Is double lung transplant really worth it?

mikeyvas

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Hoping you veterans can give a new guy to the site some opinions???

I've been on verge of needing a transplant for like 3 years now, and quite frankly I'm getting pretty frustrated with it. My regular clinc doctor tells me I should really consider it, but when I see the transplant team, they tell me "not quite ready, come back in 6 months."

I guess what I really want to ask is this. Is having this thing done really worth it? Cause all I wanna do is breakdance<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-cool.gif" border="0"> but I can't do it now with how much I cough<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif" border="0"> LOL seriously let me know
 

anonymous

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hmmm what a question, its like asking if the glass is half empty or half full!!

I typed up a full three pages and then thought to myself, no one would want to read my insights, I tend to ramble on a bit:p

Every single Person with CF comes to this cross road, one in which they need to decide which direction they want to go, its a choice, and a bloody hard choice to make!! No one knows the future, and no one knows their destiny or whats going to happen.

For those of us who have had transplants and had a good run of it with very few problems will definitely tell you that its worth it, but there is always the other side of the coin and that side is ones that dont make it, that dont have a clean slate and they will tell you it wasnt worth it...... It isnt common that people say it wasnt worth it, because many will tell you even a week with air was worth it, to not have to rely on oxygen was worth it, to shower by themselves was worth it.... but its such a individual thing, and every single person will handle things differently....

Arm yourself with as much information that you can, and talk to as many post transplant people that you can, I honestly dont think anything can really prepare you for the rollercoaster you will get on, because I got the shock of my life, and I thought I was pretty well prepared.

maybe it was my lack of support from the hospital, maybe it was a lot of things, but my doctor asked me 6 month after my transplant if I had regrets, and if you're after honesty then what I told him was, yes some days I did regret it, some days I wished I had taken the other road, but realistically I have NO regrets, I just never expected it to be this hard, if that makes sense?

I suffered from major depression after my tx( never in my life ever suffered from depression), and I couldnt understand why I was happier (or seemed happier when I was dying) when here I was alive why wasnt floating on cloud nine? I still go through the motions of existing, and suriving a life I sometimes dont understand, and if anyone read my post I put about tattoos and body modification then you can get a feel for what I do to stay sane!!!!

For me, yes it was worth it, but it wasnt what I expected or thought it was going to be, its a whole new way of life, and whole new set of rules!!

I do a lot of writing about how I feel and what is going through my head, and when I read over the stuff I wrote 12 months ago it still brings me to tears. My favourite saying that I made up after tx that explained what I was feeling at that time was "never aim for paradise, you'll get the desert instead"

When everyone tells you how great its going to be, and how fantastic everything will be, you expect that, and then when it doesnt quite happen, instead of reaching paradise you find yourself alone in the desert struggling to find you way out, but having no idea how to accomplish it..

This post isnt to be a downer, or to be down on transplants, its just to make you aware that dont set your goals too high, and dont expect to just jump back into a brand new life free of problems, because when you dont reach it straight off you do question yourself (or I did)..

You got to crawl before you can walk, and you have to walk before you can run!!!

I am 2 years post now, and I have ways of dealing with my depression and my panic attacks (all of which presented after tx) my will to live is greater then my will to give up, but that said I still have my days unfortunately, and on my worst days is when I turn to self inflicted pain to make me sane.(thats a whole new story)

anyway good luck, and be prepared, and if you want to talk then ask, you need a whole range of post transplanters to devise yourself a coping plan, arm yourself with knowledge, and get your support system happening NOW!!

Tracy







My biggest thing was, it was nothing to what I thought it was going to be
 

anonymous

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Well that was a bummer.

I had a tough 6 months and heck yes it was worth it to say the least. Very little depression but the nausia every day for 6 months was getting rather old.

Today I woke up with my wife, hiked for an hour with my dog, went skiing at a new downhill ski area and had some great steep, air and speed.

Heck yes it was worth it, my choice was dying which was not allot of fun at the time.

No idea how long I will live but I'm not whining and happy to wake up and still be breathing. Three people died to give me a new chance at life and I am thankful beyond measure.

Setbacks, issue, all are a part of the TX adventure.

CF 54 TX cepacia
 

anonymous

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Hey Mikey-
I'm 3 months post transplant. Was it worth it? Absolutely! Would I do it again? In a minute. I have been extremely lucky in my transplant. I've had some complications (an epsiode of acute rejection and some airway narrowing) all of which were fixed and I'm now doing great. I had to relocate to Louisiana from New Jersey for my tranpslant and being away from family and friends is more difficult than the transplant itself. Being able to walk, laugh, play, shower, excercise all without oxygen is truly a blessing. I'm so lucky that I had the opportunity to do this. I'm returning to school in the fall to finish my senior year of college the righ way. Then I plan on getting a full time job and being a functional member of society. And a very happy member of society at that. There are worries with tranpslant and it is a huge commimtment. But having the opportunity to have a more normal life is wonderful. Imagine a life without having to do breathing treatments and the vest! Hello free time! Popping a few pills is nothing. It takes all of two seconds to do and then you are done. Being able to exercise like everyone else is amazing. Just this weekend I celebrated Mardi Gras and went to parades, walked around, and jumped up and down and screamed for beads. It made me stop and think that without this tranplant I would never have been able to experience that! I had to give up nine months of my life at home in order to gain more wonderful years with my family and friends. It is worth it. Being able to take in a deep breath is truly a gift and we all deserve to experience that. If you would like to chat more about my experience send me an e-mail mlapsanski@yahoo.com
Margaret
Double lung transplant 11/11/04
 
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yes... it was worth it, so very worth it...

