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Jade

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Great question,

Would I die for a loved one is a hard thing to answer. I would say <i>no</i> but there's a reason for it. I can't conceive a scenario where actually dying would help them. Unless were talking about giving up vital organs for donation when your still alive. More than likely dying would worsen the problem at hand.
Taking a bullet instance, if that person were about to be shot then all you would be doing is taking one or two of possibly 15 rounds. It would serve the other person better to fight back and if needed put yourself between them and the bullets. If you have to die then do as much damage as possible<img src="i/expressions/devil.gif" border="0">.....take those baddies down with you.

Would I live for someone who has passed? Thats definitly a good subject to talk about ahead time. Tell you truth if I had someone I cared that much for I would probably follow right behind'em<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif" border="0">. However, if I was normal and healthy then <i>yes</i>. But I'm not, so I would hope that person wouldn't ask me to endure any more than they could if the tables were turned.
 
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Jade

Guest
Great question,

Would I die for a loved one is a hard thing to answer. I would say <i>no</i> but there's a reason for it. I can't conceive a scenario where actually dying would help them. Unless were talking about giving up vital organs for donation when your still alive. More than likely dying would worsen the problem at hand.
Taking a bullet instance, if that person were about to be shot then all you would be doing is taking one or two of possibly 15 rounds. It would serve the other person better to fight back and if needed put yourself between them and the bullets. If you have to die then do as much damage as possible<img src="i/expressions/devil.gif" border="0">.....take those baddies down with you.

Would I live for someone who has passed? Thats definitly a good subject to talk about ahead time. Tell you truth if I had someone I cared that much for I would probably follow right behind'em<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif" border="0">. However, if I was normal and healthy then <i>yes</i>. But I'm not, so I would hope that person wouldn't ask me to endure any more than they could if the tables were turned.
 
J

Jade

Guest
Great question,

Would I die for a loved one is a hard thing to answer. I would say <i>no</i> but there's a reason for it. I can't conceive a scenario where actually dying would help them. Unless were talking about giving up vital organs for donation when your still alive. More than likely dying would worsen the problem at hand.
Taking a bullet instance, if that person were about to be shot then all you would be doing is taking one or two of possibly 15 rounds. It would serve the other person better to fight back and if needed put yourself between them and the bullets. If you have to die then do as much damage as possible<img src="i/expressions/devil.gif" border="0">.....take those baddies down with you.

Would I live for someone who has passed? Thats definitly a good subject to talk about ahead time. Tell you truth if I had someone I cared that much for I would probably follow right behind'em<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif" border="0">. However, if I was normal and healthy then <i>yes</i>. But I'm not, so I would hope that person wouldn't ask me to endure any more than they could if the tables were turned.
 

perky79

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>kayleesgrandma</b></i>

Brandon--

1. Turn (enable) on your pm.

2. Get a blog--please!



You have a very interesting question there..."Would you LIVE for a deceased loved one?" Something you know you should do, but sometimes forget in the midst of your grief. Gave me pause for thought. I think I didn't so much LIVE after my husband died so young in a motorcycle accident, but EXISTED. Eventually I learned to live again, but it was a while, as the numbness slowly wore off. I know my Tom would've wanted me to have a life, and so I did, but I have never forgotten him...



Now--are you up to making a blog telling us about Debbie's service, since you was there? If it's too much, I understand...I'm just glad you were able to make it. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif" border="0"></end quote></div>


Ok, so I enabled pm's. I must have disabled it in a drunken stupor some night. Yeah I'll create a new blog and tell you all about the service. Just give me some time.....
 

perky79

New member
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>kayleesgrandma</b></i>

Brandon--

1. Turn (enable) on your pm.

2. Get a blog--please!



You have a very interesting question there..."Would you LIVE for a deceased loved one?" Something you know you should do, but sometimes forget in the midst of your grief. Gave me pause for thought. I think I didn't so much LIVE after my husband died so young in a motorcycle accident, but EXISTED. Eventually I learned to live again, but it was a while, as the numbness slowly wore off. I know my Tom would've wanted me to have a life, and so I did, but I have never forgotten him...



