Glyconutrients

CFHockeyMom

New member
Not sure how many of you caught 20/20 last night but they did a piece on glyconutrients. I haven't seen any recent posts on here about it but none the less the story caught my eye since we'd seen our share of the pyramid schemers on here. This is such a scam and I feel so sorry for the people that have bought into it.

Thought you all might be interested.

Click on the link and then look in "top stories" for 'Sugar Pills: Are They Miracle Cures?' for the text version. There's also a video clip, 'Sugar Pill Treats Cancer?'

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://abcnews.go.com/2020">20/20</a>

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=3228488&page=1">Text version</a>

In the actual story they cited CF as one of the target "audiences" for this scam.
 

CFHockeyMom

New member
Not sure how many of you caught 20/20 last night but they did a piece on glyconutrients. I haven't seen any recent posts on here about it but none the less the story caught my eye since we'd seen our share of the pyramid schemers on here. This is such a scam and I feel so sorry for the people that have bought into it.

Thought you all might be interested.

Click on the link and then look in "top stories" for 'Sugar Pills: Are They Miracle Cures?' for the text version. There's also a video clip, 'Sugar Pill Treats Cancer?'

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://abcnews.go.com/2020">20/20</a>

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=3228488&page=1">Text version</a>

In the actual story they cited CF as one of the target "audiences" for this scam.
 

CFHockeyMom

New member
Not sure how many of you caught 20/20 last night but they did a piece on glyconutrients. I haven't seen any recent posts on here about it but none the less the story caught my eye since we'd seen our share of the pyramid schemers on here. This is such a scam and I feel so sorry for the people that have bought into it.

Thought you all might be interested.

Click on the link and then look in "top stories" for 'Sugar Pills: Are They Miracle Cures?' for the text version. There's also a video clip, 'Sugar Pill Treats Cancer?'

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://abcnews.go.com/2020">20/20</a>

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=3228488&page=1">Text version</a>

In the actual story they cited CF as one of the target "audiences" for this scam.
 

CFHockeyMom

New member
Not sure how many of you caught 20/20 last night but they did a piece on glyconutrients. I haven't seen any recent posts on here about it but none the less the story caught my eye since we'd seen our share of the pyramid schemers on here. This is such a scam and I feel so sorry for the people that have bought into it.

Thought you all might be interested.

Click on the link and then look in "top stories" for 'Sugar Pills: Are They Miracle Cures?' for the text version. There's also a video clip, 'Sugar Pill Treats Cancer?'

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://abcnews.go.com/2020">20/20</a>

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=3228488&page=1">Text version</a>

In the actual story they cited CF as one of the target "audiences" for this scam.
 

CFHockeyMom

New member
Not sure how many of you caught 20/20 last night but they did a piece on glyconutrients. I haven't seen any recent posts on here about it but none the less the story caught my eye since we'd seen our share of the pyramid schemers on here. This is such a scam and I feel so sorry for the people that have bought into it.

Thought you all might be interested.

Click on the link and then look in "top stories" for 'Sugar Pills: Are They Miracle Cures?' for the text version. There's also a video clip, 'Sugar Pill Treats Cancer?'

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://abcnews.go.com/2020">20/20</a>

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=3228488&page=1">Text version</a>

In the actual story they cited CF as one of the target "audiences" for this scam.
 

CFHockeyMom

New member
Not sure how many of you caught 20/20 last night but they did a piece on glyconutrients. I haven't seen any recent posts on here about it but none the less the story caught my eye since we'd seen our share of the pyramid schemers on here. This is such a scam and I feel so sorry for the people that have bought into it.

Thought you all might be interested.

Click on the link and then look in "top stories" for 'Sugar Pills: Are They Miracle Cures?' for the text version. There's also a video clip, 'Sugar Pill Treats Cancer?'

