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NoExcuses

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Great! Thanks you guys.

I have found SourceCF, and subdivision of PARI.

Apparently the eFlow is approved by the FDA in the US for use with only CF patients. This is why the eFlow doesn't appear on the US PARI website.

There are only 3 pharmacies in the US that cary the eFlow. Some insurances do cover the eFlow.

PARI people cannot talk about in vitro or in vivo studies that have been done with the eFlow and specific drugs. The pharmacists who work at the 3 pharmacies that cary the eFlow can, however. Apparently these are FDA rules.

So i will get in touch with this special pharmacist who apparently can talk to me about studies that have been done with the eFlow. I have a feeling they aren't very extensive. But I bet many studies have been performed overseas.

So I'll keep you all posted on what I come across. I'm shocked, once again, that my doc didn't inform me that this was a possibility for treatment.
 
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CowTown

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Hey There Amy,

Since you posted this, I just looked up the eflow for a brief reading. From what I could see, the sole purpose for this nebulizer's growing reputation is that it delivers meds more efficiently and quicker. Is that all, or is there somthing else to it? I'm wondering why the price difference is so huge compared to a Pari Pro Neb Ultra. It's about $1,700 more then the Pro Nebs. Do you know why its such a hot item?

If it's so hot, why <b>aren't</b> doctors recommending it? I wonder too.
 
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CowTown

New member
Hey There Amy,

Since you posted this, I just looked up the eflow for a brief reading. From what I could see, the sole purpose for this nebulizer's growing reputation is that it delivers meds more efficiently and quicker. Is that all, or is there somthing else to it? I'm wondering why the price difference is so huge compared to a Pari Pro Neb Ultra. It's about $1,700 more then the Pro Nebs. Do you know why its such a hot item?

If it's so hot, why <b>aren't</b> doctors recommending it? I wonder too.
 
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CowTown

New member
Hey There Amy,

Since you posted this, I just looked up the eflow for a brief reading. From what I could see, the sole purpose for this nebulizer's growing reputation is that it delivers meds more efficiently and quicker. Is that all, or is there somthing else to it? I'm wondering why the price difference is so huge compared to a Pari Pro Neb Ultra. It's about $1,700 more then the Pro Nebs. Do you know why its such a hot item?

If it's so hot, why <b>aren't</b> doctors recommending it? I wonder too.
 
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Jem

New member
Thanks for looking into this Amy. Anything that would cut down neb time would be a blessing.
 
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Jem

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Thanks for looking into this Amy. Anything that would cut down neb time would be a blessing.
 
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Jem

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Thanks for looking into this Amy. Anything that would cut down neb time would be a blessing.
 
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Bumblebee

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It expensive because it is A LOT more complex than a normal
nebuliser.  With the eflow you do not need a compressor - it
doesn't not work on pressurised air dispersing up the liquid into a
gaseous type form (which isn't very efficient as many particles in
the "gas" are too big to get absorbed by the lungs in the
small airways (where it is most needed).  The eflow however is
a metal plate with lots of tiny hole in it which when a current
goes through the plate breaks up the liquid behind it producing a
cloud of the medicine.  More of the particles are the right
size to reach the small airways so it is a lot more efficient (and
hence less medicine is actually needed to deliver the right dose).
 Becuase i compressor is not used and just an electirc current
it is completely silent.  It delivers about 1ml of liquid per
minute (hence TOBI is about 5 mins/ pulmozyme about 2 and a half
mins etc).<br>
Sorry i'm not very good at explaining but with all this tecnology
you can see why it is more expensive than your average plastic
neb<br>
xxxxxx
 