If I had to go back and do it all over again, I would.
 

anonymous

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Just out of curiosity, does anyone know what the longest amount of time is that someone has lived with the same set of lungs after a double lung transplant? Thanks.
 

anonymous

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I have a question for those of you who have had a transplant....
My child is 16 years old and has been hospitalized regularly the last 5 years...
I've heard that when you have a transplant you are basically cured of cf. This confuses me, I understand the new lungs are CF free, but since CF is a genetic disease technically you would still have it? right? Isn't it more like starting over with a clean slate? The chloride channels still won't work.. won't the new lungs suffer??

Brandy
 

RadChevy

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Hi,

There are several people who are now post lung tx 18 years... they might be single lung. But I also know a man who was 17 years post, with a double lung. He did die from other causes.

There are CFers who are about 15 years post lung tx, with their first and only set of donor lungs.

Joanne Schum
luckylungsforjo@aol.com
 

RadChevy

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Brandy,

You are not cured of CF after getting new lungs... Your lungs are cured of the CF gene. You will still have the enzyme issues, the sinus issues... but sometimes these improve greatly. My sister since her tx does not need any enzymes ( she use to take 8). My sinuses have improved greatly and maybe every couple years have a slight infection which requires some meds.

The CF gene is gone in your lungs. The gene cannot "reappear", "invade" "move" into the new lungs. So we are CF free there. But, we can get pseudomonas, aspergillous, infections, chronic rejection, that can make us SOUND like we have CF. And in fact, when these things come up post lung tx.... many times we use the drugs we used with our CF lungs, and that includes nebulized TOBI and pulmozyme.

Joanne Schum
luckylungsforjo@aol.com
 

Emily65Roses

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In the case of post-tx, I understand the CF doesn't transfer to the new lungs... but Joanne, you said we can still get all the normal infections. Are we more prone to them than healthy people? I mean, personally, I've never heard of pseudomonas in anyone outside of CFers (I know it's in a lot of people, but they don't get sick from it). So why would the new lungs still be so succeptable to our friendly old CF bacteria?
 

NoDayButToday

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I think CFers are more prone to infection post TX because of the sinuses, which can sometimes drip into the lungs and cause trouble. I may be wrong, but this is the impression I've gotten. Joanne is much more knowledgable on this than me though, so I defer to her!
 

anonymous

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Actually, pseudomonas, cepacia, etc, can affect anyone who is very immune-compromised. There are a host of other diseases (albeit generally more rare than cf) that these bacterias wreak havoc with. Post transplant you are more immune compromised because you're taking powerful anti-rejection drugs specifically to suppress your immune system. The body's natural response to anything foreign, including lungs from a donor, is to attack the foreign substance and kill it. This is precisely what would happen without the anti-rejection meds. It's a catch-22, the anti-rejection meds suppress the immune response to enable your body to live with the new lungs but in doing so, it makes you much more susceptible to bacteria/viruses, etc that a healthy, non-immune suppressed individual could easily kick. That's why it's so important to practice the same good hygiene post-tx as it is pre-tx.
 

Emily65Roses

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Ahhhh, thank you. It never occurred to me that anyone with a not fully functioning immune system would have that same problem. Question answered, thanks. <img src="i/expressions/rose.gif" border="0">
 

RadChevy

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Someone already answered this - as to why can a post lung tx person get pseudo or Aspergillous?
Yes because we are immune compromised. I know people who are post lung tx, due to other lung illnesses and post tx they have gotten aspgerillous or pseudomonas. Generally treated with the same IV drugs, or nebulizers that CFers are treated with.

Also somone mentioned the sinus drip down. When you have your lung tx, also part of the surgery is of course cleaning your chest cavity, but also doing a sinus clean out. They want to do everything to prevent any asper or pseudo dripping down into your lungs. Also, remember, your large airway is not removed during tx, so that also could hold some of those infections and your new lungs could get it that way. But the good thing is becuase our lungs are new and healthy, these are treatable, unlike most times with CF patients.

Hope that helps

luckylungsforjo@aol.com

Joanne Schum
 

jessicarose

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hi!
One of my close friend's with cf is about to turn 40! But he boasts he will turn 15 before he gets near the big 4.0.
The reason? Next month is his 15th year anniversary dinner for his double lung transplant. He is as fit as a fiddle, without it he would not be where he is today, doing what he does- getting out in the public, advertising cf awareness. He was the third double lung transplant ever in australia, and my opinion is, if the "ancient" methods can last this long (and longer) then with todays knowledge we will be celebrating more 15 years + anniversarys.
i imagine it would be a hard decision, iv still got a while til i come to that path but...If it's gonna make your life longer and more enjoyable... why the hell not?
jess 17 year old w/cf
 

anonymous

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Hi Jess,

Do you know which hospital he was transplanted at in Australia?? and any other statistics on him.

Im a aussie and my docs have never mentioned that there was a post tx CF 15 out that was here in AUS, so I would be very interested if I could maybe get his email addy or something, I would love to talk to him!

I thought our longest living in oz was only 10 years, but obviously the doctors arent letting on....

What tx centre is he under now??

Tracy
 

RadChevy

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Tracy,

Here is the web site for Brad Taylor... who I think we are referring to about the man being post lung tx 15 years in Aussie.

I don't see the date of his tx listed there, or what center he had his tx. But there is an email for Brad. I have been in email contact with him and he is a great guy to talk to.

http://www.believeyourdream.com/

Good luck

Joanne




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jessicarose

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There ya go tracy, you didnt need my help anyway <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">
Sorry i'm still a bit sketchy on the details and stuff but im sure brad will be happy to let you in on everything
 
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