gluconutrients

cdale613

New member
I would like to see some large sample, double-blind placebo controlled studies please - and you can spare me the BS about it being unethical to "deny" treatment to some participants. After that, I'll try anything - just back it up.

Chris

25 w/CF
 

cdale613

New member
I would like to see some large sample, double-blind placebo controlled studies please - and you can spare me the BS about it being unethical to "deny" treatment to some participants. After that, I'll try anything - just back it up.

Chris

25 w/CF
 

anonymous

New member
I am 25 years old with cf. I have been trying ambrotose (glyconutrients) for about 3 weeks. I've had some improvement, most in the area of nutrition. I've really started to gain weight, which I have never done before. I'm taking three teaspoons a day, but I may increase it a bit. Also, it has helped my blood sugar. It's all natural and I don't think it would hurt to try it. I will probably test it for six months to see if I continue to improve.
 

anonymous

New member
I am 25 years old with cf. I have been trying ambrotose (glyconutrients) for about 3 weeks. I've had some improvement, most in the area of nutrition. I've really started to gain weight, which I have never done before. I'm taking three teaspoons a day, but I may increase it a bit. Also, it has helped my blood sugar. It's all natural and I don't think it would hurt to try it. I will probably test it for six months to see if I continue to improve.
 

anonymous

New member
I have tried manatech the whole nine gamut and felt more tired than normal. Before taking manantech I was always on some good supplements daily. Eating healthy all the time and exercise. I found no benefit to manantech and was curious as to why some health care practioners do not advocate it either. These health care practioners love to sell vitamins so why not manantech? I think manantech is great for those people who have not had a healthy diet and who never really took their supplements seriously. Maybe some people like me are allergic to something in the manantech's product. I can only speak from personal experience. I am thrilled for the folks who are doing well on it and God Bless you all. Risa
 

anonymous

New member
I have tried manatech the whole nine gamut and felt more tired than normal. Before taking manantech I was always on some good supplements daily. Eating healthy all the time and exercise. I found no benefit to manantech and was curious as to why some health care practioners do not advocate it either. These health care practioners love to sell vitamins so why not manantech? I think manantech is great for those people who have not had a healthy diet and who never really took their supplements seriously. Maybe some people like me are allergic to something in the manantech's product. I can only speak from personal experience. I am thrilled for the folks who are doing well on it and God Bless you all. Risa
 

DragonSlaveII

New member
You're supposed to look for Fructose Compounding. That's how all the information is stored on this vitamin system.

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.enviroalternatives.com/foodsupplanswers.html
">http://www.enviroalternatives....pplanswers.html
</a>
<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.freelists.org/archives/tri-med/02-2005/msg00492.html
">http://www.freelists.org/archi...5/msg00492.html
</a>
<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://yourhealthandmine.net/vit4bfructosecompounding.htm">http://yourhealthandmine.net/v...ructosecompounding.htm</a>


These sites explains how fructose compounding works. The basics are that: for vitamins to work, they have to be:

balanced (too much vitamin A can kill you, too little will make you susceptible to colds)

natural (Kodak sells a petroleum derived product to most of the vitamin industry--it is used as a vitamin coating--hence why most One-A-Days wind up whole, undigested, in your septic system. Also, synthetic vitamins aren't necessarily to be good for you.)

guaranteed (Melaleuca will let you try them for 3 months, then get your money back if it doesn't meet your expectations. (which is how long it takes for a particular vitamin to really prove it's worth--though some people show improvement within one dose, like my father: most likely because he had already began flooding his system with carrot juice, and changing his diet. My first reaction was to want to sleep for the first day or so...then I was hyper. I can honestly say that this is the first time in my adult life that I've slept soundly at night. Remember, everyone is different, and their reaction won't be exactly the same. (The sites above will tell you of their own experiences.))

tested (on humans, since they have to take them)

ensures mineral absorption (minerals are bonded to the fructose--a sugar that is not insulin dependent, and easily makes it through your cell membranes)


Also, you don't have to join in the "pyramid scheme" to buy the vitamins. It's just cheaper (they give a discout to full members, as well as through "cost-per use", and getting money back from a percentage of the sales from those you recommended to it) to join that way. I personally wouldn't enroll anyone as just a customer, for that reason alone. As for pyramid schemes, Mary Kay is a pyramid scheme, but people make money off it all the time (not always an excessive amount). The reason why some pyramid schemes work is because if it's a highly consumable product: vitamins, makeup, cleaners,food, hygiene products. If it's something that really works, and you're going to buy it, and often going to recommend it for other people, then the possible threat of problems with pyramid schemes becomes, often quite negligible.