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Bumblebee

New member
It expensive because it is A LOT more complex than a normal
nebuliser.  With the eflow you do not need a compressor - it
doesn't not work on pressurised air dispersing up the liquid into a
gaseous type form (which isn't very efficient as many particles in
the "gas" are too big to get absorbed by the lungs in the
small airways (where it is most needed).  The eflow however is
a metal plate with lots of tiny hole in it which when a current
goes through the plate breaks up the liquid behind it producing a
cloud of the medicine.  More of the particles are the right
size to reach the small airways so it is a lot more efficient (and
hence less medicine is actually needed to deliver the right dose).
 Becuase i compressor is not used and just an electirc current
it is completely silent.  It delivers about 1ml of liquid per
minute (hence TOBI is about 5 mins/ pulmozyme about 2 and a half
mins etc).<br>
Sorry i'm not very good at explaining but with all this tecnology
you can see why it is more expensive than your average plastic
neb<br>
xxxxxx
 
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Bumblebee

New member
It expensive because it is A LOT more complex than a normal
nebuliser.  With the eflow you do not need a compressor - it
doesn't not work on pressurised air dispersing up the liquid into a
gaseous type form (which isn't very efficient as many particles in
the "gas" are too big to get absorbed by the lungs in the
small airways (where it is most needed).  The eflow however is
a metal plate with lots of tiny hole in it which when a current
goes through the plate breaks up the liquid behind it producing a
cloud of the medicine.  More of the particles are the right
size to reach the small airways so it is a lot more efficient (and
hence less medicine is actually needed to deliver the right dose).
 Becuase i compressor is not used and just an electirc current
it is completely silent.  It delivers about 1ml of liquid per
minute (hence TOBI is about 5 mins/ pulmozyme about 2 and a half
mins etc).<br>
Sorry i'm not very good at explaining but with all this tecnology
you can see why it is more expensive than your average plastic
neb<br>
xxxxxx
 
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john81john

New member
Hi look at this (my) post..hope it helps

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://forums.cysticfibrosis.com/messageview.cfm?catid=5&threadid=9458&highlight_key=y&keyword1=eflow%20rapid">about eflow rapid and other devices</a>
 
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john81john

New member
Hi look at this (my) post..hope it helps

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://forums.cysticfibrosis.com/messageview.cfm?catid=5&threadid=9458&highlight_key=y&keyword1=eflow%20rapid">about eflow rapid and other devices</a>
 
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john81john

New member
Hi look at this (my) post..hope it helps

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://forums.cysticfibrosis.com/messageview.cfm?catid=5&threadid=9458&highlight_key=y&keyword1=eflow%20rapid">about eflow rapid and other devices</a>
 
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lilmac7

New member
I've been interested in these nebulizers for sometime now, and searching I found this one <a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://omrondistributor.com/Pages/omron_nebulizer_neu22.shtml">http://omrondistributor.com/Pa..._nebulizer_neu22.shtml</a> which from what I've read on the e-flow and this they use the same technology and have very close specs of operation but obviously this one is a hell of alot cheaper and easier to get hold of. It may be an alternative, only thing is obviously it wasn't used in studies and hyped up like the Pari e-flow, but that doesn't mean it's inferior either.
 
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lilmac7

New member
I've been interested in these nebulizers for sometime now, and searching I found this one <a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://omrondistributor.com/Pages/omron_nebulizer_neu22.shtml">http://omrondistributor.com/Pa..._nebulizer_neu22.shtml</a> which from what I've read on the e-flow and this they use the same technology and have very close specs of operation but obviously this one is a hell of alot cheaper and easier to get hold of. It may be an alternative, only thing is obviously it wasn't used in studies and hyped up like the Pari e-flow, but that doesn't mean it's inferior either.
 
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lilmac7

New member
I've been interested in these nebulizers for sometime now, and searching I found this one <a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://omrondistributor.com/Pages/omron_nebulizer_neu22.shtml">http://omrondistributor.com/Pa..._nebulizer_neu22.shtml</a> which from what I've read on the e-flow and this they use the same technology and have very close specs of operation but obviously this one is a hell of alot cheaper and easier to get hold of. It may be an alternative, only thing is obviously it wasn't used in studies and hyped up like the Pari e-flow, but that doesn't mean it's inferior either.
 
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Tom

New member
We received the device for no charge. The company (IV Solutions) stated that they would call us when the device needed to be returned. It has been a year and they have not asked for it back yet.
 
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