Indoor Waterparks

anonymous

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Hi my husbands brother has invited him to take our daughter (2wcf) to a nearby indoor waterpark over the weekend along with our 2 neices. They would be spending 2 hours there. I would really like for her to be able to go with her cousins but don't want to put her in danger of picking up bacteria's in the pool. DH called the place and was told that they check the chemicals every 2 hours and that it is on a constant filtration....


What is the general consensus here?? I really don't want her to miss out on things that "normal" kids get to do, especially when it comes to her cousins (who are close in age and live nearby) but am just a bit concerened!!

Thanks!!
 

NoDayButToday

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I'm not sure about the healthfulness of an indoor waterpark (although if they do monitor the pool that often, it robably isn't too harmful, I;d be more concerned about molds growing in the damp place), I have to say... am I the only person who has nevre heardof an indoor waterpark before?
 

anonymous

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Here is a link to this place, it has a couple of pictures - although they aren't very good ones!!

<a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.bearcreekfarms.com/swimminhole.php?PHPSESSID=c6355f9a1480f89a1f177f26f7053064">http://www.bearcreekfarms.com/swimminhole.php?PHPSESSID=c6355f9a1480f89a1f177f26f7053064</a>
 

anonymous

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I am not a mother here but I have to say this, kids need to be kids-regardless of their CF. I understand you aren't trying to be overprotective of her, just concerned but it boils down to this. At some point or another in her life, she is going to get dirty, go swimming, kiss a boy (who might have a cold), share toys with friends who are sick, play outside in the rain, eat dirt, eat bugs... and a plethora of other things. The theory in my husbands family (he has CF) was "it's better for him to be exposed at a young age so the body gets use to the bacteria and can build a resistance, than to try and shield him from all the germs, and risk having one sick kid around kindergarden time (or even later in life, especially in a college dorm where cleanliness is not optimal all the time)" and my husband so far has been very healthy with some flare ups. This seems to be the general concensus of most older CFers as well; it was the way their families did it-long before their was antibacterial rinse free hand sanitizer and air purifiers, and there are members as old as 50 on this board.

While I can genuinely understand your concern, I would encourage you to let her go. They usually put enough chlorine and chemicals in those pools and slides and such to kill anything that might think about contaminating the water.

Best of luck!

Julie (wife to Mark 24 w/CF)
 

anonymous

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Hello. You have not heard from me before; my mom is a frequent visitor and poster on this site, and identifies herself as "Bambi, mother of Jordan, 16." Jordan being me, of course.
I felt the need to respond to this post because most of the arguments being made are either non-commitial or supportive of sending a kid with CF to a waterpark, and my own view could hardly be more negative. First of all, I have never been to a waterpark, nor have I had the opportunity to "share toys with friends who are sick, play outside in the rain, eat dirt, eat bugs," etc. And no, I do NOT feel the least bit deprived, resentful, cooped-up, etc. Yes, I am slightly annoyed when my treatments or other aspects of CF get in the way of things I would like to do, like being near a friend who is sick. But I religiously avoid sick people, and no, my social life has not suffered. In fact, it is worth noting that people who have been turned away by the fact that I have CF are people that I would not particularly like to associate with anyway, because they tend to be more judgemental, rude, thoughtless, and so forth compared to those who can take it in stride. As a result, every single doctor that I have been to in the past decade has simply told my family to "keep on doing whatever you're doing." And so we have.

***Okay, after that introduction, the real answer is down here***

But all of this does not address the issue of the waterpark. To answer the original question here, I will refer back to some research I had to do to write a paper on swimming for my P.E. class so that I could get out of swimming (Grin). What I found was that swimming pools - and I'm sure the same is true of all recirculated bodies of water that people swim in - tend to be filthy, DESPITE the chemicals that are supposed to kill the germs. In fact, chlorine, the principal chemical used to "clean" pools and waterparks, has been proven to be extremely irritating to the respiratory system, and can in fact cause moderate reactions in asmatics. In short, this is not the sort of thing you want to have a kid with CF breating in. Period. Furthermore, the chlorine is only good inside the pool. What happens when water sloshes out around the pool, and perhaps puddles in isolated areas? Germs happen. Bacteria happen. Molds, mildew, and fungi happen. If some toddler has been in the pool and has felt the call of nature, e-coli bacteria may happen. Of course, e-coli infestation of commerical water parks is rare, but it has occurred. (People at my high school have boasted about peeing in our pool.) The point, however, is that if pools are nasty, waterparks can only be worse. The reason I say this is that waterparks often contain many "misters," things that aerosolize the very water that people have been sitting in. Isn't that what a nebulizer does (aerosolize, that is)? And isn't the point of nebulizing to drive medication DEEP into one's lungs? The droplets at a waterpark may not be as fine, but the concept is the same: every breath a guest of a waterpark takes is going to be filled with nice, warm, perhaps chlorinated water, that is at best highly irritating and and worst a haven for bacteria. I haven't even gotten close to to those small sprayers they turn on at zoos when it gets hot; I wouldn't dream of setting foot in a waterpark without a HEPA mask. Or maybe a spacesuit.

