Is Cystic Fibrosis linked with High IQ?

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posoutlook

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Does anyone know if CF is linked to high IQ or have experience with this situation. My son is 9 years old and diagnosed with CF at 8. He has always been smart but I never knew how intelligent he was until recently. He does have a 504 plan and has missed ALOT of school in the past year due to all of the doctors appt. and not feeling well. When it comes to school he is a straight A student and a perfectionist also. I recently had him tested for the enrichment program and the school contacted us to have a meeting. Because of how high his IQ is there recommendation is for us to move him from 3rd to 4th grade and also put him into the gifted program immediatley.
My concern is that with all of his appt. and illnesses he sometimes gets stressed about not having the time to complete the assignments he has now. And when he is out the teacher will pull him from recess to make up some work and it feels like a punishment to him. The schools arguement is that he is way ahead of all the 3rd graders and much more mature and if they need to they can work with him and not give homework because of the 504 plan. I don't feel right about that because all my son talks about is how he wishes he was normal like the other kids and I feel special treatment on that side just seperates him even more from his classmates. On the other side of things I do not want to hold my son back if he is capable of the work and challenge.
I also do not want him being the youngest in his class when he is older he already deals with teasing because of his size.
Does anyone have any personal experience or advice.
Thank you
Leanne
 
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posoutlook

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Does anyone know if CF is linked to high IQ or have experience with this situation. My son is 9 years old and diagnosed with CF at 8. He has always been smart but I never knew how intelligent he was until recently. He does have a 504 plan and has missed ALOT of school in the past year due to all of the doctors appt. and not feeling well. When it comes to school he is a straight A student and a perfectionist also. I recently had him tested for the enrichment program and the school contacted us to have a meeting. Because of how high his IQ is there recommendation is for us to move him from 3rd to 4th grade and also put him into the gifted program immediatley.
My concern is that with all of his appt. and illnesses he sometimes gets stressed about not having the time to complete the assignments he has now. And when he is out the teacher will pull him from recess to make up some work and it feels like a punishment to him. The schools arguement is that he is way ahead of all the 3rd graders and much more mature and if they need to they can work with him and not give homework because of the 504 plan. I don't feel right about that because all my son talks about is how he wishes he was normal like the other kids and I feel special treatment on that side just seperates him even more from his classmates. On the other side of things I do not want to hold my son back if he is capable of the work and challenge.
I also do not want him being the youngest in his class when he is older he already deals with teasing because of his size.
Does anyone have any personal experience or advice.
Thank you
Leanne
 
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posoutlook

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Does anyone know if CF is linked to high IQ or have experience with this situation. My son is 9 years old and diagnosed with CF at 8. He has always been smart but I never knew how intelligent he was until recently. He does have a 504 plan and has missed ALOT of school in the past year due to all of the doctors appt. and not feeling well. When it comes to school he is a straight A student and a perfectionist also. I recently had him tested for the enrichment program and the school contacted us to have a meeting. Because of how high his IQ is there recommendation is for us to move him from 3rd to 4th grade and also put him into the gifted program immediatley.
<br />My concern is that with all of his appt. and illnesses he sometimes gets stressed about not having the time to complete the assignments he has now. And when he is out the teacher will pull him from recess to make up some work and it feels like a punishment to him. The schools arguement is that he is way ahead of all the 3rd graders and much more mature and if they need to they can work with him and not give homework because of the 504 plan. I don't feel right about that because all my son talks about is how he wishes he was normal like the other kids and I feel special treatment on that side just seperates him even more from his classmates. On the other side of things I do not want to hold my son back if he is capable of the work and challenge.
<br />I also do not want him being the youngest in his class when he is older he already deals with teasing because of his size.
<br />Does anyone have any personal experience or advice.
<br />Thank you
<br />Leanne
 
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crickit715

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i previously read an article from the "famous cf dr" at the minnesota clinic (is it dr warwick??,cant remember name) and he actually said that in all of his years experience with children he has always felt children with cf are of higher intelligence....
 
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crickit715

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i previously read an article from the "famous cf dr" at the minnesota clinic (is it dr warwick??,cant remember name) and he actually said that in all of his years experience with children he has always felt children with cf are of higher intelligence....
 
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crickit715

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i previously read an article from the "famous cf dr" at the minnesota clinic (is it dr warwick??,cant remember name) and he actually said that in all of his years experience with children he has always felt children with cf are of higher intelligence....
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Jana

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That's interesting. I've wondered about that before just from reading and hearing different things. I wonder if it actually has to do with intelligence or simply being very driven because life is a fight from the start.

