I want children!

anonymous

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Here's my speal. Just remember that that cute baby stage passes rather quickly, then they are on the move, into everything with you following close behind to protect them from getting into stuff that may harm them and then eventually they start to get their own opinion and then, world watch out!!! Before long, you've got a middle schooler/high schooler on your hands and I don't have to remind you what those years are about.
Throw in the fact that your health may or may not be the best, if you're here at all during those years, and that may be what the doctor is talking about.
Not something to be taken lightly, but if it's really, really what you want (not just a baby, but ALL stages of a child) and you're healthy enough then it will work out somehow.
 

anonymous

New member
Here's my speal. Just remember that that cute baby stage passes rather quickly, then they are on the move, into everything with you following close behind to protect them from getting into stuff that may harm them and then eventually they start to get their own opinion and then, world watch out!!! Before long, you've got a middle schooler/high schooler on your hands and I don't have to remind you what those years are about.
Throw in the fact that your health may or may not be the best, if you're here at all during those years, and that may be what the doctor is talking about.
Not something to be taken lightly, but if it's really, really what you want (not just a baby, but ALL stages of a child) and you're healthy enough then it will work out somehow.
 

HollyCatheryn

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I wanted to pop in here and offer some hard facts. Check out <A href="http://www.geocities.com/MurrensNatureMama">www.geocities.com/MurrensNatureMama</A> for the latest research and information on fertility, pregnancy, childbirth, breastfeeding and staying healthy as a parent with CF. This is especially for Coltsfan715. The current research states that except for those with B. Cepacia, pregnancy does not alter the prior course of the disease. This means, if you are stable going into pregnancy, you will stay stable. If you are in a decline, you will continue to decline. If you are in an improvment, you will continue to improve. If you have special concerns about pregnancy, like CFRD, check the above website's page "Special Concerns of Pregnancy".I personally have been healthier since my daughter's birth. I am sick much less often. My PFTs are slightly lower (high 80s-low 90s from high 90s), but my actual health has improved. Better immune system, PFTs are stable (not continuing to decline). My pregnancy was incredibly healthy and the birth as well. I actually had my daughter at home with a midwife. I was able to breastfeed successfully - exclusively for 13 months and then I continued to nurse her for quite a bit longer. Yes, you do need to weigh your condition with your convictions/desires and your doctors' input. Make sure you do check out the website and get the facts before you resign yourself to childlessness. Keep in mind that there are lots of choices you can make during pregnancy, birth and as a parent that can help you to be healthier than others. Because many of us will end up with transplants later in life, we have to think about what that will do to us. The anti-rejection drugs have cancer-causing side effects. So, in some cases, pregnancy, birth and breastfeeding, by reducing your risk for cancer can help you be healthier post-transplant. There are numerous parents with CF at my clinic (moms and dads). One mom has four children (one set of twins) and is very healthy - I've actually never gotten to meet her because her clinic visits are infrequent and her hospitalizations few. When I was pregnant, it was at a different clinic and I was the first CF pregnancy they'd ever dealt with. I had to do my own research and call the shots because they were flying blind. Even at my current clinic, it is surprising how often they are not up on the very latest - especially regarding parenthood. Think about it, with all of their responsibilities they have little time to sit down and research a particular situation in depth for a single patient. If you want to get all the info and weigh your specific situation, you have to do it. By all means, gather information, print it off and take it to your doctor to review. But, ultimately it is you who is responsible for your choices and your health. Doctors are mearly consultants, guides, advisors. Feel free to email me if you have any questions.
 