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://abcnews.go.com/2020">20/20</a>

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=3228488&page=1">Text version</a>

In the actual story they cited CF as one of the target "audiences" for this scam.
 

kayleesgrandma

New member
That was pretty incredible reading--how can people be so naive? Even though I kow they are desparate--but to not try the standard radiation treatments and rely on a pill? Some people just don't get it.<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-disgusted.gif" border="0">
 

kayleesgrandma

New member
That was pretty incredible reading--how can people be so naive? Even though I kow they are desparate--but to not try the standard radiation treatments and rely on a pill? Some people just don't get it.<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-disgusted.gif" border="0">
 

kayleesgrandma

New member
That was pretty incredible reading--how can people be so naive? Even though I kow they are desparate--but to not try the standard radiation treatments and rely on a pill? Some people just don't get it.<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-disgusted.gif" border="0">
 

kayleesgrandma

New member
That was pretty incredible reading--how can people be so naive? Even though I kow they are desparate--but to not try the standard radiation treatments and rely on a pill? Some people just don't get it.<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-disgusted.gif" border="0">
 

kayleesgrandma

New member
That was pretty incredible reading--how can people be so naive? Even though I kow they are desparate--but to not try the standard radiation treatments and rely on a pill? Some people just don't get it.<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-disgusted.gif" border="0">
 

kayleesgrandma

New member
That was pretty incredible reading--how can people be so naive? Even though I kow they are desparate--but to not try the standard radiation treatments and rely on a pill? Some people just don't get it.<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-disgusted.gif" border="0">
 

lightNlife

New member
Ahh, it's nice to have confirmation about what I already knew.

Here's something I had written about my own thoughts on glyconutrients, as well as some comments I received on it.

Tuesday, December 06, 2005
Glyconutrients? None For Me, Thanks

Recently there has been some back and forth discussion on some CF blogs regarding the benefits of glyconutrients. Although some people feel very strongly about this "natural" approach to treating CF by means of nutritional supplements, I for one am not convinced that this is a beneficial route to take. Certainly there are benefits of supplementing the diet, especially for those of us who have pancreatic insufficiency, but based on what I've read, I'm not willing to fill my cupboards with more pills or supplements on the off-chance that they might work.

Here are what some highly reputable websites have to say about glyconutrients:

The Mayo Clinic

* Although animal studies suggest possible health benefits from glyconutrient supplementation, there is very little research to support any of these health claims in humans. This makes it difficult to assess the potential risks and benefits of glyconutritional supplements. Also, because supplements aren't regulated by the Food and Drug Administration, they haven't been rigorously tested or approved. As a result, the long-term safety of these products isn't known.

Cystic Fibrosis Foundation (US)

* Whereas these products may have health benefits for people with CF, there is very little scientific evidence to corroborate these claims. In addition, there is no data as to the safety of these supplements when taken in high doses for a period of time.

* We encourage everyone with CF to consult with their CF care center physician before introducing any new treatment, medication or dietary supplement into their regimen or before removing a prescribed therapy from their treatment plan.

Most of what I have read regarding glyconutrients is in the context of treating children with CF, and possibly those who are too young to eat properly to ingest the recommended daily allowances of vitamins and minerals. As an adult I make sure to eat a well balanced diet, one that provides me with as many of the biochemicals my body needs to function properly.

Until more research is available, the safety and long term benefits are assessed and this supplementation approach is endorsed by the CF Foundation, I'm going to "just say no" to the glyconutrient regime and stick with the vitamin supplements my doctor recommends. I trust his evaluation far more than that of a company that is just looking to make a buck.


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Anonymous said...

I think that you should do more research and checkout Harpers Biochemistry and also the Physicians desk reference

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Lauren said...

Harper's Biochemistry, chapter 56 discusses the 8 glyconutrients and their role in how the body functions. As a former biochemistry major, I'm not disputing the science and chemistry behind it. I'm disputing the so-called "truth" that this stuff works particularly for Cystic Fibrosis patients. Several hundreds of physicians may be using this for their patients for a variety of reasons (cancer patients, ADHD, fibromyalgia) but there has not been conclusive evidence from a study of this approach with CF.

According to what I've read, the use of glyconutrients has been examined in a scientifically validated study. For those of you who are unfamilar with medical research terminology, this is not the same as a scientifically proven study. A validation study means that they are able to get repeatable results within a large enough sampling popluation, all under similar conditions.