Melaleuca is obsessed with the thought of natural products.

Now, if they'd help with Cystic Fibrosis, I'm not sure of there's an added benefit of taking these vitamins for someone with this disease, any more than what they do for me. I don't have the disease to test it on me. But I do know that natural as possible household products would overall improve the air quality of the environment in the home, and that's invaluable:

The relationship of Agent Orange and Lysol is just one:
<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.whale.to/a/orange.html
">http://www.whale.to/a/orange.html
</a>

Mom's hairdresser almost killed herself by using Lysol (reason for use: severely allergic to mold). So many compounds in household cleaners are outright toxic (the ones listed on the container) or in larger amounts than is in the compounds, is toxic. Anything with phosphates is creating the dead zone in the Gulf of Mexico--that means the leading dishwasher detergent, and many Tide products.

The only time I've not had respiratory issues was when I was a child, in a house full of Melaleuca products. I joined in on their "pyramid scheme"--btw, it's not quite the same, since they don't involve breakaways, like the others do. I'm doing it to regain the health I once had. It might do the same for you.
 

DragonSlaveII

New member
You're supposed to look for Fructose Compounding. That's how all the information is stored on this vitamin system.

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.enviroalternatives.com/foodsupplanswers.html
">http://www.enviroalternatives....pplanswers.html
</a>
<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.freelists.org/archives/tri-med/02-2005/msg00492.html
">http://www.freelists.org/archi...5/msg00492.html
</a>
<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://yourhealthandmine.net/vit4bfructosecompounding.htm">http://yourhealthandmine.net/v...ructosecompounding.htm</a>


These sites explains how fructose compounding works. The basics are that: for vitamins to work, they have to be:

balanced (too much vitamin A can kill you, too little will make you susceptible to colds)

natural (Kodak sells a petroleum derived product to most of the vitamin industry--it is used as a vitamin coating--hence why most One-A-Days wind up whole, undigested, in your septic system. Also, synthetic vitamins aren't necessarily to be good for you.)

guaranteed (Melaleuca will let you try them for 3 months, then get your money back if it doesn't meet your expectations. (which is how long it takes for a particular vitamin to really prove it's worth--though some people show improvement within one dose, like my father: most likely because he had already began flooding his system with carrot juice, and changing his diet. My first reaction was to want to sleep for the first day or so...then I was hyper. I can honestly say that this is the first time in my adult life that I've slept soundly at night. Remember, everyone is different, and their reaction won't be exactly the same. (The sites above will tell you of their own experiences.))

tested (on humans, since they have to take them)

ensures mineral absorption (minerals are bonded to the fructose--a sugar that is not insulin dependent, and easily makes it through your cell membranes)


Also, you don't have to join in the "pyramid scheme" to buy the vitamins. It's just cheaper (they give a discout to full members, as well as through "cost-per use", and getting money back from a percentage of the sales from those you recommended to it) to join that way. I personally wouldn't enroll anyone as just a customer, for that reason alone. As for pyramid schemes, Mary Kay is a pyramid scheme, but people make money off it all the time (not always an excessive amount). The reason why some pyramid schemes work is because if it's a highly consumable product: vitamins, makeup, cleaners,food, hygiene products. If it's something that really works, and you're going to buy it, and often going to recommend it for other people, then the possible threat of problems with pyramid schemes becomes, often quite negligible.

Melaleuca is obsessed with the thought of natural products.

