Ideal Climate?

MissMe · Jun 4, 2011

Hi! I'm new on this forum and I'm glad to see this topic being discussed here. I live in Stockholm (Sweden) and I suffer a lot in the wintertime. I produce much more mucus and need much more IV antibiotics in the winter time, as compared to the summer time. The fluctuations in my health condition are so big I am actually considering moving to the south of France, in order to skip the long, cold and dark Swedish winters. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-blush.gif" border="0">ffice<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-blush.gif" border="0">ffice" /><o<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif" border="0">></o<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif" border="0">>
This last year has been very significant in this matter: last summer I went to Spain and walked the "Camino de Santiago" (450 kilometers!) in extreme heat. I never thought I would do more than a week before getting ill, but I stayed and walked for 4 weeks! And I have never felt better! I had almost no mucus! And I did my nebs only once a week (usually it's 4-5 times a week). (The salt and water loss was easily compensated with fluid replacement products in the large amounts of water I drank.) But as soon as autumn came I got sick and my mucus production never seem to halt, no matter how much I spit out. And it continued throughout the whole winter. My doctor couldn't give me a logical explanation, (in my opinion). She just concluded: "well you live here now". Some people have suggested that it is physical exercise that makes the difference. It is true this is important and that it makes a difference. But In the summer time I don't need much exercise, there is so little mucus. In the winter time I can only keep up with exercise for maximum two weeks before I get really ill again. <o<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif" border="0">></o<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif" border="0">>
I have thought a lot about this last year's experiences and the same issues discussed above and have come to a preliminary (but somewhat complex) "conclusion": <o<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif" border="0">></o<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif" border="0">>
For asthmatic persons fresh air is necessary, it doesn't have to be cold air. I recently discussed this with an asthmatic person (not cf) who had the same craving for fresh air, feeling easily suffocated in closed areas. I always feel sick and tired after a journey in a car, airplane, bus or train whit AC's recycling the air (or no AC). In the summer time, I spend most of my time outdoors and in the winter time most of the time indoors. <o<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif" border="0">></o<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif" border="0">>
Going for a walk in the winter time doesn't seem to help though, which leads to my second theory; the cold weather is bad for some reason. Infections, i.e. bacteria seem to thrive in cold weather. Maybe this is why really hot saunas usually make me feel so good . Often, going to the sauna is the simplest, fast cure when I'm coming down with a cold. <o<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif" border="0">></o<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif" border="0">>
Air pollution is yet another problem; car pollution as well as dust, give me both asthma and ugly mucus. <o<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif" border="0">></o<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif" border="0">>
As for dry or humid air, I experience the same thing described by others; both extremely hot and cold dry air makes me asthmatic, as well as very humid air. But this is only if I do tough exercise like running. But when it comes to loosening the mucus I believe humid air might be better. Just remember the "tent" Cf-ers slept in, during the -70ies and -80ties. When we do our nebs it's efficient partly because it humidifies the air in the lungs. As for salty air by the sea, I believe the beneficial effects on the lungs has already been stated by scientists. (Australian surfers and old times' salt cave workers.)<o<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif" border="0">></o<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif" border="0">>
My last theory is that the sun is essential in feeling god and in sustaining a god immune system. Due to lack of sun I suffer from Vitamin-D insufficiency. Research is on the way suggesting vitamin D could play a key role in the immune system. Stockholm is paradise in the summer and hell in the winter.<o<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif" border="0">></o<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif" border="0">>
Sorry for my long, long "exposé" here! <o<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif" border="0">></o<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif" border="0">>

Twistofchaos · Jun 5, 2011

Interesting. For me winters, and especially the cold and somewhat dry days are great.
 
I think there's also a psychological element to this. 
 
I hate summers, the heat, the long days, the sun, the loud obnoxious people, the humidity (I live in the Netherlands) , I can't do much and I get sick a lot. 
 
I love winters, the dark and long nights, rain, storm, iceskating as far as I still can, walking in the snow with all the loud obnoxious people indoors complaining about the cold, I feel much better. I can exercise much better in winter, a lot of advantages for me.

Twistofchaos · Jun 5, 2011

Interesting. For me winters, and especially the cold and somewhat dry days are great.

I think there's also a psychological element to this. 

I hate summers, the heat, the long days, the sun, the loud obnoxious people, the humidity (I live in the Netherlands) , I can't do much and I get sick a lot. 

I love winters, the dark and long nights, rain, storm, iceskating as far as I still can, walking in the snow with all the loud obnoxious people indoors complaining about the cold, I feel much better. I can exercise much better in winter, a lot of advantages for me.

Twistofchaos · Jun 5, 2011

Interesting. For me winters, and especially the cold and somewhat dry days are great.

I think there's also a psychological element to this. 

I hate summers, the heat, the long days, the sun, the loud obnoxious people, the humidity (I live in the Netherlands) , I can't do much and I get sick a lot. 