Show me a scientifically proven, double-blind study, carried out on an adult population of CF patients, and then I'll be willing to expand my horizons. Until then, I'm closing the book on this matter.
 

lightNlife

New member
Ahh, it's nice to have confirmation about what I already knew.

Here's something I had written about my own thoughts on glyconutrients, as well as some comments I received on it.

Tuesday, December 06, 2005
Glyconutrients? None For Me, Thanks

Recently there has been some back and forth discussion on some CF blogs regarding the benefits of glyconutrients. Although some people feel very strongly about this "natural" approach to treating CF by means of nutritional supplements, I for one am not convinced that this is a beneficial route to take. Certainly there are benefits of supplementing the diet, especially for those of us who have pancreatic insufficiency, but based on what I've read, I'm not willing to fill my cupboards with more pills or supplements on the off-chance that they might work.

Here are what some highly reputable websites have to say about glyconutrients:

The Mayo Clinic

* Although animal studies suggest possible health benefits from glyconutrient supplementation, there is very little research to support any of these health claims in humans. This makes it difficult to assess the potential risks and benefits of glyconutritional supplements. Also, because supplements aren't regulated by the Food and Drug Administration, they haven't been rigorously tested or approved. As a result, the long-term safety of these products isn't known.

Cystic Fibrosis Foundation (US)

* Whereas these products may have health benefits for people with CF, there is very little scientific evidence to corroborate these claims. In addition, there is no data as to the safety of these supplements when taken in high doses for a period of time.

* We encourage everyone with CF to consult with their CF care center physician before introducing any new treatment, medication or dietary supplement into their regimen or before removing a prescribed therapy from their treatment plan.

Most of what I have read regarding glyconutrients is in the context of treating children with CF, and possibly those who are too young to eat properly to ingest the recommended daily allowances of vitamins and minerals. As an adult I make sure to eat a well balanced diet, one that provides me with as many of the biochemicals my body needs to function properly.

Until more research is available, the safety and long term benefits are assessed and this supplementation approach is endorsed by the CF Foundation, I'm going to "just say no" to the glyconutrient regime and stick with the vitamin supplements my doctor recommends. I trust his evaluation far more than that of a company that is just looking to make a buck.


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Anonymous said...

I think that you should do more research and checkout Harpers Biochemistry and also the Physicians desk reference

--

Lauren said...

Harper's Biochemistry, chapter 56 discusses the 8 glyconutrients and their role in how the body functions. As a former biochemistry major, I'm not disputing the science and chemistry behind it. I'm disputing the so-called "truth" that this stuff works particularly for Cystic Fibrosis patients. Several hundreds of physicians may be using this for their patients for a variety of reasons (cancer patients, ADHD, fibromyalgia) but there has not been conclusive evidence from a study of this approach with CF.

According to what I've read, the use of glyconutrients has been examined in a scientifically validated study. For those of you who are unfamilar with medical research terminology, this is not the same as a scientifically proven study. A validation study means that they are able to get repeatable results within a large enough sampling popluation, all under similar conditions.

Show me a scientifically proven, double-blind study, carried out on an adult population of CF patients, and then I'll be willing to expand my horizons. Until then, I'm closing the book on this matter.
 

lightNlife

New member
Ahh, it's nice to have confirmation about what I already knew.

Here's something I had written about my own thoughts on glyconutrients, as well as some comments I received on it.

Tuesday, December 06, 2005
Glyconutrients? None For Me, Thanks

Recently there has been some back and forth discussion on some CF blogs regarding the benefits of glyconutrients. Although some people feel very strongly about this "natural" approach to treating CF by means of nutritional supplements, I for one am not convinced that this is a beneficial route to take. Certainly there are benefits of supplementing the diet, especially for those of us who have pancreatic insufficiency, but based on what I've read, I'm not willing to fill my cupboards with more pills or supplements on the off-chance that they might work.

Here are what some highly reputable websites have to say about glyconutrients:

The Mayo Clinic

* Although animal studies suggest possible health benefits from glyconutrient supplementation, there is very little research to support any of these health claims in humans. This makes it difficult to assess the potential risks and benefits of glyconutritional supplements. Also, because supplements aren't regulated by the Food and Drug Administration, they haven't been rigorously tested or approved. As a result, the long-term safety of these products isn't known.