Now, if they'd help with Cystic Fibrosis, I'm not sure of there's an added benefit of taking these vitamins for someone with this disease, any more than what they do for me. I don't have the disease to test it on me. But I do know that natural as possible household products would overall improve the air quality of the environment in the home, and that's invaluable:

The relationship of Agent Orange and Lysol is just one:
<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.whale.to/a/orange.html
">http://www.whale.to/a/orange.html
</a>

Mom's hairdresser almost killed herself by using Lysol (reason for use: severely allergic to mold). So many compounds in household cleaners are outright toxic (the ones listed on the container) or in larger amounts than is in the compounds, is toxic. Anything with phosphates is creating the dead zone in the Gulf of Mexico--that means the leading dishwasher detergent, and many Tide products.

The only time I've not had respiratory issues was when I was a child, in a house full of Melaleuca products. I joined in on their "pyramid scheme"--btw, it's not quite the same, since they don't involve breakaways, like the others do. I'm doing it to regain the health I once had. It might do the same for you.
 

DragonSlaveII

New member
You're supposed to look for Fructose Compounding. That's how all the information is stored on this vitamin system.

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.enviroalternatives.com/foodsupplanswers.html
">http://www.enviroalternatives....pplanswers.html
</a>
<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.freelists.org/archives/tri-med/02-2005/msg00492.html
">http://www.freelists.org/archi...5/msg00492.html
</a>
<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://yourhealthandmine.net/vit4bfructosecompounding.htm">http://yourhealthandmine.net/v...ructosecompounding.htm</a>


These sites explains how fructose compounding works. The basics are that: for vitamins to work, they have to be:

balanced (too much vitamin A can kill you, too little will make you susceptible to colds)

natural (Kodak sells a petroleum derived product to most of the vitamin industry--it is used as a vitamin coating--hence why most One-A-Days wind up whole, undigested, in your septic system. Also, synthetic vitamins aren't necessarily to be good for you.)

guaranteed (Melaleuca will let you try them for 3 months, then get your money back if it doesn't meet your expectations. (which is how long it takes for a particular vitamin to really prove it's worth--though some people show improvement within one dose, like my father: most likely because he had already began flooding his system with carrot juice, and changing his diet. My first reaction was to want to sleep for the first day or so...then I was hyper. I can honestly say that this is the first time in my adult life that I've slept soundly at night. Remember, everyone is different, and their reaction won't be exactly the same. (The sites above will tell you of their own experiences.))

tested (on humans, since they have to take them)

ensures mineral absorption (minerals are bonded to the fructose--a sugar that is not insulin dependent, and easily makes it through your cell membranes)


Also, you don't have to join in the "pyramid scheme" to buy the vitamins. It's just cheaper (they give a discout to full members, as well as through "cost-per use", and getting money back from a percentage of the sales from those you recommended to it) to join that way. I personally wouldn't enroll anyone as just a customer, for that reason alone. As for pyramid schemes, Mary Kay is a pyramid scheme, but people make money off it all the time (not always an excessive amount). The reason why some pyramid schemes work is because if it's a highly consumable product: vitamins, makeup, cleaners,food, hygiene products. If it's something that really works, and you're going to buy it, and often going to recommend it for other people, then the possible threat of problems with pyramid schemes becomes, often quite negligible.

Melaleuca is obsessed with the thought of natural products.

Now, if they'd help with Cystic Fibrosis, I'm not sure of there's an added benefit of taking these vitamins for someone with this disease, any more than what they do for me. I don't have the disease to test it on me. But I do know that natural as possible household products would overall improve the air quality of the environment in the home, and that's invaluable:

The relationship of Agent Orange and Lysol is just one:
<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.whale.to/a/orange.html
">http://www.whale.to/a/orange.html
</a>

Mom's hairdresser almost killed herself by using Lysol (reason for use: severely allergic to mold). So many compounds in household cleaners are outright toxic (the ones listed on the container) or in larger amounts than is in the compounds, is toxic. Anything with phosphates is creating the dead zone in the Gulf of Mexico--that means the leading dishwasher detergent, and many Tide products.

The only time I've not had respiratory issues was when I was a child, in a house full of Melaleuca products. I joined in on their "pyramid scheme"--btw, it's not quite the same, since they don't involve breakaways, like the others do. I'm doing it to regain the health I once had. It might do the same for you.
 

DragonSlaveII

New member
You're supposed to look for Fructose Compounding. That's how all the information is stored on this vitamin system.