I apologize if I've come across as overly negative here, but I honestly believe that sending anybody - much less a kid with a respiratory complication - to a waterpark is a big risk.

- Jordan, age 16.5
 

Emily65Roses

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You'll get a lot of different responses here about this issue. I personally agree with Julie.

Water parks are most probably not particularly clean places, despite whatever chemicals they use. But, I wouldn't keep her from going. I've been to water parks a whole mess of times in my life. And I wouldn't take back any of the trips, they're way too fun. CF or not, you have to let her be a kid. In fact, I think kids with CF should have <i>even more</i> of a chance to be a kid because of all the crap we do miss out on... and all the time we don't have that others do. And bacteria in a water park or not, she will encounter those same bacterias at some point in her life, no matter how hard you try to keep her from it. Sheltering her won't work, short of locking her in a closet and slipping food under the door once a day for the rest of her life.

I also happen to second what Julie said about building up an immune system. The earlier she's exposed to all that crap, the better off she'll be. If you shelter her for a long time, once she gets out among people (which she will want to do some day if she ever wants to go to school, college, have a career, a spouse, or a life), she'll be screwed. The bacteria will be all over her and her body will be completely flabberghasted as to what to do to help her. I say let her go. That sounds like a lot of fun! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0">
 

thefrogprincess

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Just yesterday I read an article about bacteria. They basically said that it is so impossible to keep your kids from being exposed to bacteria so don't bother trying. About all you can do is wash your and their hands a lot. By the way, did you know your bathroom sink has more germs on it than your toilet? Nice thought huh?
 

cfmomma

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I would definitly send your daughter to go have fun. My son is 5 and goes to waterparks all the time and we have a swimming pool. It has done wonders for his health and self-confidence. He wants to swim 24 hours a day! He just learned to go down our big slide and swim to the shallow end of the pool, with no lifejacket or "floaties"! It is great exercise and encourages good breathing control. His CF doctor thinks it is wonderful, his only restriction was not to let my son be around the pool while I am adding the chlorine (chlorine dust is hard on the respiratory tract, once it's in the water and stabilized there is a very low chance of bothering the lungs). Occasionaly he will inhale some water, which freaks me out, it doesn't seem to bother him and I make sure to give him extra CPT that night. Yea, I worry about germs but refuse to shelter my child. Some people find it easy to stay at home, easy to avoid social situations where there may be germs, and easy to live in a bubble. We do not. My son is an only child and it is crucial that he has the opportunity to get out there and enjoy life, despite potential germs. The look in eyes and the smile on his face when he is with his friends, at the playground, swimming, and even Chuck-E-Cheese (cringe) erases all my worries and paranoia. This is an awesome opportunity for your daughter, husband, brother-in-law and nieces to kick-back and have some fun together! Good Luck
 
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luke

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first off, Jordan, welcome to the mix...very well spoken for a 16.5 year old. I am on the other side of the fence though. I wasn't allowed to do many things as a kid becuase my munchausen mother wouldn't let me. As for swimming, I have never researched it but the chemicals put in the pool must kill most bacteria or the health dept would not let public pools exsist. Of course there is always the chance the levels get to low but that probably would be rare. Not to mention every CF doc I have ever entcountered recommends swimming. So.....to answer the original question, let the kid go to the park, the exicitement and swimming will be a great health benefit.



Luke 29/cf(30 in 20 days!)
 

anonymous

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Let her go, is what I say. I went to raging waters in CA twice, and to an indoor one in holland and numerous ones in spain. While I realise you are looking out for her best interests, I think its important that she goes. She will have a ball and plus its good exercise..thats just my opinion

Shamrock, x (17/f/cf)
 

anonymous

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Thanks everyone! She is going to go and she is excited about it-although she doesn't really have a clue of how much fun it is going to be bc swimming to her means pouncing around in our little kiddie pool on the patio! I appreciate everyones input and know that it will be good for her and for my husband and I as well! I am sure we will be nervous nellies the entire time, but we would probably be that way even if she didn't have CF. I will post back afterwards to let you know how it went (in case anyone is interested!!).

