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wanderlost

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>Keepercjr</b></i>

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>bonniebaby</b></i>



Caroline,







I bought a cosleeper-it is a new model that has mesh sides so you can see the baby while lying down. I think that will help a lot.</end quote></div>



Bonnie that is a good idea. I never used a cosleeper - we just have a soft rail on the bed. But a cosleeper is much better than baby in their own room having to cry to wake you up. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> I had a bassinet all set up next to the bed but he never spent even 1 night in it. I just couldn't bear the thought of him lying there alone. I started balling the first night home because I didn't know what to do with him - I was all prepared to just sit on the couch and hold him and DH said "just bring him to bed" and that is where he's been ever since. I feel bad for having him spend the 1 night in the bassinet in the hospital... the nurse was really rude and when she caught me holding him around 1 am she snapped "put that baby back in the bassinet" and like a good patient I complied - I didn't know any better. That nurse is one of the reasons I plan to have a homebirth for the next one.</end quote></div>

When I had my son (1999) the hospital told me they didn't "allow" the baby to sleep in the bed with the mom (I, not always a rule follower, did anyway - and he slept with me until about 9 months old)). When I had my daughter last year, the hospital didn't say a word, and even had a pamphlet about safe cosleeping. I tink it's because I live in South Bend where James McKenna - the mother-baby sleep lab cosleeping guru does his research at Notre Dame. DD is now 10 month and still sleeps with us most the night. I don't think she'll be leaving our bed anytime soon!

Caroline, <i>if</i> and that's a big if, we have another, we are also going to have a homebirth.
 
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wanderlost

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>Keepercjr</b></i>

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>bonniebaby</b></i>



Caroline,







I bought a cosleeper-it is a new model that has mesh sides so you can see the baby while lying down. I think that will help a lot.</end quote>



Bonnie that is a good idea. I never used a cosleeper - we just have a soft rail on the bed. But a cosleeper is much better than baby in their own room having to cry to wake you up. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> I had a bassinet all set up next to the bed but he never spent even 1 night in it. I just couldn't bear the thought of him lying there alone. I started balling the first night home because I didn't know what to do with him - I was all prepared to just sit on the couch and hold him and DH said "just bring him to bed" and that is where he's been ever since. I feel bad for having him spend the 1 night in the bassinet in the hospital... the nurse was really rude and when she caught me holding him around 1 am she snapped "put that baby back in the bassinet" and like a good patient I complied - I didn't know any better. That nurse is one of the reasons I plan to have a homebirth for the next one.</end quote>

When I had my son (1999) the hospital told me they didn't "allow" the baby to sleep in the bed with the mom (I, not always a rule follower, did anyway - and he slept with me until about 9 months old)). When I had my daughter last year, the hospital didn't say a word, and even had a pamphlet about safe cosleeping. I tink it's because I live in South Bend where James McKenna - the mother-baby sleep lab cosleeping guru does his research at Notre Dame. DD is now 10 month and still sleeps with us most the night. I don't think she'll be leaving our bed anytime soon!

Caroline, <i>if</i> and that's a big if, we have another, we are also going to have a homebirth.
 
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wanderlost

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>Keepercjr</b></i>

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>bonniebaby</b></i>



Caroline,







I bought a cosleeper-it is a new model that has mesh sides so you can see the baby while lying down. I think that will help a lot.</end quote>



Bonnie that is a good idea. I never used a cosleeper - we just have a soft rail on the bed. But a cosleeper is much better than baby in their own room having to cry to wake you up. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> I had a bassinet all set up next to the bed but he never spent even 1 night in it. I just couldn't bear the thought of him lying there alone. I started balling the first night home because I didn't know what to do with him - I was all prepared to just sit on the couch and hold him and DH said "just bring him to bed" and that is where he's been ever since. I feel bad for having him spend the 1 night in the bassinet in the hospital... the nurse was really rude and when she caught me holding him around 1 am she snapped "put that baby back in the bassinet" and like a good patient I complied - I didn't know any better. That nurse is one of the reasons I plan to have a homebirth for the next one.</end quote>

When I had my son (1999) the hospital told me they didn't "allow" the baby to sleep in the bed with the mom (I, not always a rule follower, did anyway - and he slept with me until about 9 months old)). When I had my daughter last year, the hospital didn't say a word, and even had a pamphlet about safe cosleeping. I tink it's because I live in South Bend where James McKenna - the mother-baby sleep lab cosleeping guru does his research at Notre Dame. DD is now 10 month and still sleeps with us most the night. I don't think she'll be leaving our bed anytime soon!

