GSH and my experience

[Diane]

KrazyKat ~ I emailed Dr. Bishop about the cepacia issue with GSH and he said it is only theory. But he advised to do so with caution since they just dont know yet. I told him i was just using it orally and he said that shbouldnt be a problem. That was almost 5 years ago. Most of what i read about GSH was from people who were inhaling it and taking it orally. I wondered if it would benefit me if i tried it orally only and spoke to a few people who were using it orally only and decided to give it a try. It made a huge difference for me. Im not sure but ,maybe if i didnt have hemoptysis problems, i might be more apt to try inhaling it. But since i do have hemoptysis problems i will stick to taking it orally. I talked to my Doctor years ago about the theory of GSH causing the inflammation to go down and that being a problem and she had said to me in cf they want the inflammation to go down and that includes cepacia patients. She said if that were an issue they would never give cepacia patients steriods to reduce inflammation. Either way she recommended i never inhale it mainly because of my hemoptysis problems. There are however some petients with cepacia that do inhale it and are doing well. You may want to post on the Glutathine and cystic fibrosis message board and ask about it. My Best wishes <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

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[AnD]

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>dramamama</b></i>





Also, NAC is dangerous in high doses...toxic to the liver...GSH is not toxic. In fact, the only side effect is diarhea in high doses...same as high dose vitamin c.



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Can you tell me where you found that NAC is toxic to the liver in high doses? I have been googling and haven't found that, and one of the reasons that the oral GHS and NAC are of interest to me is that I have read that glutathione is good for your liver (milk thistle and all <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> ) and I have liver problems. I don't want to be going backwards!<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif" border="0">

 

[AnD]

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>dramamama</b></i>





Also, NAC is dangerous in high doses...toxic to the liver...GSH is not toxic. In fact, the only side effect is diarhea in high doses...same as high dose vitamin c.



Hope this helps.</end quote></div>

Can you tell me where you found that NAC is toxic to the liver in high doses? I have been googling and haven't found that, and one of the reasons that the oral GHS and NAC are of interest to me is that I have read that glutathione is good for your liver (milk thistle and all <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> ) and I have liver problems. I don't want to be going backwards!<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif" border="0">

 

[AnD]

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>dramamama</b></i>





Also, NAC is dangerous in high doses...toxic to the liver...GSH is not toxic. In fact, the only side effect is diarhea in high doses...same as high dose vitamin c.



Hope this helps.</end quote></div>

Can you tell me where you found that NAC is toxic to the liver in high doses? I have been googling and haven't found that, and one of the reasons that the oral GHS and NAC are of interest to me is that I have read that glutathione is good for your liver (milk thistle and all <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> ) and I have liver problems. I don't want to be going backwards!<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif" border="0">

 

[AnD]

Oh! And thanks for the links! (I posted again before checking for new posts<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-blush.gif" border="0">) I'll go reading this afternoon when the munchkin takes her nap <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">.

 

[AnD]

Oh! And thanks for the links! (I posted again before checking for new posts<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-blush.gif" border="0">) I'll go reading this afternoon when the munchkin takes her nap <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">.

 

[AnD]

Oh! And thanks for the links! (I posted again before checking for new posts<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-blush.gif" border="0">) I'll go reading this afternoon when the munchkin takes her nap <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">.

 

[Diane]

Glutathione is good for the liver, but i also have read that NAC can be toxic in high doses. I read it somewhere on this board below ........ You may want to post this question on there, someone has that info.

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[Diane]

Glutathione is good for the liver, but i also have read that NAC can be toxic in high doses. I read it somewhere on this board below ........ You may want to post this question on there, someone has that info.

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[Diane]

Glutathione is good for the liver, but i also have read that NAC can be toxic in high doses. I read it somewhere on this board below ........ You may want to post this question on there, someone has that info.

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[Diane]

Here you go i just found it....................
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[Diane]

Here you go i just found it....................
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[Diane]

Here you go i just found it....................
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[dramamama]

AnD-
NAC is toxic in high doses...I'l find some studies that suggest this. In fact, my cf doc will not allow me to inhale mucomyst because he has seen so much liver damage from this drug...Mucomyst is NAC.

Having said that, many hospitals use mucomyst and NAC everyday to treat liver damage. I think what you need to look at here is the export issue. When you take NAC, your body (liver actually) rushes to turn it into glutathione as the liver detoxifier. The problem here is that all that great glutathione that was just made inside your cells is STUCK in the cells....not really doing a bit of good....the answer is to just take glutathione instead....it does all that NAC does only faster and more efficiently.

 

[dramamama]

AnD-
NAC is toxic in high doses...I'l find some studies that suggest this. In fact, my cf doc will not allow me to inhale mucomyst because he has seen so much liver damage from this drug...Mucomyst is NAC.

Having said that, many hospitals use mucomyst and NAC everyday to treat liver damage. I think what you need to look at here is the export issue. When you take NAC, your body (liver actually) rushes to turn it into glutathione as the liver detoxifier. The problem here is that all that great glutathione that was just made inside your cells is STUCK in the cells....not really doing a bit of good....the answer is to just take glutathione instead....it does all that NAC does only faster and more efficiently.

 

[dramamama]

AnD-
NAC is toxic in high doses...I'l find some studies that suggest this. In fact, my cf doc will not allow me to inhale mucomyst because he has seen so much liver damage from this drug...Mucomyst is NAC.

Having said that, many hospitals use mucomyst and NAC everyday to treat liver damage. I think what you need to look at here is the export issue. When you take NAC, your body (liver actually) rushes to turn it into glutathione as the liver detoxifier. The problem here is that all that great glutathione that was just made inside your cells is STUCK in the cells....not really doing a bit of good....the answer is to just take glutathione instead....it does all that NAC does only faster and more efficiently.

 

[AnD]

Thank you! I've got quite a list to take to my yearly appointment this month <img src=""> .

I had read about milk thistle being good for the liver, and now I understand where that was coming from <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> .

 

[AnD]

Thank you! I've got quite a list to take to my yearly appointment this month <img src=""> .

I had read about milk thistle being good for the liver, and now I understand where that was coming from <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> .

 

[AnD]

Thank you! I've got quite a list to take to my yearly appointment this month <img src=""> .

I had read about milk thistle being good for the liver, and now I understand where that was coming from <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> .

 

[KrazyKat]

Diane/Mandy you guys are bloody fantastic (excuse my french!!) seriously i dont know where i'd be without this forum sometimes!!
I have absorbed everything you have both had to say and here's the thing....i have in my cupboard of supplements both GSH (by TheraNaturals) and NAC by Young Again I believe) and currently am taking 2 x 600mg of NAC daily.
What I am wondering is should i be taking a combination of the two and if so, in what doses? Diane i think from memory you take about 1200mg of GSH a day correct? Mandy, how much do you take?
I've also decided that once i have finished my Pulmozyme trial about mid-June i will first start inhaling Hypertonic Saline and see what that does (not sure why but as when i'm well i don't produce much sputum i think HS is going to work really well for me), then after a couple of months of HS, i think i'm going to try inhaling GSH......that is only if the HS doesn't cause any hemoptysis problems for me.
Thanks again both of you, much appreciated <img src="i/expressions/rose.gif" border="0">