Now--are you up to making a blog telling us about Debbie's service, since you was there? If it's too much, I understand...I'm just glad you were able to make it. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif" border="0"></end quote></div>


Ok, so I enabled pm's. I must have disabled it in a drunken stupor some night. Yeah I'll create a new blog and tell you all about the service. Just give me some time.....
 

perky79

New member
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>kayleesgrandma</b></i>

Brandon--

1. Turn (enable) on your pm.

2. Get a blog--please!



You have a very interesting question there..."Would you LIVE for a deceased loved one?" Something you know you should do, but sometimes forget in the midst of your grief. Gave me pause for thought. I think I didn't so much LIVE after my husband died so young in a motorcycle accident, but EXISTED. Eventually I learned to live again, but it was a while, as the numbness slowly wore off. I know my Tom would've wanted me to have a life, and so I did, but I have never forgotten him...



Now--are you up to making a blog telling us about Debbie's service, since you was there? If it's too much, I understand...I'm just glad you were able to make it. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif" border="0"></end quote></div>


Ok, so I enabled pm's. I must have disabled it in a drunken stupor some night. Yeah I'll create a new blog and tell you all about the service. Just give me some time.....
 

perky79

New member
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>kayleesgrandma</b></i>

Brandon--

1. Turn (enable) on your pm.

2. Get a blog--please!



You have a very interesting question there..."Would you LIVE for a deceased loved one?" Something you know you should do, but sometimes forget in the midst of your grief. Gave me pause for thought. I think I didn't so much LIVE after my husband died so young in a motorcycle accident, but EXISTED. Eventually I learned to live again, but it was a while, as the numbness slowly wore off. I know my Tom would've wanted me to have a life, and so I did, but I have never forgotten him...



Now--are you up to making a blog telling us about Debbie's service, since you was there? If it's too much, I understand...I'm just glad you were able to make it. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif" border="0"></end quote>


Ok, so I enabled pm's. I must have disabled it in a drunken stupor some night. Yeah I'll create a new blog and tell you all about the service. Just give me some time.....
 

perky79

New member
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>kayleesgrandma</b></i>

Brandon--

1. Turn (enable) on your pm.

2. Get a blog--please!



You have a very interesting question there..."Would you LIVE for a deceased loved one?" Something you know you should do, but sometimes forget in the midst of your grief. Gave me pause for thought. I think I didn't so much LIVE after my husband died so young in a motorcycle accident, but EXISTED. Eventually I learned to live again, but it was a while, as the numbness slowly wore off. I know my Tom would've wanted me to have a life, and so I did, but I have never forgotten him...



Now--are you up to making a blog telling us about Debbie's service, since you was there? If it's too much, I understand...I'm just glad you were able to make it. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif" border="0"></end quote>


Ok, so I enabled pm's. I must have disabled it in a drunken stupor some night. Yeah I'll create a new blog and tell you all about the service. Just give me some time.....
 

coltsfan715

New member
This is a really good post.
My answer is yes to all of the above.

If I were ever in a situation that my life had to be traded in a sense for the life of another I would do it. Though I will admit there are very few people I would make that sacrifice for.

As for living for someone who is dead. I have done this in a way since I was 8 to now. There have been many times throughout my life with CF that I reached a breaking point. A point where I could have easily just laid it to rest. Be it that I was tired, exhausted, sick from coughing hacking and fighting my own body - I thought about quitting alot. Then I thougt about my friends that passed - either from CF or nonCFers that died from other things. I thought to myself they never just gave up, they did succumb to this or to whatever other trauma, but they fought it all the way. I can't just lay this fight down now, without giving it another go - and another - and another. I did things I may not have done otherwise because I knew that they never got the chance, I went places and tried things and met people they never go to go, do and meet.

It is kind of like when a parent tries living through their child - they push things on them that the child might not otherwise do. Not that things are being pushed on us - but you have a thought or an urge that you might not have otherwise had if that person were still around.

i.e - I bought a cute pair of shoes today. I didn't need them but I had a gift card and I thought hmmm. Shoes would be nice - the are cute I think. If not for Debbie I probably wouldn't have entered the shoes section, but hey I got a pait for me ... and her I just hopes she likes them. Also to add when I went to the hospital today for a test all the ladies were doing was talking about shoes - Minolos (sp?) and such. I just smiled thinking yeah that is sooo Debbie lol.