Caroline, <i>if</i> and that's a big if, we have another, we are also going to have a homebirth.
 
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mom2lillian

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Wanderlost-SOUTH BEND?<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif" border="0">!!! No Way, we live in Three Rivers and DH's family is all in IN so we are down that way alot.

My hospital had us PETRIFIED of co-sleeping. THey had pamphlets and signs on the wall forbidding it and warning of immenent death. I fell asleep holding her as did Jared and we were both sooo upset.

We used a bassinet in our room for first 2-3 months at foot of our bed as there is no room on side for a co-sleeper in our bedroom and that worked out well for us. Now we start her in her crib and when she wakes she comes in with us so it doesnt have to be an all or none issues either. For us this works out well as it getting her used to her crib and sleeping in there, it gives us some alone parent time <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> and my DH is still in belief that we are doing somethign 'bad' by co-sleeping (even though he secretly likes it)and he doesnt get good sleep so this is a good compromise.
 
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mom2lillian

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Wanderlost-SOUTH BEND?<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif" border="0">!!! No Way, we live in Three Rivers and DH's family is all in IN so we are down that way alot.

My hospital had us PETRIFIED of co-sleeping. THey had pamphlets and signs on the wall forbidding it and warning of immenent death. I fell asleep holding her as did Jared and we were both sooo upset.

We used a bassinet in our room for first 2-3 months at foot of our bed as there is no room on side for a co-sleeper in our bedroom and that worked out well for us. Now we start her in her crib and when she wakes she comes in with us so it doesnt have to be an all or none issues either. For us this works out well as it getting her used to her crib and sleeping in there, it gives us some alone parent time <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> and my DH is still in belief that we are doing somethign 'bad' by co-sleeping (even though he secretly likes it)and he doesnt get good sleep so this is a good compromise.
 
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mom2lillian

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Wanderlost-SOUTH BEND?<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif" border="0">!!! No Way, we live in Three Rivers and DH's family is all in IN so we are down that way alot.

My hospital had us PETRIFIED of co-sleeping. THey had pamphlets and signs on the wall forbidding it and warning of immenent death. I fell asleep holding her as did Jared and we were both sooo upset.

We used a bassinet in our room for first 2-3 months at foot of our bed as there is no room on side for a co-sleeper in our bedroom and that worked out well for us. Now we start her in her crib and when she wakes she comes in with us so it doesnt have to be an all or none issues either. For us this works out well as it getting her used to her crib and sleeping in there, it gives us some alone parent time <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> and my DH is still in belief that we are doing somethign 'bad' by co-sleeping (even though he secretly likes it)and he doesnt get good sleep so this is a good compromise.
 
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mom2lillian

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Wanderlost-SOUTH BEND?<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif" border="0">!!! No Way, we live in Three Rivers and DH's family is all in IN so we are down that way alot.

My hospital had us PETRIFIED of co-sleeping. THey had pamphlets and signs on the wall forbidding it and warning of immenent death. I fell asleep holding her as did Jared and we were both sooo upset.

We used a bassinet in our room for first 2-3 months at foot of our bed as there is no room on side for a co-sleeper in our bedroom and that worked out well for us. Now we start her in her crib and when she wakes she comes in with us so it doesnt have to be an all or none issues either. For us this works out well as it getting her used to her crib and sleeping in there, it gives us some alone parent time <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> and my DH is still in belief that we are doing somethign 'bad' by co-sleeping (even though he secretly likes it)and he doesnt get good sleep so this is a good compromise.
 
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mom2lillian

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Wanderlost-SOUTH BEND?<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif" border="0">!!! No Way, we live in Three Rivers and DH's family is all in IN so we are down that way alot.

My hospital had us PETRIFIED of co-sleeping. THey had pamphlets and signs on the wall forbidding it and warning of immenent death. I fell asleep holding her as did Jared and we were both sooo upset.

We used a bassinet in our room for first 2-3 months at foot of our bed as there is no room on side for a co-sleeper in our bedroom and that worked out well for us. Now we start her in her crib and when she wakes she comes in with us so it doesnt have to be an all or none issues either. For us this works out well as it getting her used to her crib and sleeping in there, it gives us some alone parent time <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> and my DH is still in belief that we are doing somethign 'bad' by co-sleeping (even though he secretly likes it)and he doesnt get good sleep so this is a good compromise.
 