HollyCatheryn

New member
I wanted to pop in here and offer some hard facts. Check out <A href="http://www.geocities.com/MurrensNatureMama">www.geocities.com/MurrensNatureMama</A> for the latest research and information on fertility, pregnancy, childbirth, breastfeeding and staying healthy as a parent with CF. This is especially for Coltsfan715. The current research states that except for those with B. Cepacia, pregnancy does not alter the prior course of the disease. This means, if you are stable going into pregnancy, you will stay stable. If you are in a decline, you will continue to decline. If you are in an improvment, you will continue to improve. If you have special concerns about pregnancy, like CFRD, check the above website's page "Special Concerns of Pregnancy".I personally have been healthier since my daughter's birth. I am sick much less often. My PFTs are slightly lower (high 80s-low 90s from high 90s), but my actual health has improved. Better immune system, PFTs are stable (not continuing to decline). My pregnancy was incredibly healthy and the birth as well. I actually had my daughter at home with a midwife. I was able to breastfeed successfully - exclusively for 13 months and then I continued to nurse her for quite a bit longer. Yes, you do need to weigh your condition with your convictions/desires and your doctors' input. Make sure you do check out the website and get the facts before you resign yourself to childlessness. Keep in mind that there are lots of choices you can make during pregnancy, birth and as a parent that can help you to be healthier than others. Because many of us will end up with transplants later in life, we have to think about what that will do to us. The anti-rejection drugs have cancer-causing side effects. So, in some cases, pregnancy, birth and breastfeeding, by reducing your risk for cancer can help you be healthier post-transplant. There are numerous parents with CF at my clinic (moms and dads). One mom has four children (one set of twins) and is very healthy - I've actually never gotten to meet her because her clinic visits are infrequent and her hospitalizations few. When I was pregnant, it was at a different clinic and I was the first CF pregnancy they'd ever dealt with. I had to do my own research and call the shots because they were flying blind. Even at my current clinic, it is surprising how often they are not up on the very latest - especially regarding parenthood. Think about it, with all of their responsibilities they have little time to sit down and research a particular situation in depth for a single patient. If you want to get all the info and weigh your specific situation, you have to do it. By all means, gather information, print it off and take it to your doctor to review. But, ultimately it is you who is responsible for your choices and your health. Doctors are mearly consultants, guides, advisors. Feel free to email me if you have any questions.
 

coltsfan715

New member
Holly, that is great that you were able to post updated info. That is definitely not the info that I came across when I was looking into all of that a few years ago. Once I talked to my docs got their opinions and saw some different studies or obervations made (at the time) and made the decision that I thought was best for me I haven't looked into it since. I just remembered all of the stuff that I read and mentioned it because it is definitely worth researching if you are considering getting pregnant. The info is out there for you if you need or are looking for it.
Like so many have said it is your decision to make and no one can make it but you (Amanda). I personally would just ask my doc why he does/doesn't think it is a good idea. I know with my doc if I ask up front he will tell me. Hopefully your doc or docs would do the same and that could give you a better idea of where they are coming from when they recommend against getting pregnant.
There is no telling why some docs say one thing and some say another ya know. Different schools different methods who knows.

Either way as said Best of Luck with it and I do hope that everything works out.
Best of Luck to your friend also.

Lindsey
 

coltsfan715

New member
Holly, that is great that you were able to post updated info. That is definitely not the info that I came across when I was looking into all of that a few years ago. Once I talked to my docs got their opinions and saw some different studies or obervations made (at the time) and made the decision that I thought was best for me I haven't looked into it since. I just remembered all of the stuff that I read and mentioned it because it is definitely worth researching if you are considering getting pregnant. The info is out there for you if you need or are looking for it.
Like so many have said it is your decision to make and no one can make it but you (Amanda). I personally would just ask my doc why he does/doesn't think it is a good idea. I know with my doc if I ask up front he will tell me. Hopefully your doc or docs would do the same and that could give you a better idea of where they are coming from when they recommend against getting pregnant.
There is no telling why some docs say one thing and some say another ya know. Different schools different methods who knows.

Either way as said Best of Luck with it and I do hope that everything works out.
Best of Luck to your friend also.

Lindsey
 

RainbowBubblez

New member
Thank you everyone & Holly and Lindsey I will definitly be looking into the site you suggested. My Doc is a wonderful doctor he says of course when I am stable it is the best time to get pregnant. He is just very hard to talk to, he likes things to come as they come. I look like I'm 15 but I dont act like it and I hate when people (doc's & social workers) judge me by how tiny I am???? It is like he just doesnt understand I want to get my life on the road and talking about it with him really is not getting me anywhere. So I guess when the time is right I will be pregnany. Reading what everyone has written has really made me think esp when Jazzy's mom wrote about the other CFer that wasn't doing so well. After she gave birth she died a month later. I know I'm definitly not in that situation if I was to be pregnant right now. But it sure worries me about my CF girlfriend in Vancouver and with how sick she is... That is stuff I cant stress over cuz I have no control. Just hope for the best I guess. Thank you<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

Is there anyone out there with low PFT's and low weight that has had children and bounced back?
 