Love Linds
 

coltsfan715

New member
This is a really good post.
My answer is yes to all of the above.

If I were ever in a situation that my life had to be traded in a sense for the life of another I would do it. Though I will admit there are very few people I would make that sacrifice for.

As for living for someone who is dead. I have done this in a way since I was 8 to now. There have been many times throughout my life with CF that I reached a breaking point. A point where I could have easily just laid it to rest. Be it that I was tired, exhausted, sick from coughing hacking and fighting my own body - I thought about quitting alot. Then I thougt about my friends that passed - either from CF or nonCFers that died from other things. I thought to myself they never just gave up, they did succumb to this or to whatever other trauma, but they fought it all the way. I can't just lay this fight down now, without giving it another go - and another - and another. I did things I may not have done otherwise because I knew that they never got the chance, I went places and tried things and met people they never go to go, do and meet.

It is kind of like when a parent tries living through their child - they push things on them that the child might not otherwise do. Not that things are being pushed on us - but you have a thought or an urge that you might not have otherwise had if that person were still around.

i.e - I bought a cute pair of shoes today. I didn't need them but I had a gift card and I thought hmmm. Shoes would be nice - the are cute I think. If not for Debbie I probably wouldn't have entered the shoes section, but hey I got a pait for me ... and her I just hopes she likes them. Also to add when I went to the hospital today for a test all the ladies were doing was talking about shoes - Minolos (sp?) and such. I just smiled thinking yeah that is sooo Debbie lol.

Love Linds
 

coltsfan715

New member
This is a really good post.
My answer is yes to all of the above.

If I were ever in a situation that my life had to be traded in a sense for the life of another I would do it. Though I will admit there are very few people I would make that sacrifice for.

As for living for someone who is dead. I have done this in a way since I was 8 to now. There have been many times throughout my life with CF that I reached a breaking point. A point where I could have easily just laid it to rest. Be it that I was tired, exhausted, sick from coughing hacking and fighting my own body - I thought about quitting alot. Then I thougt about my friends that passed - either from CF or nonCFers that died from other things. I thought to myself they never just gave up, they did succumb to this or to whatever other trauma, but they fought it all the way. I can't just lay this fight down now, without giving it another go - and another - and another. I did things I may not have done otherwise because I knew that they never got the chance, I went places and tried things and met people they never go to go, do and meet.

It is kind of like when a parent tries living through their child - they push things on them that the child might not otherwise do. Not that things are being pushed on us - but you have a thought or an urge that you might not have otherwise had if that person were still around.

i.e - I bought a cute pair of shoes today. I didn't need them but I had a gift card and I thought hmmm. Shoes would be nice - the are cute I think. If not for Debbie I probably wouldn't have entered the shoes section, but hey I got a pait for me ... and her I just hopes she likes them. Also to add when I went to the hospital today for a test all the ladies were doing was talking about shoes - Minolos (sp?) and such. I just smiled thinking yeah that is sooo Debbie lol.

Love Linds
 

coltsfan715

New member
This is a really good post.
My answer is yes to all of the above.

If I were ever in a situation that my life had to be traded in a sense for the life of another I would do it. Though I will admit there are very few people I would make that sacrifice for.

As for living for someone who is dead. I have done this in a way since I was 8 to now. There have been many times throughout my life with CF that I reached a breaking point. A point where I could have easily just laid it to rest. Be it that I was tired, exhausted, sick from coughing hacking and fighting my own body - I thought about quitting alot. Then I thougt about my friends that passed - either from CF or nonCFers that died from other things. I thought to myself they never just gave up, they did succumb to this or to whatever other trauma, but they fought it all the way. I can't just lay this fight down now, without giving it another go - and another - and another. I did things I may not have done otherwise because I knew that they never got the chance, I went places and tried things and met people they never go to go, do and meet.

It is kind of like when a parent tries living through their child - they push things on them that the child might not otherwise do. Not that things are being pushed on us - but you have a thought or an urge that you might not have otherwise had if that person were still around.

i.e - I bought a cute pair of shoes today. I didn't need them but I had a gift card and I thought hmmm. Shoes would be nice - the are cute I think. If not for Debbie I probably wouldn't have entered the shoes section, but hey I got a pait for me ... and her I just hopes she likes them. Also to add when I went to the hospital today for a test all the ladies were doing was talking about shoes - Minolos (sp?) and such. I just smiled thinking yeah that is sooo Debbie lol.