Thanks!

PS Luke, I really don't want to be a munchausen mother! Happy almost 30th!!
 

cfmomma

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Yeah! You should post some pictures so we can all see her fun day.

Luke; what is a munchausen mother? I'm guessing it probably isn't a good thing.
 

anonymous

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I would love to see the photos and such of her, I can imagine she will have a blast. One other note I forgot to mention, my husband can't run like he use to, nor does he like to anymore because it gives him problems sometimes. But he always goes back to swimming to get that cardio.

I hope you all have a blast today!

Julie (wife to Mark 24 w/CF)

Oh, and I was wondering the same thing luke about the M... mother???
 

Emily65Roses

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Munchausen is when (usually) a mother craves excess attention and will do anything to get it. Make up her own diagnosis, take meds that aren't necessary, whatever else. Munchausen by proxy is when a mother does the same thing, but to her child. She uses a sick child to get attention for herself. There have been cases of mothers using poison on their kids to make them lose hair and vomit all the time, so that everyone (including the child) thinks they have cancer, and are going to die.

Did anyone ever see The Sixth Sense? The little girl who died and the mother who wore red at her funeral? That was a case of Munchausen by proxy.
 

anonymous

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Hello
We are taking our children to Kalhari indoor waterpark and resort, we are going in Oct. My daughter who has CF loves to swim and I would not want her to miss out on anything, she does culture pseudomonas but her docs seem to not have a problem with her going. I would let your child go and I hope that they have a BLAST!!

Kaitsmom<img src="i/expressions/rose.gif" border="0">
 
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luke

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Now we are a bit off topic. Emily got my point nicely, thanks Emily for illustrating. My mother loved it when I was sick, she got all kinds of attention and pity, she carried my illness like a badge of honor. I can't tell you the number of times she sat beside of me in the hospital telling all of her friends and family how sick I was and I how I," might not make it". Back then I lived in the hospital because that is where she liked me. For the record since my brother and I were kicked out of her and my stepdads house when I was 17 I have been hospitalized for a total of 3 days in 13 years, hummmm coincidence? By the way I have no contact with her, my brother does and keeps me "updated" on her saga. She has replaced me with her and now is on disability for fibramyalgia and irritable bowel syndrome. Ain't that a kick, I am the one with half a lung and she is the one milking it up with a walker and a disability check!



luke
 

forsaxon

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For the mummy with the wee 2yr old, I know exactly where you are coming from. I often wonder how I can let my boy (3months wcf) when he's older do all these things. It scares the life out of me particulary this "pseudomonas bug" that everyone talks about. He had his first bath in the "big" bath tonight & I barely wet him before I whipped him out as I wasn't sure if the plug was dry before I used it! I want him to grow up normally & do every day things like play in the dirt & puddles etc but on the other hard I am terrified that he may get sick, like really sick. I know it's early days & maybe the more I learn the less uptight I will be, but I will be honest I am scared.

I look forward to hearing how she went, I am sure she had a ball & I hope you didn't stress to much over the day about it!

And yes for those who may comment I am a neurotic mum, but I figure I can be until he's old enough to know!!

Donna - Australia
Mum of Saxon 3mths wcf & Georgia 3 1/2yrs wo/cf
 

JazzysMom

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I am all for taking precautions. I, however, being 37 & never really being restricted feel that if a CFer cant "live" by doing normal things like going to a water park etc then they really are not living. My recent problems have really had to remind people involved in my care that there is more than the "CF" part of me or the "physical" part that needs to be addressed. For myself the emotional/mental health can be just as important.
 

shamrock

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All this talking has got me really wanting to go to a waterpark. So I did some research on the net for the nearest park to where we're going to be staying in Spain next week.

Its funny, since my pfts have dropped in the last few years,(now 36%) I've become more hesitant to go to these places, but when I was writing in response to the original post, I thought,'I'd love to go' and then said ''ah sure why not?!''So Im going this Friday!! Thanks for bringing up this topic!!<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">
 

anonymous

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Is your child allergic to mold? If so, I would not take them to an INDOOR water park, only an OUTDOOR one.

Good luck!
 
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