Cystic Fibrosis Foundation (US)

* Whereas these products may have health benefits for people with CF, there is very little scientific evidence to corroborate these claims. In addition, there is no data as to the safety of these supplements when taken in high doses for a period of time.

* We encourage everyone with CF to consult with their CF care center physician before introducing any new treatment, medication or dietary supplement into their regimen or before removing a prescribed therapy from their treatment plan.

Most of what I have read regarding glyconutrients is in the context of treating children with CF, and possibly those who are too young to eat properly to ingest the recommended daily allowances of vitamins and minerals. As an adult I make sure to eat a well balanced diet, one that provides me with as many of the biochemicals my body needs to function properly.

Until more research is available, the safety and long term benefits are assessed and this supplementation approach is endorsed by the CF Foundation, I'm going to "just say no" to the glyconutrient regime and stick with the vitamin supplements my doctor recommends. I trust his evaluation far more than that of a company that is just looking to make a buck.


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Anonymous said...

I think that you should do more research and checkout Harpers Biochemistry and also the Physicians desk reference

--

Lauren said...

Harper's Biochemistry, chapter 56 discusses the 8 glyconutrients and their role in how the body functions. As a former biochemistry major, I'm not disputing the science and chemistry behind it. I'm disputing the so-called "truth" that this stuff works particularly for Cystic Fibrosis patients. Several hundreds of physicians may be using this for their patients for a variety of reasons (cancer patients, ADHD, fibromyalgia) but there has not been conclusive evidence from a study of this approach with CF.

According to what I've read, the use of glyconutrients has been examined in a scientifically validated study. For those of you who are unfamilar with medical research terminology, this is not the same as a scientifically proven study. A validation study means that they are able to get repeatable results within a large enough sampling popluation, all under similar conditions.

Show me a scientifically proven, double-blind study, carried out on an adult population of CF patients, and then I'll be willing to expand my horizons. Until then, I'm closing the book on this matter.
 

lightNlife

New member
Ahh, it's nice to have confirmation about what I already knew.

Here's something I had written about my own thoughts on glyconutrients, as well as some comments I received on it.

Tuesday, December 06, 2005
Glyconutrients? None For Me, Thanks

Recently there has been some back and forth discussion on some CF blogs regarding the benefits of glyconutrients. Although some people feel very strongly about this "natural" approach to treating CF by means of nutritional supplements, I for one am not convinced that this is a beneficial route to take. Certainly there are benefits of supplementing the diet, especially for those of us who have pancreatic insufficiency, but based on what I've read, I'm not willing to fill my cupboards with more pills or supplements on the off-chance that they might work.

Here are what some highly reputable websites have to say about glyconutrients:

The Mayo Clinic

* Although animal studies suggest possible health benefits from glyconutrient supplementation, there is very little research to support any of these health claims in humans. This makes it difficult to assess the potential risks and benefits of glyconutritional supplements. Also, because supplements aren't regulated by the Food and Drug Administration, they haven't been rigorously tested or approved. As a result, the long-term safety of these products isn't known.

Cystic Fibrosis Foundation (US)

* Whereas these products may have health benefits for people with CF, there is very little scientific evidence to corroborate these claims. In addition, there is no data as to the safety of these supplements when taken in high doses for a period of time.

* We encourage everyone with CF to consult with their CF care center physician before introducing any new treatment, medication or dietary supplement into their regimen or before removing a prescribed therapy from their treatment plan.

Most of what I have read regarding glyconutrients is in the context of treating children with CF, and possibly those who are too young to eat properly to ingest the recommended daily allowances of vitamins and minerals. As an adult I make sure to eat a well balanced diet, one that provides me with as many of the biochemicals my body needs to function properly.

Until more research is available, the safety and long term benefits are assessed and this supplementation approach is endorsed by the CF Foundation, I'm going to "just say no" to the glyconutrient regime and stick with the vitamin supplements my doctor recommends. I trust his evaluation far more than that of a company that is just looking to make a buck.


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Anonymous said...

I think that you should do more research and checkout Harpers Biochemistry and also the Physicians desk reference

--

Lauren said...