I love winters, the dark and long nights, rain, storm, iceskating as far as I still can, walking in the snow with all the loud obnoxious people indoors complaining about the cold, I feel much better. I can exercise much better in winter, a lot of advantages for me.

LisaGreene · Jun 5, 2011

I heard that there was some research done on this and that it was presented at the NACFC last year. But I can't find it. Word of mouth says that the research showed colder climates are better. But reading all of your opinions, it seems like it's so individual. I wish there was a way to find that research... I've tried online.....

LisaGreene · Jun 5, 2011

I heard that there was some research done on this and that it was presented at the NACFC last year. But I can't find it. Word of mouth says that the research showed colder climates are better. But reading all of your opinions, it seems like it's so individual. I wish there was a way to find that research... I've tried online.....

LisaGreene · Jun 5, 2011

I heard that there was some research done on this and that it was presented at the NACFC last year. But I can't find it. Word of mouth says that the research showed colder climates are better. But reading all of your opinions, it seems like it's so individual. I wish there was a way to find that research... I've tried online.....

icefisherman · Jun 7, 2011

If there is one thing i have learned from this site it is that cf is different for everyone. I can say that i do better in cold, but any temp change brings on a coughing fit. I have been out trapping and icefishing in -20f and felt great, and I work in 120f at my work in the summer. I can tell you that the heat wears me out way more. I spent last thursday and friday throwing up all day on 12 hour shifts. Cold weather i cough a lot but it doesn't slow me down. But like i said its different for everyone. If i walk out into cold weather from a warm room i'm in a coughing fit, and if I walk out into hot weather from air conditioning im in a coughing fit. take it for what it is. Bottom line we all know ourselves more than any doctor will know our bodies. listen to what your body tells you and have your doctor take notes.
Ben

icefisherman · Jun 7, 2011

If there is one thing i have learned from this site it is that cf is different for everyone. I can say that i do better in cold, but any temp change brings on a coughing fit. I have been out trapping and icefishing in -20f and felt great, and I work in 120f at my work in the summer. I can tell you that the heat wears me out way more. I spent last thursday and friday throwing up all day on 12 hour shifts. Cold weather i cough a lot but it doesn't slow me down. But like i said its different for everyone. If i walk out into cold weather from a warm room i'm in a coughing fit, and if I walk out into hot weather from air conditioning im in a coughing fit. take it for what it is. Bottom line we all know ourselves more than any doctor will know our bodies. listen to what your body tells you and have your doctor take notes.
Ben

icefisherman · Jun 7, 2011

If there is one thing i have learned from this site it is that cf is different for everyone. I can say that i do better in cold, but any temp change brings on a coughing fit. I have been out trapping and icefishing in -20f and felt great, and I work in 120f at my work in the summer. I can tell you that the heat wears me out way more. I spent last thursday and friday throwing up all day on 12 hour shifts. Cold weather i cough a lot but it doesn't slow me down. But like i said its different for everyone. If i walk out into cold weather from a warm room i'm in a coughing fit, and if I walk out into hot weather from air conditioning im in a coughing fit. take it for what it is. Bottom line we all know ourselves more than any doctor will know our bodies. listen to what your body tells you and have your doctor take notes.
Ben

iwantmypup · Jun 13, 2011

I definitely think it's different for everyone. I live in Southern California, so it definitely is warm here and when it gets cold it's not TOO cold. The ideal for me is 70s. It gets hot in the summer and it's dry for the most part, and on days like those I'm just exhausted. I like warm weather better than cold because it also let's me go outside, and I'll go for a walk or a run.
I go to Alaska often and I went this last Christmas and it was bad. Just freezing and so dry, but since I don't use humidifiers I was miserable.
But like I said, for me, overall I like warmer weather, because I exercise better and I don't cough as much.

iwantmypup · Jun 13, 2011

I definitely think it's different for everyone. I live in Southern California, so it definitely is warm here and when it gets cold it's not TOO cold. The ideal for me is 70s. It gets hot in the summer and it's dry for the most part, and on days like those I'm just exhausted. I like warm weather better than cold because it also let's me go outside, and I'll go for a walk or a run.
I go to Alaska often and I went this last Christmas and it was bad. Just freezing and so dry, but since I don't use humidifiers I was miserable.
But like I said, for me, overall I like warmer weather, because I exercise better and I don't cough as much.

iwantmypup · Jun 13, 2011

I definitely think it's different for everyone. I live in Southern California, so it definitely is warm here and when it gets cold it's not TOO cold. The ideal for me is 70s. It gets hot in the summer and it's dry for the most part, and on days like those I'm just exhausted. I like warm weather better than cold because it also let's me go outside, and I'll go for a walk or a run.
 I go to Alaska often and I went this last Christmas and it was bad. Just freezing and so dry, but since I don't use humidifiers I was miserable.
 But like I said, for me, overall I like warmer weather, because I exercise better and I don't cough as much.

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