Leanne, I don't have any children, but from a teacher's perspective, I think your concerns about your son skipping a grade are valid. I've often observed that students who do that struggle. Even if they are intellectually ready for it, their emotional and physical maturity are factors as well. In my opinion, your son probably has enough to deal with already without adding the stress that making that jump could add to his life.

I don't claim to be an expert, though--just opinionated. Feel free to take or leave my opinion =)
 
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Jana

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That's interesting. I've wondered about that before just from reading and hearing different things. I wonder if it actually has to do with intelligence or simply being very driven because life is a fight from the start.

Leanne, I don't have any children, but from a teacher's perspective, I think your concerns about your son skipping a grade are valid. I've often observed that students who do that struggle. Even if they are intellectually ready for it, their emotional and physical maturity are factors as well. In my opinion, your son probably has enough to deal with already without adding the stress that making that jump could add to his life.

I don't claim to be an expert, though--just opinionated. Feel free to take or leave my opinion =)
 
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Jana

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That's interesting. I've wondered about that before just from reading and hearing different things. I wonder if it actually has to do with intelligence or simply being very driven because life is a fight from the start.
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<br />Leanne, I don't have any children, but from a teacher's perspective, I think your concerns about your son skipping a grade are valid. I've often observed that students who do that struggle. Even if they are intellectually ready for it, their emotional and physical maturity are factors as well. In my opinion, your son probably has enough to deal with already without adding the stress that making that jump could add to his life.
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<br />I don't claim to be an expert, though--just opinionated. Feel free to take or leave my opinion =)
 
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mneville

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Leanne...Yes, it was Dr Warwick who did an informal study with CF/intelligence and found it to be true at his center. From personal experience, we are in the SAME position. Aidan just turned 6 and has an IQ in the hight 140's which is extremely gifted. He is intense, perfectionist, crazy energy and a real challenge. We also tried to keep him back because I didn't want him to be the youngest and he does miss a lot of school too. BUT he was too smart. So he went to first grade and is still sailing through....He is very social and mature in a lot of ways too., totally keeps up with the older kids.

So we are in the same position. I know that Aidan will always be a real challenge, he is just too smart for his own good. What is your son's IQ?

Megan
 
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mneville

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Leanne...Yes, it was Dr Warwick who did an informal study with CF/intelligence and found it to be true at his center. From personal experience, we are in the SAME position. Aidan just turned 6 and has an IQ in the hight 140's which is extremely gifted. He is intense, perfectionist, crazy energy and a real challenge. We also tried to keep him back because I didn't want him to be the youngest and he does miss a lot of school too. BUT he was too smart. So he went to first grade and is still sailing through....He is very social and mature in a lot of ways too., totally keeps up with the older kids.

So we are in the same position. I know that Aidan will always be a real challenge, he is just too smart for his own good. What is your son's IQ?

Megan
 
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mneville

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Leanne...Yes, it was Dr Warwick who did an informal study with CF/intelligence and found it to be true at his center. From personal experience, we are in the SAME position. Aidan just turned 6 and has an IQ in the hight 140's which is extremely gifted. He is intense, perfectionist, crazy energy and a real challenge. We also tried to keep him back because I didn't want him to be the youngest and he does miss a lot of school too. BUT he was too smart. So he went to first grade and is still sailing through....He is very social and mature in a lot of ways too., totally keeps up with the older kids.
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<br />So we are in the same position. I know that Aidan will always be a real challenge, he is just too smart for his own good. What is your son's IQ?
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<br />Megan
 
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hmw

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When Dr. Warwick did the 'informal study' at his center, out of curiousity, who was he comparing the kids to? Did he compare kids with CF to kids with another chronic illness? Or take a sampling of healthy children to compare to the children with CF? Or did he have a bunch of kids IQ's at his center formally tested? (After all, he isn't in the position to walk in the room and judge IQ based on either parental commentary or personal observation~ he's a CF specialist, not a developmental pediatrician.) Just wondering about the specifics of his study.

I do think, personally, when it comes to some kind of 'link'... that it may be a perception of maturity more than actual intelligence (not to say that many with CF aren't bright- just as many without CF are also very bright.) I think this comes from a couple factors~ more interaction with adults (frequent hospitalizations, dr visits, etc) and in so many ways having to mature beyond their years from a very early age.
 