Harper's Biochemistry, chapter 56 discusses the 8 glyconutrients and their role in how the body functions. As a former biochemistry major, I'm not disputing the science and chemistry behind it. I'm disputing the so-called "truth" that this stuff works particularly for Cystic Fibrosis patients. Several hundreds of physicians may be using this for their patients for a variety of reasons (cancer patients, ADHD, fibromyalgia) but there has not been conclusive evidence from a study of this approach with CF.

According to what I've read, the use of glyconutrients has been examined in a scientifically validated study. For those of you who are unfamilar with medical research terminology, this is not the same as a scientifically proven study. A validation study means that they are able to get repeatable results within a large enough sampling popluation, all under similar conditions.

Show me a scientifically proven, double-blind study, carried out on an adult population of CF patients, and then I'll be willing to expand my horizons. Until then, I'm closing the book on this matter.
 

lightNlife

New member
Ahh, it's nice to have confirmation about what I already knew.

Here's something I had written about my own thoughts on glyconutrients, as well as some comments I received on it.

Tuesday, December 06, 2005
Glyconutrients? None For Me, Thanks

Recently there has been some back and forth discussion on some CF blogs regarding the benefits of glyconutrients. Although some people feel very strongly about this "natural" approach to treating CF by means of nutritional supplements, I for one am not convinced that this is a beneficial route to take. Certainly there are benefits of supplementing the diet, especially for those of us who have pancreatic insufficiency, but based on what I've read, I'm not willing to fill my cupboards with more pills or supplements on the off-chance that they might work.

Here are what some highly reputable websites have to say about glyconutrients:

The Mayo Clinic

* Although animal studies suggest possible health benefits from glyconutrient supplementation, there is very little research to support any of these health claims in humans. This makes it difficult to assess the potential risks and benefits of glyconutritional supplements. Also, because supplements aren't regulated by the Food and Drug Administration, they haven't been rigorously tested or approved. As a result, the long-term safety of these products isn't known.

Cystic Fibrosis Foundation (US)

* Whereas these products may have health benefits for people with CF, there is very little scientific evidence to corroborate these claims. In addition, there is no data as to the safety of these supplements when taken in high doses for a period of time.

* We encourage everyone with CF to consult with their CF care center physician before introducing any new treatment, medication or dietary supplement into their regimen or before removing a prescribed therapy from their treatment plan.

Most of what I have read regarding glyconutrients is in the context of treating children with CF, and possibly those who are too young to eat properly to ingest the recommended daily allowances of vitamins and minerals. As an adult I make sure to eat a well balanced diet, one that provides me with as many of the biochemicals my body needs to function properly.

Until more research is available, the safety and long term benefits are assessed and this supplementation approach is endorsed by the CF Foundation, I'm going to "just say no" to the glyconutrient regime and stick with the vitamin supplements my doctor recommends. I trust his evaluation far more than that of a company that is just looking to make a buck.


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Anonymous said...

I think that you should do more research and checkout Harpers Biochemistry and also the Physicians desk reference

--

Lauren said...

Harper's Biochemistry, chapter 56 discusses the 8 glyconutrients and their role in how the body functions. As a former biochemistry major, I'm not disputing the science and chemistry behind it. I'm disputing the so-called "truth" that this stuff works particularly for Cystic Fibrosis patients. Several hundreds of physicians may be using this for their patients for a variety of reasons (cancer patients, ADHD, fibromyalgia) but there has not been conclusive evidence from a study of this approach with CF.

According to what I've read, the use of glyconutrients has been examined in a scientifically validated study. For those of you who are unfamilar with medical research terminology, this is not the same as a scientifically proven study. A validation study means that they are able to get repeatable results within a large enough sampling popluation, all under similar conditions.

Show me a scientifically proven, double-blind study, carried out on an adult population of CF patients, and then I'll be willing to expand my horizons. Until then, I'm closing the book on this matter.
 

lightNlife

New member
Ahh, it's nice to have confirmation about what I already knew.

Here's something I had written about my own thoughts on glyconutrients, as well as some comments I received on it.