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.enviroalternatives.com/foodsupplanswers.html
">http://www.enviroalternatives....pplanswers.html
</a>
<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.freelists.org/archives/tri-med/02-2005/msg00492.html
">http://www.freelists.org/archi...5/msg00492.html
</a>
<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://yourhealthandmine.net/vit4bfructosecompounding.htm">http://yourhealthandmine.net/v...ructosecompounding.htm</a>


These sites explains how fructose compounding works. The basics are that: for vitamins to work, they have to be:

balanced (too much vitamin A can kill you, too little will make you susceptible to colds)

natural (Kodak sells a petroleum derived product to most of the vitamin industry--it is used as a vitamin coating--hence why most One-A-Days wind up whole, undigested, in your septic system. Also, synthetic vitamins aren't necessarily to be good for you.)

guaranteed (Melaleuca will let you try them for 3 months, then get your money back if it doesn't meet your expectations. (which is how long it takes for a particular vitamin to really prove it's worth--though some people show improvement within one dose, like my father: most likely because he had already began flooding his system with carrot juice, and changing his diet. My first reaction was to want to sleep for the first day or so...then I was hyper. I can honestly say that this is the first time in my adult life that I've slept soundly at night. Remember, everyone is different, and their reaction won't be exactly the same. (The sites above will tell you of their own experiences.))

tested (on humans, since they have to take them)

ensures mineral absorption (minerals are bonded to the fructose--a sugar that is not insulin dependent, and easily makes it through your cell membranes)


Also, you don't have to join in the "pyramid scheme" to buy the vitamins. It's just cheaper (they give a discout to full members, as well as through "cost-per use", and getting money back from a percentage of the sales from those you recommended to it) to join that way. I personally wouldn't enroll anyone as just a customer, for that reason alone. As for pyramid schemes, Mary Kay is a pyramid scheme, but people make money off it all the time (not always an excessive amount). The reason why some pyramid schemes work is because if it's a highly consumable product: vitamins, makeup, cleaners,food, hygiene products. If it's something that really works, and you're going to buy it, and often going to recommend it for other people, then the possible threat of problems with pyramid schemes becomes, often quite negligible.

Melaleuca is obsessed with the thought of natural products.

Now, if they'd help with Cystic Fibrosis, I'm not sure of there's an added benefit of taking these vitamins for someone with this disease, any more than what they do for me. I don't have the disease to test it on me. But I do know that natural as possible household products would overall improve the air quality of the environment in the home, and that's invaluable:

The relationship of Agent Orange and Lysol is just one:
<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.whale.to/a/orange.html
">http://www.whale.to/a/orange.html
</a>

Mom's hairdresser almost killed herself by using Lysol (reason for use: severely allergic to mold). So many compounds in household cleaners are outright toxic (the ones listed on the container) or in larger amounts than is in the compounds, is toxic. Anything with phosphates is creating the dead zone in the Gulf of Mexico--that means the leading dishwasher detergent, and many Tide products.

The only time I've not had respiratory issues was when I was a child, in a house full of Melaleuca products. I joined in on their "pyramid scheme"--btw, it's not quite the same, since they don't involve breakaways, like the others do. I'm doing it to regain the health I once had. It might do the same for you.
 