Love Linds
 

coltsfan715

New member
This is a really good post.
My answer is yes to all of the above.

If I were ever in a situation that my life had to be traded in a sense for the life of another I would do it. Though I will admit there are very few people I would make that sacrifice for.

As for living for someone who is dead. I have done this in a way since I was 8 to now. There have been many times throughout my life with CF that I reached a breaking point. A point where I could have easily just laid it to rest. Be it that I was tired, exhausted, sick from coughing hacking and fighting my own body - I thought about quitting alot. Then I thougt about my friends that passed - either from CF or nonCFers that died from other things. I thought to myself they never just gave up, they did succumb to this or to whatever other trauma, but they fought it all the way. I can't just lay this fight down now, without giving it another go - and another - and another. I did things I may not have done otherwise because I knew that they never got the chance, I went places and tried things and met people they never go to go, do and meet.

It is kind of like when a parent tries living through their child - they push things on them that the child might not otherwise do. Not that things are being pushed on us - but you have a thought or an urge that you might not have otherwise had if that person were still around.

i.e - I bought a cute pair of shoes today. I didn't need them but I had a gift card and I thought hmmm. Shoes would be nice - the are cute I think. If not for Debbie I probably wouldn't have entered the shoes section, but hey I got a pait for me ... and her I just hopes she likes them. Also to add when I went to the hospital today for a test all the ladies were doing was talking about shoes - Minolos (sp?) and such. I just smiled thinking yeah that is sooo Debbie lol.

Love Linds
 
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65rosessamurai

Guest
With having a little bit of time to think about this, my answer seems to be the same as I thought it was earlier, I just softened it a little.
In regards to "dying for someone", it would all depend on the circumstances, and whether actually "dying" for them would still protect them in the future (This still remains the fact that it is for a loved one). Perhaps in this case it would more like saying I'd put myself in harms way to protect the ones I love, but again, it all depends on the circumstances. I don't think I'd ever be asked to donate a kidney, or something where I'd still have one organ left, but if it were the situation where giving blood to save the life of a loved one would risk my life, I may do it, anyway. If some burglar, or "threat" entered my domain and put a life-threatening situation in front of me, I'd put myself in "harm's way", but wouldn't let myself be the one getting killed over it if I could help it.
A synopsis of an old quote from General MacArthur, "Don't die for your country, let the 'enemy' die for theirs" would be apropriate for someone threatening you or your loved one's life.
In regards to "living for someone", I would say no I wouldn't, because I would rather live on my own terms, for my ownself, and not feel burdened by the thought of whether my way of living would satisfy their "soul". I've known many loved ones who've passed before me, some were very sad to see go, some didn't have too much effect on me, personally. The ones that were very sad to see go, I never thought to "live for them", but rather hope they would "look over me" as I live on.
 
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65rosessamurai

Guest
With having a little bit of time to think about this, my answer seems to be the same as I thought it was earlier, I just softened it a little.
In regards to "dying for someone", it would all depend on the circumstances, and whether actually "dying" for them would still protect them in the future (This still remains the fact that it is for a loved one). Perhaps in this case it would more like saying I'd put myself in harms way to protect the ones I love, but again, it all depends on the circumstances. I don't think I'd ever be asked to donate a kidney, or something where I'd still have one organ left, but if it were the situation where giving blood to save the life of a loved one would risk my life, I may do it, anyway. If some burglar, or "threat" entered my domain and put a life-threatening situation in front of me, I'd put myself in "harm's way", but wouldn't let myself be the one getting killed over it if I could help it.
A synopsis of an old quote from General MacArthur, "Don't die for your country, let the 'enemy' die for theirs" would be apropriate for someone threatening you or your loved one's life.
In regards to "living for someone", I would say no I wouldn't, because I would rather live on my own terms, for my ownself, and not feel burdened by the thought of whether my way of living would satisfy their "soul". I've known many loved ones who've passed before me, some were very sad to see go, some didn't have too much effect on me, personally. The ones that were very sad to see go, I never thought to "live for them", but rather hope they would "look over me" as I live on.
 
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