Tuesday, December 06, 2005
Glyconutrients? None For Me, Thanks

Recently there has been some back and forth discussion on some CF blogs regarding the benefits of glyconutrients. Although some people feel very strongly about this "natural" approach to treating CF by means of nutritional supplements, I for one am not convinced that this is a beneficial route to take. Certainly there are benefits of supplementing the diet, especially for those of us who have pancreatic insufficiency, but based on what I've read, I'm not willing to fill my cupboards with more pills or supplements on the off-chance that they might work.

Here are what some highly reputable websites have to say about glyconutrients:

The Mayo Clinic

* Although animal studies suggest possible health benefits from glyconutrient supplementation, there is very little research to support any of these health claims in humans. This makes it difficult to assess the potential risks and benefits of glyconutritional supplements. Also, because supplements aren't regulated by the Food and Drug Administration, they haven't been rigorously tested or approved. As a result, the long-term safety of these products isn't known.

Cystic Fibrosis Foundation (US)

* Whereas these products may have health benefits for people with CF, there is very little scientific evidence to corroborate these claims. In addition, there is no data as to the safety of these supplements when taken in high doses for a period of time.

* We encourage everyone with CF to consult with their CF care center physician before introducing any new treatment, medication or dietary supplement into their regimen or before removing a prescribed therapy from their treatment plan.

Most of what I have read regarding glyconutrients is in the context of treating children with CF, and possibly those who are too young to eat properly to ingest the recommended daily allowances of vitamins and minerals. As an adult I make sure to eat a well balanced diet, one that provides me with as many of the biochemicals my body needs to function properly.

Until more research is available, the safety and long term benefits are assessed and this supplementation approach is endorsed by the CF Foundation, I'm going to "just say no" to the glyconutrient regime and stick with the vitamin supplements my doctor recommends. I trust his evaluation far more than that of a company that is just looking to make a buck.


---
Anonymous said...

I think that you should do more research and checkout Harpers Biochemistry and also the Physicians desk reference

--

Lauren said...

Harper's Biochemistry, chapter 56 discusses the 8 glyconutrients and their role in how the body functions. As a former biochemistry major, I'm not disputing the science and chemistry behind it. I'm disputing the so-called "truth" that this stuff works particularly for Cystic Fibrosis patients. Several hundreds of physicians may be using this for their patients for a variety of reasons (cancer patients, ADHD, fibromyalgia) but there has not been conclusive evidence from a study of this approach with CF.

According to what I've read, the use of glyconutrients has been examined in a scientifically validated study. For those of you who are unfamilar with medical research terminology, this is not the same as a scientifically proven study. A validation study means that they are able to get repeatable results within a large enough sampling popluation, all under similar conditions.

Show me a scientifically proven, double-blind study, carried out on an adult population of CF patients, and then I'll be willing to expand my horizons. Until then, I'm closing the book on this matter.
 

jfarel

New member
Nothing in the 20/20 video that I didn't know. It proved nothing. They didn't show the testimonials were false or the science behind them. Maybe they will in the next broadcast, but for now, I still believe the products are good.

99 percent of the time the people that try ambrotose have tried everything else. I have a personal friend who according to his blood work, the doctors said his cancer was returning. He took high doses of the ambrotose and he has been fine ever since.

Like I said in the other thread. I believe the science is good behind these products and I believe the will work for some people, but not everyone.

I'm not a medical doctor but I know of doctors who actually recommend patients try them. Oh, and I have absolutely know interest in selling theses products. I think they are overpriced and multi-level marketing stinks.
 

jfarel

New member
Nothing in the 20/20 video that I didn't know. It proved nothing. They didn't show the testimonials were false or the science behind them. Maybe they will in the next broadcast, but for now, I still believe the products are good.

99 percent of the time the people that try ambrotose have tried everything else. I have a personal friend who according to his blood work, the doctors said his cancer was returning. He took high doses of the ambrotose and he has been fine ever since.

Like I said in the other thread. I believe the science is good behind these products and I believe the will work for some people, but not everyone.

I'm not a medical doctor but I know of doctors who actually recommend patients try them. Oh, and I have absolutely know interest in selling theses products. I think they are overpriced and multi-level marketing stinks.
 
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