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wanderlost

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>mom2lillian</b></i>

Wanderlost-SOUTH BEND?<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif" border="0">!!! No Way, we live in Three Rivers and DH's family is all in IN so we are down that way alot.



My hospital had us PETRIFIED of co-sleeping. THey had pamphlets and signs on the wall forbidding it and warning of immenent death. I fell asleep holding her as did Jared and we were both sooo upset.



We used a bassinet in our room for first 2-3 months at foot of our bed as there is no room on side for a co-sleeper in our bedroom and that worked out well for us. Now we start her in her crib and when she wakes she comes in with us so it doesnt have to be an all or none issues either. For us this works out well as it getting her used to her crib and sleeping in there, it gives us some alone parent time <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> and my DH is still in belief that we are doing somethign 'bad' by co-sleeping (even though he secretly likes it)and he doesnt get good sleep so this is a good compromise.</end quote></div>


Yup, good ole SB! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

Mu hubby was against cosleeping at first too - they were very "traditional" in the way his son (my step-son) was rasied as an infant - but now he is adapted and likes it well enough, though when she is particularly squirmy he can get annoyed. She falls asleep in a crib now and then I bring her into bed when she wakes in the night . I was afraid once she got mobile she'd fall out when she woke and we needed a little alone bed time too <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">
 
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wanderlost

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>mom2lillian</b></i>

Wanderlost-SOUTH BEND?<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif" border="0">!!! No Way, we live in Three Rivers and DH's family is all in IN so we are down that way alot.



My hospital had us PETRIFIED of co-sleeping. THey had pamphlets and signs on the wall forbidding it and warning of immenent death. I fell asleep holding her as did Jared and we were both sooo upset.



We used a bassinet in our room for first 2-3 months at foot of our bed as there is no room on side for a co-sleeper in our bedroom and that worked out well for us. Now we start her in her crib and when she wakes she comes in with us so it doesnt have to be an all or none issues either. For us this works out well as it getting her used to her crib and sleeping in there, it gives us some alone parent time <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> and my DH is still in belief that we are doing somethign 'bad' by co-sleeping (even though he secretly likes it)and he doesnt get good sleep so this is a good compromise.</end quote></div>


Yup, good ole SB! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

Mu hubby was against cosleeping at first too - they were very "traditional" in the way his son (my step-son) was rasied as an infant - but now he is adapted and likes it well enough, though when she is particularly squirmy he can get annoyed. She falls asleep in a crib now and then I bring her into bed when she wakes in the night . I was afraid once she got mobile she'd fall out when she woke and we needed a little alone bed time too <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">
 
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wanderlost

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>mom2lillian</b></i>

Wanderlost-SOUTH BEND?<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif" border="0">!!! No Way, we live in Three Rivers and DH's family is all in IN so we are down that way alot.



My hospital had us PETRIFIED of co-sleeping. THey had pamphlets and signs on the wall forbidding it and warning of immenent death. I fell asleep holding her as did Jared and we were both sooo upset.



We used a bassinet in our room for first 2-3 months at foot of our bed as there is no room on side for a co-sleeper in our bedroom and that worked out well for us. Now we start her in her crib and when she wakes she comes in with us so it doesnt have to be an all or none issues either. For us this works out well as it getting her used to her crib and sleeping in there, it gives us some alone parent time <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> and my DH is still in belief that we are doing somethign 'bad' by co-sleeping (even though he secretly likes it)and he doesnt get good sleep so this is a good compromise.</end quote></div>


Yup, good ole SB! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

Mu hubby was against cosleeping at first too - they were very "traditional" in the way his son (my step-son) was rasied as an infant - but now he is adapted and likes it well enough, though when she is particularly squirmy he can get annoyed. She falls asleep in a crib now and then I bring her into bed when she wakes in the night . I was afraid once she got mobile she'd fall out when she woke and we needed a little alone bed time too <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">
 
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wanderlost

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>mom2lillian</b></i>

Wanderlost-SOUTH BEND?<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif" border="0">!!! No Way, we live in Three Rivers and DH's family is all in IN so we are down that way alot.



My hospital had us PETRIFIED of co-sleeping. THey had pamphlets and signs on the wall forbidding it and warning of immenent death. I fell asleep holding her as did Jared and we were both sooo upset.



