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There are the ongoing Isis trials for little ones, and of course a lot of formal data for teens/adults, but little real data for school-age kids and hypersal. So when starting it, Emily's dr presented to me our 'clinic report' for those who use it. Average increase in fev1 doesn't sound amazingly impressive- only about 4%, but he stressed that included everyone, including kids who didn't tolerate it amazingly well; that many who liked it a lot increased by upwards of 8% or so. And that what he felt was more significant than a smallish increase in fev1 was a decrease in exacerbations and need for abx- so kids were staying healthier for longer periods of time. He didn't mention anything about change in what bugs kids cultured at all before or after, but I agree that salt does have antimicrobial properties and can only help in that aspect and if kids are having fewer exacerbations, it must be helping there somehow. And goodness- this stuff has nothing toxic- nothing that can affect the liver, or brain, or kidneys... nothing to interact with other meds. It's cheap. What's there to lose?
The other dr I like there a lot was talking to me about both hypersal and Pulmozyme and explained how well he thinks they work together (not at the same time of course!); that he likes Pulmozyme for it's long-lasting effect in the lung, Hypersal is dramatic for bringing up a lot but has a shorter-acting effect ...therefore likes to see his patients on both if possible for the different ways they attack the mucus.
The other dr I like there a lot was talking to me about both hypersal and Pulmozyme and explained how well he thinks they work together (not at the same time of course!); that he likes Pulmozyme for it's long-lasting effect in the lung, Hypersal is dramatic for bringing up a lot but has a shorter-acting effect ...therefore likes to see his patients on both if possible for the different ways they attack the mucus.
There are the ongoing Isis trials for little ones, and of course a lot of formal data for teens/adults, but little real data for school-age kids and hypersal. So when starting it, Emily's dr presented to me our 'clinic report' for those who use it. Average increase in fev1 doesn't sound amazingly impressive- only about 4%, but he stressed that included everyone, including kids who didn't tolerate it amazingly well; that many who liked it a lot increased by upwards of 8% or so. And that what he felt was more significant than a smallish increase in fev1 was a decrease in exacerbations and need for abx- so kids were staying healthier for longer periods of time. He didn't mention anything about change in what bugs kids cultured at all before or after, but I agree that salt does have antimicrobial properties and can only help in that aspect and if kids are having fewer exacerbations, it must be helping there somehow. And goodness- this stuff has nothing toxic- nothing that can affect the liver, or brain, or kidneys... nothing to interact with other meds. It's cheap. What's there to lose?
The other dr I like there a lot was talking to me about both hypersal and Pulmozyme and explained how well he thinks they work together (not at the same time of course!); that he likes Pulmozyme for it's long-lasting effect in the lung, Hypersal is dramatic for bringing up a lot but has a shorter-acting effect ...therefore likes to see his patients on both if possible for the different ways they attack the mucus.
The other dr I like there a lot was talking to me about both hypersal and Pulmozyme and explained how well he thinks they work together (not at the same time of course!); that he likes Pulmozyme for it's long-lasting effect in the lung, Hypersal is dramatic for bringing up a lot but has a shorter-acting effect ...therefore likes to see his patients on both if possible for the different ways they attack the mucus.
There are the ongoing Isis trials for little ones, and of course a lot of formal data for teens/adults, but little real data for school-age kids and hypersal. So when starting it, Emily's dr presented to me our 'clinic report' for those who use it. Average increase in fev1 doesn't sound amazingly impressive- only about 4%, but he stressed that included everyone, including kids who didn't tolerate it amazingly well; that many who liked it a lot increased by upwards of 8% or so. And that what he felt was more significant than a smallish increase in fev1 was a decrease in exacerbations and need for abx- so kids were staying healthier for longer periods of time. He didn't mention anything about change in what bugs kids cultured at all before or after, but I agree that salt does have antimicrobial properties and can only help in that aspect and if kids are having fewer exacerbations, it must be helping there somehow. And goodness- this stuff has nothing toxic- nothing that can affect the liver, or brain, or kidneys... nothing to interact with other meds. It's cheap. What's there to lose?
