i used to get those red, raised, welt-looking hives, along with the pains and everything else the first post says when i was younger, about ages 6-10, but could never get a c.f. appointment fast enough to show the doctor and have them assess what it could've been from. the hives haven't happened since my childhood, so i haven't had a chance to figure out what they were or what they could've been caused from though we still do make it a point to mention to doctors, i still get the pains just minus the red hives, but i wasn't sure if what happens now could've been related to what happens now and never really thought of my back pains being related to the hives, though i did sort of link the hives and the joint and bone pains to it in my own mind, seeing as how, originally, they would come at the same times. though as i've grown older the red hives have stopped, the pains have remained and increased and gotten to being present just about every single day now. the only thing that's seemed to bring me any relief in my joint and bone pain aspect has been muscle relaxers such as tramadol, which i rarely get for p.i.c.c lines and also fail to completely or even mostly alleviate the pain. i have a rheumatology appointment in february, which took years of mentioning my back, bone, and joint pains to my c.f. doctor to finally get something done because the doctors basically thought i was lying about being in pain(we've been mentioning the hives since they first appeared and doctors either ignore it or tell us they have no idea). if anyone has helpful advice or has had their similar symptoms diagnosed, i would appreciate the input and to be able to sort of us their diagnosis as a spring board and a comparison to mine when/if any of my pains, aches, etc. i have are diagnosed in february. thank you, taylor.