We used a bassinet in our room for first 2-3 months at foot of our bed as there is no room on side for a co-sleeper in our bedroom and that worked out well for us. Now we start her in her crib and when she wakes she comes in with us so it doesnt have to be an all or none issues either. For us this works out well as it getting her used to her crib and sleeping in there, it gives us some alone parent time <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> and my DH is still in belief that we are doing somethign 'bad' by co-sleeping (even though he secretly likes it)and he doesnt get good sleep so this is a good compromise.</end quote>


Yup, good ole SB! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

Mu hubby was against cosleeping at first too - they were very "traditional" in the way his son (my step-son) was rasied as an infant - but now he is adapted and likes it well enough, though when she is particularly squirmy he can get annoyed. She falls asleep in a crib now and then I bring her into bed when she wakes in the night . I was afraid once she got mobile she'd fall out when she woke and we needed a little alone bed time too <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">
 
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wanderlost

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>mom2lillian</b></i>

Wanderlost-SOUTH BEND?<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif" border="0">!!! No Way, we live in Three Rivers and DH's family is all in IN so we are down that way alot.



My hospital had us PETRIFIED of co-sleeping. THey had pamphlets and signs on the wall forbidding it and warning of immenent death. I fell asleep holding her as did Jared and we were both sooo upset.



We used a bassinet in our room for first 2-3 months at foot of our bed as there is no room on side for a co-sleeper in our bedroom and that worked out well for us. Now we start her in her crib and when she wakes she comes in with us so it doesnt have to be an all or none issues either. For us this works out well as it getting her used to her crib and sleeping in there, it gives us some alone parent time <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> and my DH is still in belief that we are doing somethign 'bad' by co-sleeping (even though he secretly likes it)and he doesnt get good sleep so this is a good compromise.</end quote>


Yup, good ole SB! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

Mu hubby was against cosleeping at first too - they were very "traditional" in the way his son (my step-son) was rasied as an infant - but now he is adapted and likes it well enough, though when she is particularly squirmy he can get annoyed. She falls asleep in a crib now and then I bring her into bed when she wakes in the night . I was afraid once she got mobile she'd fall out when she woke and we needed a little alone bed time too <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">
 
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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>wanderlost</b></i>
I tink it's because I live in South Bend where James McKenna - the mother-baby sleep lab cosleeping guru does his research at Notre Dame. DD is now 10 month and still sleeps with us most the night. I don't think she'll be leaving our bed anytime soon!
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I LOVE all the research James McKenna has done. I've read a lot of it. I was already convinced that cosleeping wasn't bad or dangerous but his research now has me convinced it was the right thing all along. Gotta love Katheryn Dettwyler's research too. If I could I would volunteer for McKenna's mother infant sleep lab.

As for the homebirth, Logan's birth wasn't bad or traumatizing but looking back I see so many little things that could have been better and I really feel the only way I am going to see a change is if I have a homebirth. My mother will have a cow though so that is my only hurdle. DH is on board with anything. And my MIL gave birth at a birth center and then had a homebirth. Unfortunately we don't have any birth center's here or Logan would have been born at one. I wasn't confident enough to have a homebirth the first time around though I wish I had.
 
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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>wanderlost</b></i>
I tink it's because I live in South Bend where James McKenna - the mother-baby sleep lab cosleeping guru does his research at Notre Dame. DD is now 10 month and still sleeps with us most the night. I don't think she'll be leaving our bed anytime soon!
</end quote></div>

I LOVE all the research James McKenna has done. I've read a lot of it. I was already convinced that cosleeping wasn't bad or dangerous but his research now has me convinced it was the right thing all along. Gotta love Katheryn Dettwyler's research too. If I could I would volunteer for McKenna's mother infant sleep lab.

As for the homebirth, Logan's birth wasn't bad or traumatizing but looking back I see so many little things that could have been better and I really feel the only way I am going to see a change is if I have a homebirth. My mother will have a cow though so that is my only hurdle. DH is on board with anything. And my MIL gave birth at a birth center and then had a homebirth. Unfortunately we don't have any birth center's here or Logan would have been born at one. I wasn't confident enough to have a homebirth the first time around though I wish I had.
 
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Keepercjr

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>wanderlost</b></i>
I tink it's because I live in South Bend where James McKenna - the mother-baby sleep lab cosleeping guru does his research at Notre Dame. DD is now 10 month and still sleeps with us most the night. I don't think she'll be leaving our bed anytime soon!
</end quote></div>

I LOVE all the research James McKenna has done. I've read a lot of it. I was already convinced that cosleeping wasn't bad or dangerous but his research now has me convinced it was the right thing all along. Gotta love Katheryn Dettwyler's research too. If I could I would volunteer for McKenna's mother infant sleep lab.