RainbowBubblez

New member
Thank you everyone & Holly and Lindsey I will definitly be looking into the site you suggested. My Doc is a wonderful doctor he says of course when I am stable it is the best time to get pregnant. He is just very hard to talk to, he likes things to come as they come. I look like I'm 15 but I dont act like it and I hate when people (doc's & social workers) judge me by how tiny I am???? It is like he just doesnt understand I want to get my life on the road and talking about it with him really is not getting me anywhere. So I guess when the time is right I will be pregnany. Reading what everyone has written has really made me think esp when Jazzy's mom wrote about the other CFer that wasn't doing so well. After she gave birth she died a month later. I know I'm definitly not in that situation if I was to be pregnant right now. But it sure worries me about my CF girlfriend in Vancouver and with how sick she is... That is stuff I cant stress over cuz I have no control. Just hope for the best I guess. Thank you<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

Is there anyone out there with low PFT's and low weight that has had children and bounced back?
 

anonymous

New member
Hello,

I too would really love to be a mother... whether that means biologically or through the gift of adoption. We have looked into surrogacy, and actuallly had an appt. set up to start it with my sister-in-law, but our finances just would not permit that route.
I would like to say that even when I was in the 57% range, my doctors knew how badly I wanted to start a family, took into account my support system, finances, weight, strength, and how well I took care of myself (treatments, working out, etc.).... they gave me a unanimous thumbs up! It depends on SOOOO many things! I don't think there is one particular predictor as to whether you will have a "happy, healthy" pregnancy, and whether you will be a "happy, healthy" mother. Depending soley on FEV1 may not be a great indicator (as I was told by my docs)... They had me do an entire physical work-up (including heart ECHO) and meet with the genetic counselor and high-risk obgyn just to make sure I was "ok". Once I was given the go-ahead, we tried for awhile, but decided to hold off as we were moving and other things had come up in my health that were of concern to me. That being said, I still go back and forth as to how to have a child.... but, I also feel the instinct to be a mother is very strong. I am determined that I will be a mother one way or another.

I have visited Holly Cathryn's site and was AMAZED at the HUGE amount of information she has put together! I was shocked at some of the newer research with CF and pregnancy. Most of it was VERY positive. And, the fact that a pregnancy, in general, is not an indicator of declining health, was VERY optimistic. I also found her personal story uplifting and informative.

I think as women who would like to become mothers, we have some very real and personal fears and expectations about carrying a baby as well as bringing up a child. We have added burdens that non-cfer's simply don't have. Not only with regard to "can I carry a baby and raise it?", but also with regard to getting pregnant in the first place. Some women have a tough time with this due to thicker cervical mucus. With that said, I recently started an msn group that is open to women who are mothers or those who would like to be. We will be addressing these very personal concerns and experiences. I invite you to visit: <a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://groups.msn.com/CFandmotherhood">CF and Motherhood</a>

Sonia
28 w/ CF and CFRD
 

anonymous

New member
Hello,

I too would really love to be a mother... whether that means biologically or through the gift of adoption. We have looked into surrogacy, and actuallly had an appt. set up to start it with my sister-in-law, but our finances just would not permit that route.
I would like to say that even when I was in the 57% range, my doctors knew how badly I wanted to start a family, took into account my support system, finances, weight, strength, and how well I took care of myself (treatments, working out, etc.).... they gave me a unanimous thumbs up! It depends on SOOOO many things! I don't think there is one particular predictor as to whether you will have a "happy, healthy" pregnancy, and whether you will be a "happy, healthy" mother. Depending soley on FEV1 may not be a great indicator (as I was told by my docs)... They had me do an entire physical work-up (including heart ECHO) and meet with the genetic counselor and high-risk obgyn just to make sure I was "ok". Once I was given the go-ahead, we tried for awhile, but decided to hold off as we were moving and other things had come up in my health that were of concern to me. That being said, I still go back and forth as to how to have a child.... but, I also feel the instinct to be a mother is very strong. I am determined that I will be a mother one way or another.

I have visited Holly Cathryn's site and was AMAZED at the HUGE amount of information she has put together! I was shocked at some of the newer research with CF and pregnancy. Most of it was VERY positive. And, the fact that a pregnancy, in general, is not an indicator of declining health, was VERY optimistic. I also found her personal story uplifting and informative.

I think as women who would like to become mothers, we have some very real and personal fears and expectations about carrying a baby as well as bringing up a child. We have added burdens that non-cfer's simply don't have. Not only with regard to "can I carry a baby and raise it?", but also with regard to getting pregnant in the first place. Some women have a tough time with this due to thicker cervical mucus. With that said, I recently started an msn group that is open to women who are mothers or those who would like to be. We will be addressing these very personal concerns and experiences. I invite you to visit: <a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://groups.msn.com/CFandmotherhood">CF and Motherhood</a>

Sonia
28 w/ CF and CFRD
 
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