Does the sweat chloride number tell you anything?

NYCLawGirl

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tough question. generally i would agree with the posters above and say that sweat chloride numbers are not predictive. and certainly i would say that it isn't conclusive in any case. each individual with CF is different and there's a LOT that goes into determining outcome.
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<br />all that said, i will go out on a limb here and say that very generally speaking, young children with higher sweat chloride levels who are diagnosed as infants tend to have more severe presentation than people who are diagnosed as adults, who not coincidentally also tend to have lower (often normal) sweat chloride levels. for example, the average age of needing transplant is significantly younger for CFers diagnosed as infants vs. adult diagnosis (according to the data released by my tx center, anyway). keep in mind that back when i was diagnosed (28 years ago) sweat chloride was the only way to diagnose CF, since the gene wasn't discovered until '89. so among my generation of CF adults, higher sweat chloride is the primary differentiation between people who were diagnosed as infants and those diagnosed as adults. and we do tend to have a more severe presentation.
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<br />but of course that just means that people with chloride levels high enough to clearly indicate CF might have a more severe presentation than those with normal levels. it doesn't say anything about whether a number of 100 means a less severe presentation than, say, 160. however, since it is the chloride transfer defect that causes the build up of thick mucus, it would make sense to say that the higher the number, the worse off the transfer and thus the higher the possibility of severe symptoms.
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<br />honestly though, i wouldn't try to predict the future based on a number, esp. since sweat chloride levels often change with age.
 

Gnome

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My son's sweat test was extremely high 130 but I often wonder if the result was because he hadn't had a bath in 10 days. Bad I hadn't washed my kid in 10 days but he was a newborn and I wasn't really comfortable with doing baths. I would of expected my son's numbers to be high but not that high. We do have classic CF but no real lung problems at 5 years old.
 

Gnome

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My son's sweat test was extremely high 130 but I often wonder if the result was because he hadn't had a bath in 10 days. Bad I hadn't washed my kid in 10 days but he was a newborn and I wasn't really comfortable with doing baths. I would of expected my son's numbers to be high but not that high. We do have classic CF but no real lung problems at 5 years old.
 

Gnome

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My son's sweat test was extremely high 130 but I often wonder if the result was because he hadn't had a bath in 10 days. Bad I hadn't washed my kid in 10 days but he was a newborn and I wasn't really comfortable with doing baths. I would of expected my son's numbers to be high but not that high. We do have classic CF but no real lung problems at 5 years old.
 

zoe4life

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I have to go out on the same limb as Piper on this one....I agree totally with her...it just seems to make sense.
Glad to see you around Piper!! I love hearing how well you are doing!! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">
 

zoe4life

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I have to go out on the same limb as Piper on this one....I agree totally with her...it just seems to make sense.
Glad to see you around Piper!! I love hearing how well you are doing!! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">
 

zoe4life

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I have to go out on the same limb as Piper on this one....I agree totally with her...it just seems to make sense.
<br />Glad to see you around Piper!! I love hearing how well you are doing!! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">
 
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SarahProcter

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My daughter's CF doctor has been confusing on this point. On the one hand, he carefully explained to us that the # of the sweat test was not predictive of the course of the disease, we know she has two CFTR mutations and therefore she has CF, etc. On the other hand, he has frequently cited her relatively low sweat test # as one of the reasons (in conjunction with her specific mutations) that he suspects that she may have either an extremely mild case of CF disease symptoms, an extremely delayed presentation of CF, and/or eventually be reclassified as having CFTR Related Metabolic Disorder rather than Cystic Fibrosis. So, yeah, mixed messages there.

But then, her sweat test numbers are very borderline - her numbers have been 41, 40, and 37 as we retested as she got older. Those numbers (in conjunction with the fact that she is pancreatic sufficient) mean that, like Piper said, in an earlier era without genetic screening, she most likely would have not been diagnosed as having CF at all.
 
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SarahProcter

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My daughter's CF doctor has been confusing on this point. On the one hand, he carefully explained to us that the # of the sweat test was not predictive of the course of the disease, we know she has two CFTR mutations and therefore she has CF, etc. On the other hand, he has frequently cited her relatively low sweat test # as one of the reasons (in conjunction with her specific mutations) that he suspects that she may have either an extremely mild case of CF disease symptoms, an extremely delayed presentation of CF, and/or eventually be reclassified as having CFTR Related Metabolic Disorder rather than Cystic Fibrosis. So, yeah, mixed messages there.

But then, her sweat test numbers are very borderline - her numbers have been 41, 40, and 37 as we retested as she got older. Those numbers (in conjunction with the fact that she is pancreatic sufficient) mean that, like Piper said, in an earlier era without genetic screening, she most likely would have not been diagnosed as having CF at all.
 
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SarahProcter

Guest
My daughter's CF doctor has been confusing on this point. On the one hand, he carefully explained to us that the # of the sweat test was not predictive of the course of the disease, we know she has two CFTR mutations and therefore she has CF, etc. On the other hand, he has frequently cited her relatively low sweat test # as one of the reasons (in conjunction with her specific mutations) that he suspects that she may have either an extremely mild case of CF disease symptoms, an extremely delayed presentation of CF, and/or eventually be reclassified as having CFTR Related Metabolic Disorder rather than Cystic Fibrosis. So, yeah, mixed messages there.
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<br />But then, her sweat test numbers are very borderline - her numbers have been 41, 40, and 37 as we retested as she got older. Those numbers (in conjunction with the fact that she is pancreatic sufficient) mean that, like Piper said, in an earlier era without genetic screening, she most likely would have not been diagnosed as having CF at all.
 

kitomd21

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My understanding is that sweat chloride tests do not indicate the severity or progression of CF.

See: <a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15274098
">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15274098
</a>
Congratulations on your little one - you'll find answers and support to all of your questions on this site!
 

kitomd21

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My understanding is that sweat chloride tests do not indicate the severity or progression of CF.

See: <a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15274098
">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15274098
</a>
Congratulations on your little one - you'll find answers and support to all of your questions on this site!
 

kitomd21

New member
My understanding is that sweat chloride tests do not indicate the severity or progression of CF.
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<br />See: <a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15274098
">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15274098
</a><br />
<br />Congratulations on your little one - you'll find answers and support to all of your questions on this site!
 
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