bound by whatever still abides in their hearts -- a thing deeper than mere memory. For them, I guess that is a kind of fulfillment. I'm not sure that either type copes better than the other. They just cope differently.

We can tell our lovers to move on after we're gone, and it might be a reasonable and even loving gesture. But the decision is never really ours, is it? And the consequences of it certainly aren't ours. Either way, the heart always seems to ache somehow, and we can't as a rule know which way a person ought to choose or when. That answer is beyond reason. I do know I'd rather be the one to go before rather than after, but that's the easiest choice. So I feel for you, Allie.

Q
 

anonymous

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I agree, we all handel things differently... I can handel anything once I get used to it... I hate change.. but once I am used to it.. I am fine..Usually my own health doesn't bring me down for to long.. but seeing the ppl I love suffer..KILLS ME.. I find myself moody and angry when I see someone I care about going through crap. I find that I am constantly wanting to fix them.. like right now..someone I love dearly is sick and I would do anything to be able to take his pain away.. but I am helpless.

Allie..I think that you are doing a great job in your journey of healing... you just do what you need to do to get you and your daughter through... We are here for you and support you one hundred zillion percent.. You have a destiny in your life.. and each day that you live you are fullfilling it.

I think I am like you in that it would take me a long time to get over losing someone I loved.. and I hope that you post on this board for years to come.. because many of us learn from you by watching your journey of healing...

Love
Jennifer
Jennifershope not signed it cause I am at work... and I don't remember my password...
 
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65rosessamurai

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Dear Allie,

It seems some people cope with things better than others because they either know how to burry it deep within, or to overcome it like a hurdle, and move on.
Yes, I agree, as some already indicated; personal experience, and surrounding influences will affect how you cope with things.

Personally, as a person who went through a divorce, it was in stages. At first, I must have spent the first 6 years still having love for the ex. As time went, and I started feeling less love in return, it was like going through a break up stage that boyfriend-girlfriend would experience. The final stage was that I could no longer feel anything for that person. For that, it was so easy for me to find the one I was searching for and had what traits the other one didn't, but what I was looking for.

For the person in your example, she may have been having problems with her spouse for it to be easier to find someone with the same or better qualities.

As my observation in your case, the bond of love between you and your husband Ry, seems so strong, that it is so much harder to let go. I know as a fact, you will never stop loving him, but I wish for you to get over the hurdle, and be able to cope with it, and so you can find peace in your life.

I indicated it once, I'll repeat it again, I can really empathize with you. Good luck, stay strong, and keep coming here whenever you feel the need. (Like what Jennifershope indicated, I also hope you will be around for years to come to teach us.)

Best Regards,
Fred
 

JazzysMom

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I wonder how the people who have advanced cases of CF compared to me deal with it. I wonder how they have the strength & persistance to carry on and not allow it to totally consume their entire being. How they try (honestly cant always succeed) to not let it tear apart their children or marriage or their mental sanity. I totally believe that much of it is our upbringing as well as our current influences. If my Mothers whole influence would be what guided me, I believe that although I would be strong I would be a bit more neurotic in my endevours. She is very emotional and lets those emotions get in her way too often. I take after her 100%. What has saved me is my husband. He has been by my side "guiding" me in the effort to not let my emotions speak all the time and to make decisions & choices with a more clear frame of mind. This has helped tremendously in handling different obstacles I have recently encountered with my CF as well as other non CF related issues in life. I have also learned not to "obsess" about the what ifs. I had to teach my daughter, when she had an anxiety attacks about me going into the hospital, that we can do our best to keep me healthy, but we cant control everything. Sometimes what we want least is what we have to do most. Of course following my own advice is a lot harder than giving it> LOL >The point to my whole ramble is that everyone is different, handles things differently and make choices about the same topics according to them. There is no easy solution as well all know. Allie.....just because the woman you know started dating so quickly doesnt mean its the correct solution for her & unless you are ready for it..... it most certainly isnt for you. Follow your heart......I think your continued connection to Ry will let you know when its time to move onto the next stage of healing!
 

Allie

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I had forgotten all about Fanny Brawne, and I completely relate to what she said, save the fact that I was there when Ry passed. I don't think I'd be able to forgive myself if I hadn't been. I wouldn't ask for Ry back unless they could bring him back healthy and whole.

This wasn't supposed to all be make Allie feel better time *is embarrassed* , sorry if it came across that way. I just have NO idea what makes some people so able to move on, and some of us stuck in neutral. At this point in my life, I can't see myself remarrying, especially when I forget to mark anything other than married on all those stupid forms. Maybe my parents did it to me lol. No one in my recent family has dealt with being a widow so young. I'm a young/old woman lol.

It's interesting to see so many ideas on the topic though. Sean, Ry was the same way as you. as he put it " Bring a date to the funeral". But I think it was an impossible task he asked me to do. And he can't tell me what to do anymore lol. So you can hope your fiancee will move on, but maybe not expect her to. Love is a tough bond to break.
 

Lilith

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Rick has told me over and over again that he probably won't move on after my passing, even though I've told him time and time again that it's okay. Maybe (and I'm not trying to be cruel here) when someone loses a loved one like that, they have a need to immediately fill that void to ease the pain because it's too much for them. That's the only explaination I can give. I don't think I could ever really fill that void if I lost Rick, but it's different for everyone. Everyone has their own way of dealing with their emotions. I personally don't approve of moving on so quickly. I find it disrespectful and somewhat selfish, but that's just my take on it.
 

Faust

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Heh my mom has a female friend that while her husband was dying of cancer in the hospital, she was out screwing around on the dude. Gotta love people like that.
 

anonymous

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I am a 26 year old female and never got in any serious relationships up until my current one. I guess me feeling was if i couldn't deal with what i have why bring anyone else into it. From dating the guy i am with now, he has showed me a lot more than i can ever imagine. My problem is that i don't know what the future will hold...and i don't know why i am fixated on that. I really don't know how to get out of my morbid mindset. Any suggestions????
Caitlin
 

anonymous

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I am a 26 year old female and never got in any serious relationships up until my current one. I guess me feeling was if i couldn't deal with what i have why bring anyone else into it. From dating the guy i am with now, he has showed me a lot more than i can ever imagine. My problem is that i don't know what the future will hold...and i don't know why i am fixated on that. I really don't know how to get out of my morbid mindset. Any suggestions????
Caitlin
 
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