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Chaggie

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I'm not going to say you're wrong, but from personal experience I
have not seen that.  I have experienced just the opposite,
like I said my doctor has practically forced me to switch meds and
put me new ones.  He actually had my old doctor call me to
convince me to take tobi and .pulmozyme.  Maybe some doctors
practice that, but I know my Dr doesn't.
 
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NoExcuses

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>Chaggie</b></i>

I'm not going to say you're wrong, but from personal experience I
have not seen that.  I have experienced just the opposite,
like I said my doctor has practically forced me to switch meds and
put me new ones.  He actually had my old doctor call me to
convince me to take tobi and .pulmozyme.  Maybe some doctors
practice that, but I know my Dr doesn't.</end quote></div>

studies show that TOBI and pulmozyme keep you out of the hospital.

Your Kaiser doc gets paid tens of thousands of dollars in incentives to keep patients out of the hospital ( he looses lots of money if he has an admits).

So this makes perfect sense with the Kaiser & HMO philosophy.
 
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Chaggie

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>amy.</end quote></div> studies show that TOBI and
pulmozyme keep you out of the hospital. Your Kaiser doc gets paid
tens of thousands of dollars in incentives to keep patients out of
the hospital ( he looses lots of money if he has an admits). So
this makes perfect sense with the Kaiser & HMO
philosophy.</end quote></div><br>
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Isn't that what our Doctors are supposed to do, keep us out of the
Hospital.
 
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NoExcuses

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nope - my doc is aggressive with antibiotic treatment. he tries to get me in at least once or twice a year to catch infections early and prevent loss of lung function.

let's say a doc is on the line with admitting you to the hospital for IV's. Your lung function has deteriorated slightly, but the doc isn't sure if this is the start of an infection. CFF encourages early intervention with antibiotics to prevent loss of lung function and permanent lung damage. If your doc gets slapped on the wrist for admitting a patient, your doc might wait until you're really sick to admit you where he would otherwise admit you right off the bat.

so to answer your question, no, they're not supposed to keep us out of the hospital. they're supposed to help us stay as healthy as possible, which can include frequent hospital visits.

i speak with 9 docs a day that are primarily HMO (over 45 different docs a week)- and I am friends with the Kaiser rep in my area. i know what goes on and how decisions are made - it's pretty public knowledge how this game is played.
 
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Chaggie

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Admittedly I have been lucky with my hospitalizations, 1
hospitalization 14 years ago and 2 home cleanouts since.  So I
may be a little naive in that area, but I still haven't seen
anything but the concern and help from my doctor at Kaiser.
 
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NoExcuses

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not all practice what? kaiser is kaiser wherever you go. all get slapped on the wrist for admitting patients. and if a doc is costing kaiser too much money (too many hospital admits, surgeries and expensive meds) they'll get moved out. it has nothing to do with a doctor practicing anything. these are the ways of Kaiser....
 
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browser

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Sorry i didn't mean to start such a hot topic.  I really just
wanted to hear from people about the doctors at the Kaiser CF
clinic on what kind of care they receive.  That is what really
matters to me at this point.  <br>
<br>
I already know how screwed up healthcare in this country is ~
ultimately everyones motives in this industry are financial ~ not
just Kaiser.  <br>
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I'd still be interested in hearing about good/bad experiences with
the Kaiser team in Panorama City.<br>
<br>
Chaggie ~ I was wondering what drugs you are on, and what is your
age and PFT's, & general health.  I will completely
understand if you do not want reveal this info.  If you are
okay with giving me the info, but don't want to post it for general
viewing, you can private message me (again, only if you feel
comfortable).<br>
<br>
 
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Chaggie

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I have not had any bad experiences with the team so far, since they
can't make appointments very far out they always call me when it's
time for a visit, the nurses are nice and I can get in touch my
doctor when ever I have a question.<br>
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I'm 34 I take ultrase mt 18 zithromax pulmozyme, tobi, glipizide,
advaire, and Albuterol before hockey games.<br>
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PFT's are pretty good 90, 65, 35, but that is up 10% since I
started playing again and those results were a month after my first
game and haven't gotten new ones in 6 months.
 
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