Increased cough

Jshet22

New member
Thank you Aboveallislove. You and your son are in my prayers also. Hope he gets back to his baseline fast and is back outside plsyibg with his friends. Take care
 

ToriMom

New member
I want to send my encouragement your way as well. My Autistic (now 20, no CF) son has an awful time whenever he gets a cough. It really bothers him, and I cannot imagine him being my CF child with his sensory issues. I have to second the opinion of LittleLab with the Tussionex. It's a real help on evenings when my daughter has an awful, insistent dry hack keeping her up half the night. She gets it from nasal drip among other problems...
Hugs,
Michelle
 

Jshet22

New member
Hey Torimom, small world, my son is 20 also. I am gonna have to check into that tussinex. May just be what we need. Sensory issued are the worst, but as you know, we find a way to deal. He is actually feeling a little better, so hopefully this finally passes. Thanks so much for your encouragement, it is greatly appreciated.
 

Jshet22

New member
Hey ToriMom. Thank you so much for asking. He has had an upper respitory thing going on for about a week. Today he started coughing up (sorry gross), thick gray, brown mucus. Not sure what that's about, but assuming Tobi is doing its job now. He goes for a repeat pft on Thursday, so hopefully his numbers are back up. I feel feeling pretty confident he will be back to his baseline.
how are your kids? Hope they are well and you all had a nice Easter.
 

Ratatosk

Administrator
Staff member
Have you increased the number of vest or CPT treatments you do a day? When ds develops a cough we increase vest treatments from 3 a day to 4 and sometimes do mini cpt treatments on problem areas.
 

Jshet22

New member
Yes. He had been doing 3-4 vest treatments a day with 4 albuterol treatments on top of regular Meds and now Tobi 2 x day. He finished another round of antibiotics just a little over a week ago. He isn't sick, just can't rid this congestion tests in his nose and I guess still some in his chest. I thought his chest was pretty clear since most of his coughing seemed to be coming from his upper respitory virus.
 

Ratatosk

Administrator
Staff member
I imagine he wouldn't be too thrilled about adding a sinus rinse into the mix. Ds likes to do it cuz it grosses me out and I dry heave.
 

Jshet22

New member
Oh there is no way we could do a sinus rinse with him without needing to be hold him down. The kid is so tiny, 80 lbs but has a strength beyond belief when he is afraid or doesn't want to do something. I bet they would be helpful, but are unfortunately impossible. He does seem to be improving so hopefully it continues. Hoping for pft improvement Thursday.
 

LittleLab4CF

Super Moderator
When I was at the age when my friends were having babies, I enjoyed the imagination and creativity of my friends, turned parents. When visiting a good friend who had a toddler, my first surprise was the banana she gave her boy. Seconds later I was wondering what happened to the banana. I really was concerned and tried to discover if he had dropped it or possibly was choking on it. She hadn't missed a beat. Yes, he ate it, at a rate I still haven't fully decided was for real.

Another friend was showing off her firstborn daughter, and her ability to smear and eat equal amounts​of a PB&J sandwich. She handed her daughter a fine wet cloth and we continued​ visiting. A few minutes later she exchanged the cloth and I realized that by handling the wet cloth, she was cleaning up impossibly small hands and her untouchable face. The baby was unaware that she was cleaning up, it was just what babies do.

For reasons I will never understand, when my little sister had a full snot locker before the concept of "blowing" her nose had been learned, my father had the unenviable job of clearing out her tiny nose with a bulb syringe. My mother couldn't stand the thought of doing it herself, and for a baby who saw me as her personal enemy, I was her second choice of nasal torturer. My father and I used to do it together, in part because it relieved mom of the duty and I was strong enough to hold her down.

He had coached me on sucking snot with a minimum of pain. I always squeezed​ the bulb well before popping the plastic tube of the device into a nostril, releasing the bulb just when the nostril was about to seal against the tapered tip, while simultaneously withdrawing the entire bulb syringe. Two goals of using the viscosity of the mucus to remove everything in one slick move just fast enough not to tug at the eardrums. I was amazed she submitted to my torture, Daddy had her absolute trust but I had to be called on the rare occasion to do it and she accepted this. One time I was holding her after a difficult cleaning, tears and bawling from the unpleasant experience, she thanked me. Wow!

She could be a serious handful when we had to get her primed to the idea of what we were going to do. Somehow she figured out how obeying "now hold still" was to her advantage but the struggle getting there would be a problem, especially when she couldn't associate breathing better with the torture.

The alternative that I can suggest is a personal steamer. One Christmas I got my mother a Sunbeam Facial Sauna. It's still available as I bought it some 52 years ago from Sunbeam and other manufacturers, not surprisingly at Walgreens. I'm not sure if this is better than a sinus rinse but I am guessing that he will find it soothing. I've seen TV ads for a personal steamer and it has the advantage of fitting sort of like a pediatric nebulizer "mask". Today I priced a personal medical steamer at a whopping $150 from Target, it's not cheap. I love the fact that the facial sauna warms the sinuses, outside and in, the entire face outline rests on a gasket. He might find some custom aroma therapy. Something to encourage smell, and inhaling through the nose, like vanilla and then something to encourage mucus production like camphor. I'm not an aroma therapy enthusiast or expert but I have worked with many methods of cleaning the nasal passages and I have used everything from mentholated petroleum jelly to my own concoction of an antibiotic rinse. CF almost always impacts the nasal passages because of the hyper-viscous mucus and its function of being a microbe trap. Avoiding sinus reconstruction surgery in future years may be impossible, but sinus cleaning is extremely important. Steam and stimulating mucus clearing is in my top 4 or 5 long term CF regiment​s. Done daily it reduces ENT infections​ as well as lung and stomach bugs.

Steam is going to be a great help, not as thorough as a sinus rinse but something he is probably will like. Even my friend with 2 autistic boys were users of the facial sauna.

LL

P.S. I'm happy to talk via PM, anytime.
 
Last edited:

Jshet22

New member
I am definetly going to look into the personal steamer. I think that would be something he would be willing to try. Thanks for the suggestion. On a good note his pft's are up. Not to his baseline, but up from prior to starting the Tobi. I guess Tobi did the trick. 28 day on/off schedule will not be an issue, he is already use to it. So it's been a good day. Thank you for offering that I can pm you anytime, I appreciate that very much.
 
Top