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<br />The other dr I like there a lot was talking to me about both hypersal and Pulmozyme and explained how well he thinks they work together (not at the same time of course!); that he likes Pulmozyme for it's long-lasting effect in the lung, Hypersal is dramatic for bringing up a lot but has a shorter-acting effect ...therefore likes to see his patients on both if possible for the different ways they attack the mucus.
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<br />The other dr I like there a lot was talking to me about both hypersal and Pulmozyme and explained how well he thinks they work together (not at the same time of course!); that he likes Pulmozyme for it's long-lasting effect in the lung, Hypersal is dramatic for bringing up a lot but has a shorter-acting effect ...therefore likes to see his patients on both if possible for the different ways they attack the mucus.
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edan
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Let me just say that I LOVE the way this thread is going! FOr those on hrs, do you all do the brOnchodialator first? I wasn' t before but am reconsidering in light of this new culture. I always wondered if because she was presenting so mildly that all the medicines were doing more harm than good. I am now reconsidering now in light of the staph.
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edan
Guest
Let me just say that I LOVE the way this thread is going! FOr those on hrs, do you all do the brOnchodialator first? I wasn' t before but am reconsidering in light of this new culture. I always wondered if because she was presenting so mildly that all the medicines were doing more harm than good. I am now reconsidering now in light of the staph.
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edan
Guest
Let me just say that I LOVE the way this thread is going! FOr those on hrs, do you all do the brOnchodialator first? I wasn' t before but am reconsidering in light of this new culture. I always wondered if because she was presenting so mildly that all the medicines were doing more harm than good. I am now reconsidering now in light of the staph.
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TonyaH
Guest
Andrew does two puffs of albuterol before hts.
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TonyaH
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Andrew does two puffs of albuterol before hts.
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TonyaH
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Andrew does two puffs of albuterol before hts.
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edan
Guest
Hi Ennio. This one started in the family section but is now in the adults section.
Thanks!!
Thanks!!
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edan
Guest
Hi Ennio. This one started in the family section but is now in the adults section.
Thanks!!
Thanks!!
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edan
Guest
Hi Ennio. This one started in the family section but is now in the adults section.
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<br />Thanks!!
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<br />Thanks!!
ehtansky21
New member
Unlike most people, we do not do the bronchodilator. The first time the boys tried HTS, they did have that dry, irritating cough. So I diluted it to half HTS and half sterile saline solution. That completely eliminated the irritating cough. I very slowly added more HTS then sterile saline and we are now giving them the whole amount of HTS without a bronchodilator and no irritating cough.
As a side note, this was never recommended by the docs. The boys are at a point where they are very healthy lungwise and thus I do not want to add medication into their regime unless it proves necessary. We will add the bronchodilator, if it seems there is mucus in their lungs that is not coming out.
blessings,
missa
As a side note, this was never recommended by the docs. The boys are at a point where they are very healthy lungwise and thus I do not want to add medication into their regime unless it proves necessary. We will add the bronchodilator, if it seems there is mucus in their lungs that is not coming out.
blessings,
missa
ehtansky21
New member
Unlike most people, we do not do the bronchodilator. The first time the boys tried HTS, they did have that dry, irritating cough. So I diluted it to half HTS and half sterile saline solution. That completely eliminated the irritating cough. I very slowly added more HTS then sterile saline and we are now giving them the whole amount of HTS without a bronchodilator and no irritating cough.
As a side note, this was never recommended by the docs. The boys are at a point where they are very healthy lungwise and thus I do not want to add medication into their regime unless it proves necessary. We will add the bronchodilator, if it seems there is mucus in their lungs that is not coming out.
blessings,
missa
As a side note, this was never recommended by the docs. The boys are at a point where they are very healthy lungwise and thus I do not want to add medication into their regime unless it proves necessary. We will add the bronchodilator, if it seems there is mucus in their lungs that is not coming out.
blessings,
missa