DragonSlaveII

New member
You're supposed to look for Fructose Compounding. That's how all the information is stored on this vitamin system.
<br />
<br /><a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.enviroalternatives.com/foodsupplanswers.html
<br />">http://www.enviroalternatives....pplanswers.html
<br /></a>
<br /><a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.freelists.org/archives/tri-med/02-2005/msg00492.html
<br />">http://www.freelists.org/archi...5/msg00492.html
<br /></a>
<br /><a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://yourhealthandmine.net/vit4bfructosecompounding.htm">http://yourhealthandmine.net/v...ructosecompounding.htm</a>
<br />
<br />
<br />These sites explains how fructose compounding works. The basics are that: for vitamins to work, they have to be:
<br />
<br />balanced (too much vitamin A can kill you, too little will make you susceptible to colds)
<br />
<br />natural (Kodak sells a petroleum derived product to most of the vitamin industry--it is used as a vitamin coating--hence why most One-A-Days wind up whole, undigested, in your septic system. Also, synthetic vitamins aren't necessarily to be good for you.)
<br />
<br />guaranteed (Melaleuca will let you try them for 3 months, then get your money back if it doesn't meet your expectations. (which is how long it takes for a particular vitamin to really prove it's worth--though some people show improvement within one dose, like my father: most likely because he had already began flooding his system with carrot juice, and changing his diet. My first reaction was to want to sleep for the first day or so...then I was hyper. I can honestly say that this is the first time in my adult life that I've slept soundly at night. Remember, everyone is different, and their reaction won't be exactly the same. (The sites above will tell you of their own experiences.))
<br />
<br />tested (on humans, since they have to take them)
<br />
<br />ensures mineral absorption (minerals are bonded to the fructose--a sugar that is not insulin dependent, and easily makes it through your cell membranes)
<br />
<br />
<br />Also, you don't have to join in the "pyramid scheme" to buy the vitamins. It's just cheaper (they give a discout to full members, as well as through "cost-per use", and getting money back from a percentage of the sales from those you recommended to it) to join that way. I personally wouldn't enroll anyone as just a customer, for that reason alone. As for pyramid schemes, Mary Kay is a pyramid scheme, but people make money off it all the time (not always an excessive amount). The reason why some pyramid schemes work is because if it's a highly consumable product: vitamins, makeup, cleaners,food, hygiene products. If it's something that really works, and you're going to buy it, and often going to recommend it for other people, then the possible threat of problems with pyramid schemes becomes, often quite negligible.
<br />
<br />Melaleuca is obsessed with the thought of natural products.
<br />
<br />Now, if they'd help with Cystic Fibrosis, I'm not sure of there's an added benefit of taking these vitamins for someone with this disease, any more than what they do for me. I don't have the disease to test it on me. But I do know that natural as possible household products would overall improve the air quality of the environment in the home, and that's invaluable:
<br />
<br />The relationship of Agent Orange and Lysol is just one:
<br /><a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.whale.to/a/orange.html
<br />">http://www.whale.to/a/orange.html
<br /></a>
<br />
<br />Mom's hairdresser almost killed herself by using Lysol (reason for use: severely allergic to mold). So many compounds in household cleaners are outright toxic (the ones listed on the container) or in larger amounts than is in the compounds, is toxic. Anything with phosphates is creating the dead zone in the Gulf of Mexico--that means the leading dishwasher detergent, and many Tide products.
<br />
<br />The only time I've not had respiratory issues was when I was a child, in a house full of Melaleuca products. I joined in on their "pyramid scheme"--btw, it's not quite the same, since they don't involve breakaways, like the others do. I'm doing it to regain the health I once had. It might do the same for you.
 

miesl

New member
You've made only two posts to the forums, and you admit to not having CF.

I call foul.

You show up on our forum for no apparent reason other than to promote Melaleuca (which I find to be overpriced and not worth a hill of beans, but that's another issue entirely) and insult our intelligence with anti-chemical propaganda.

Might I interest you in the perils of dihydrogen monoxide?
 

miesl

New member
You've made only two posts to the forums, and you admit to not having CF.

I call foul.

You show up on our forum for no apparent reason other than to promote Melaleuca (which I find to be overpriced and not worth a hill of beans, but that's another issue entirely) and insult our intelligence with anti-chemical propaganda.

Might I interest you in the perils of dihydrogen monoxide?
 

miesl

New member
You've made only two posts to the forums, and you admit to not having CF.

I call foul.

You show up on our forum for no apparent reason other than to promote Melaleuca (which I find to be overpriced and not worth a hill of beans, but that's another issue entirely) and insult our intelligence with anti-chemical propaganda.

Might I interest you in the perils of dihydrogen monoxide?
 

miesl

New member
You've made only two posts to the forums, and you admit to not having CF.

I call foul.

You show up on our forum for no apparent reason other than to promote Melaleuca (which I find to be overpriced and not worth a hill of beans, but that's another issue entirely) and insult our intelligence with anti-chemical propaganda.

Might I interest you in the perils of dihydrogen monoxide?
 
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