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hmw

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When Dr. Warwick did the 'informal study' at his center, out of curiousity, who was he comparing the kids to? Did he compare kids with CF to kids with another chronic illness? Or take a sampling of healthy children to compare to the children with CF? Or did he have a bunch of kids IQ's at his center formally tested? (After all, he isn't in the position to walk in the room and judge IQ based on either parental commentary or personal observation~ he's a CF specialist, not a developmental pediatrician.) Just wondering about the specifics of his study.

I do think, personally, when it comes to some kind of 'link'... that it may be a perception of maturity more than actual intelligence (not to say that many with CF aren't bright- just as many without CF are also very bright.) I think this comes from a couple factors~ more interaction with adults (frequent hospitalizations, dr visits, etc) and in so many ways having to mature beyond their years from a very early age.
 
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hmw

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When Dr. Warwick did the 'informal study' at his center, out of curiousity, who was he comparing the kids to? Did he compare kids with CF to kids with another chronic illness? Or take a sampling of healthy children to compare to the children with CF? Or did he have a bunch of kids IQ's at his center formally tested? (After all, he isn't in the position to walk in the room and judge IQ based on either parental commentary or personal observation~ he's a CF specialist, not a developmental pediatrician.) Just wondering about the specifics of his study.
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<br />I do think, personally, when it comes to some kind of 'link'... that it may be a perception of maturity more than actual intelligence (not to say that many with CF aren't bright- just as many without CF are also very bright.) I think this comes from a couple factors~ more interaction with adults (frequent hospitalizations, dr visits, etc) and in so many ways having to mature beyond their years from a very early age.
 
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LouLou

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I do not believe we are more intelligent due to our cf. We are a niche group though genetically (obviously) and I think there's someting to do with genetics and intelligence. Also, we tend to be from an ancestory of educated, hard working individuals who have not had famine or poverty in their lineage for multiple generations. I think when the bare necessities are covered it brings up the family's intelligence level because back to the hunter/gatherer nature of us all, if we don't need to focus on where the next meal is coming from we can focus on more intellectual endeavors.

I wouldn't consider myself more intelligent than my colleagues but then again I've always associated with people brighter than the average I suppose. And all 4 of my grandparents graduated from college. How many people can say that?

I think skipping a grade should not be taken lightly. Perhaps wait a few years and look for signs of boredom on his part.
 
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LouLou

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I do not believe we are more intelligent due to our cf. We are a niche group though genetically (obviously) and I think there's someting to do with genetics and intelligence. Also, we tend to be from an ancestory of educated, hard working individuals who have not had famine or poverty in their lineage for multiple generations. I think when the bare necessities are covered it brings up the family's intelligence level because back to the hunter/gatherer nature of us all, if we don't need to focus on where the next meal is coming from we can focus on more intellectual endeavors.

I wouldn't consider myself more intelligent than my colleagues but then again I've always associated with people brighter than the average I suppose. And all 4 of my grandparents graduated from college. How many people can say that?

I think skipping a grade should not be taken lightly. Perhaps wait a few years and look for signs of boredom on his part.
 
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LouLou

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I do not believe we are more intelligent due to our cf. We are a niche group though genetically (obviously) and I think there's someting to do with genetics and intelligence. Also, we tend to be from an ancestory of educated, hard working individuals who have not had famine or poverty in their lineage for multiple generations. I think when the bare necessities are covered it brings up the family's intelligence level because back to the hunter/gatherer nature of us all, if we don't need to focus on where the next meal is coming from we can focus on more intellectual endeavors.
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<br />I wouldn't consider myself more intelligent than my colleagues but then again I've always associated with people brighter than the average I suppose. And all 4 of my grandparents graduated from college. How many people can say that?
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<br />I think skipping a grade should not be taken lightly. Perhaps wait a few years and look for signs of boredom on his part.
 
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mamaScarlett

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>hmw</b></i>


I do think, personally, when it comes to some kind of 'link'... that it may be a perception of maturity more than actual intelligence (not to say that many with CF aren't bright- just as many without CF are also very bright.) I think this comes from a couple factors~ more interaction with adults (frequent hospitalizations, dr visits, etc) and in so many ways having to mature beyond their years from a very early age.</end quote></div>

My thoughts 100%.
 
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mamaScarlett

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>hmw</b></i>


I do think, personally, when it comes to some kind of 'link'... that it may be a perception of maturity more than actual intelligence (not to say that many with CF aren't bright- just as many without CF are also very bright.) I think this comes from a couple factors~ more interaction with adults (frequent hospitalizations, dr visits, etc) and in so many ways having to mature beyond their years from a very early age.</end quote>

My thoughts 100%.
 
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