As for the homebirth, Logan's birth wasn't bad or traumatizing but looking back I see so many little things that could have been better and I really feel the only way I am going to see a change is if I have a homebirth. My mother will have a cow though so that is my only hurdle. DH is on board with anything. And my MIL gave birth at a birth center and then had a homebirth. Unfortunately we don't have any birth center's here or Logan would have been born at one. I wasn't confident enough to have a homebirth the first time around though I wish I had.
 
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Keepercjr

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>wanderlost</b></i>
I tink it's because I live in South Bend where James McKenna - the mother-baby sleep lab cosleeping guru does his research at Notre Dame. DD is now 10 month and still sleeps with us most the night. I don't think she'll be leaving our bed anytime soon!
</end quote>

I LOVE all the research James McKenna has done. I've read a lot of it. I was already convinced that cosleeping wasn't bad or dangerous but his research now has me convinced it was the right thing all along. Gotta love Katheryn Dettwyler's research too. If I could I would volunteer for McKenna's mother infant sleep lab.

As for the homebirth, Logan's birth wasn't bad or traumatizing but looking back I see so many little things that could have been better and I really feel the only way I am going to see a change is if I have a homebirth. My mother will have a cow though so that is my only hurdle. DH is on board with anything. And my MIL gave birth at a birth center and then had a homebirth. Unfortunately we don't have any birth center's here or Logan would have been born at one. I wasn't confident enough to have a homebirth the first time around though I wish I had.
 
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Keepercjr

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>wanderlost</b></i>
I tink it's because I live in South Bend where James McKenna - the mother-baby sleep lab cosleeping guru does his research at Notre Dame. DD is now 10 month and still sleeps with us most the night. I don't think she'll be leaving our bed anytime soon!
</end quote>

I LOVE all the research James McKenna has done. I've read a lot of it. I was already convinced that cosleeping wasn't bad or dangerous but his research now has me convinced it was the right thing all along. Gotta love Katheryn Dettwyler's research too. If I could I would volunteer for McKenna's mother infant sleep lab.

As for the homebirth, Logan's birth wasn't bad or traumatizing but looking back I see so many little things that could have been better and I really feel the only way I am going to see a change is if I have a homebirth. My mother will have a cow though so that is my only hurdle. DH is on board with anything. And my MIL gave birth at a birth center and then had a homebirth. Unfortunately we don't have any birth center's here or Logan would have been born at one. I wasn't confident enough to have a homebirth the first time around though I wish I had.
 
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Forgot to add - Logan spends all night in our bed - he's never slept in his crib and I wish we had never bought it. Getting rid of it is on my to do list. Even if he slept in it we wouldn't get any alone time because he doesn't go to sleep till around 10:30 and DH is usually asleep before him. But Logan doesn't get up till after 9 so I get to sleep in if I need to. Our alone time happens during naps when DH is home and in the evenings if Logan goes to visit the grandparents around the corner. Ideally Logan would go to sleep at 9 or 9:30 but its just SO hard to get him on that schedule - all it takes is 1 night up late to mess it up. Parenting a toddler isn't always easy <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

I fully expect to cosleep with 2 when I have the next baby. Though I will probably set up a bed on the floor for Logan if he wants a place to go. I'll probably also give him a bed in his room (I'm thinking something cool like a car/firetruck/train). But honestly I don't see him moving out and I'm not going to force it. I like having him in bed so its no biggie to me. I also have irrational fears of someone breaking into the house and I like knowing he's right next to me so I can grab him and hide or get out.
 
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Forgot to add - Logan spends all night in our bed - he's never slept in his crib and I wish we had never bought it. Getting rid of it is on my to do list. Even if he slept in it we wouldn't get any alone time because he doesn't go to sleep till around 10:30 and DH is usually asleep before him. But Logan doesn't get up till after 9 so I get to sleep in if I need to. Our alone time happens during naps when DH is home and in the evenings if Logan goes to visit the grandparents around the corner. Ideally Logan would go to sleep at 9 or 9:30 but its just SO hard to get him on that schedule - all it takes is 1 night up late to mess it up. Parenting a toddler isn't always easy <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

I fully expect to cosleep with 2 when I have the next baby. Though I will probably set up a bed on the floor for Logan if he wants a place to go. I'll probably also give him a bed in his room (I'm thinking something cool like a car/firetruck/train). But honestly I don't see him moving out and I'm not going to force it. I like having him in bed so its no biggie to me. I also have irrational fears of someone breaking into the house and I like knowing he's right next to me so I can grab him and hide or get out.
 
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